Understandable you feel that way. Makes me laugh even more when there's people on here that accept horrible football from United because Mourinho hasn't been given any more than £400 million to spend. It could be a lot worse. At least your man tries to entertain you lot.
Spurs 2018/19
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Understandable you feel that way. Makes me laugh even more when there's people on here that accept horrible football from United because Mourinho hasn't been given any more than £400 million to spend. It could be a lot worse. At least your man tries to entertain you lot.
Pochettino has done brilliantly. He's not perfect and sometimes gets it wrong, but he's doing a fantastic job under difficult circumstances. Far as I'm concerned he's a world class manager and if he doesn't win something with us, he will go somewhere where the board gives him the backing he deserves and will do it there.
They do need the money - they desperately need the money.
Once again can we reserve judgement and put away the razor blades until 5pm tomorrow. Meltdowns before this help nobody.
Meltdown? That's just the truth. It doesn't matter what we do tomorrow, we've still left it horribly late and slept the entire window when we needed a bit of stability. It's not a disaster, we'll properly scrape top four due to Pochettino, but it is a complete let down.
Do you really see us doing anything more than signing Grealish on deadline day? We've had no solid links to anybody else.
No it's your opinion - it's nothing more than that. I have no idea if we will sign anybody.
Yeah it's an opinion that leaving absolutely everything to the last day is not a great idea.
That part I can agree with. That statement is a fact.
'Levy always puts his own ego ahead of what is best for the team' - that stuff is just pure opinion and is, in my own opinion, utter bollocks.
You don't think Levy pride himself on his reputation as a tough negotiator/sees getting a bargain as a sense of personal pride? Fair enough.
I certainly do not think that Levy puts himself or his reputation before the club that he loves and has supported all his life. On what evidence do you possibly have to suggest such a thing?
That's fair. We obviously just have very different opinions on the man.
Not sure why Levy is suddenly the bad guy here. He's not perfect, but he's done a lot of good things with Spurs and under him we have improved a lot.
The fact he continually sabotages the team with his negotiating tactics?
Which I have acknowledged. The debate is over whether he's a good negotiator in the transfer market, which I have never thought he is. His tactics in this arena are hugely frustrating and not beneficial at all to Pochettino.
The word you choose 'sabotage' is a loaded one and suggests you believe - again - that Levy is somehow purposely working against the best interests of the club. That is utter bollocks again.
Sorry to call you out on this but it's quite irritating - I get you are frustrated - I am too but some of the stuff you are coming out with just is not right.
Purposely? No. I don't think he purposely wants to sabotage the club, I think he puts finances ahead of the team. He's more concerned with ensuring he gets a bargain than getting the player early so that it benefits Pochettino. This isn't an outlandish opinion, Levy is a businessman first and foremost, but you're perfectly entitled to think it's nonsense.
Levy is nothing more than a suit. Him 'supporting' the club will be far down on his list of priorities, I imagine. He's concerned with making Tottenham profitable long term, not with taking risks by investing money in to the playing squad and attempting to take us to the next level. I think he is absolutely content with us scraping top four and is currently hitching a ride off Pochettino's fantastic work at the club, which saved him after we faced disaster post-AVB. He's done very important work off the pitch but he's not the kind of chairman who leads to trophies. He will keep our net spend low, our income high, and we'll be relatively steady under him.
Sorry to keep making the same point but all of this is just your opinion rather than fact - you are entitled to any opinion you want but don't expect it to not be challenged. You clearly think a certain way about him and that's fine - I just do not think it is based on reality at all.
Did I say otherwise? Of course it's my opinion. I base it on the way he handles transfers, and you're perfectly entitled to feel otherwise.
It's a forum.
It's all about opinions.
It's all about opinions.
The reality is that you've won no trophies and are presently no spending according to your stature. I'd say to argue otherwise is more speculative.
Precisely. I'm not going to state 'IMO' every sentence I make, it's just how I personally view the man. Others are perfectly entitled to feel differently.
We're fortunate Levy lucked out on Pochettino, we were due for a stretch in the wilderness with AVB/Sherwood. Emergence of Kane has also been huge, otherwise we'd probably be a top six club rather than top four, and then perhaps more would be questioning Levy. Biggest frustration now is we have Kane, we have Pochettino, but those trophies are still elusive because we need that extra push to compete. Levy won't provide it though.
You do realise that Levy doesn't control the purse strings at the club don't you. If more money was made available by the owner then perhaps we could spend much more than we are. Clearly the stadium build is having an impact on finances. It's expected though I'd still hope for some signings.
I reckon they won't make top 4 this year. The stadium will be a boost initially but you rarely see the same hunger/drive for a whole season if the squad hasn't been freshened up.
The stadium should not have had an impact like this on our finances. We've been low spending for years and have recently been CL regulars, as well as having a scandalously low wage bill. What would the club have done if we'd not been so successful the past few seasons and not had CL football? Sold off all our assets?
We have money to spend, we aren't broke. If the stadium comes at the cost of a deterioriated team I'd rather we didn't bother.
Why blame Levy then? He isn't the person holding back the cash, it's the owner. Levy is working with what he is allocated.
Also the stadium is a long term benefit to the club. It's worth sacrificing a bit now for long term wealth imo. You honestly would rather not bother with the new stadium to sign a few more players now? Incredibly short sighted.
Levy is in charge of negotiations. I highly doubt the owner has told him he can only offer 3 mill and Onomah for Grealish, to be honest. It's also not the owner asking him every season to wait till deadline day to do business.
Anyway, this argument is going round in circles. We'll see if he has anything up his sleeve tomorrow. Predictions? I'm going with Grealish coming in for 30m with a few hours to go.
Grealish I think is dead in the water. Honestly think it's more likely we sign nobody at this stage as disappointing as that prospect is.
That would be absolutely fecking shocking. Reckon we'll keep Toby? I'm not sure if Grealish is dead, some reports say he 'hasn't given up' and that we're still trying to make a bid. No players at all would be such a disappointment for everybody and would leave us in a really dodgy position.
It's possible, all depends on what kind of season Chelsea have imo.
Toby will leave I'm fairly certain though could be outside of England after the deadline.
If we sell Toby and sign nobody I'll be fuming. What a slap in the face that would be for the fans.
Let's see what happens. Fecked if I know.
Being a Spurs fan on deadline day is too stressful
Remember Joao Moutinho..?
I've been a Spurs fan for around 35 years so im used to it. I try not to get too worked up about it anymore. What will be will be. We have a good team that will do well regardless and I'd still support them if they got relegated 3 times in a row.
Reading between the lines I believe we've been given extra 6 months to get our finances in check by FL, seems that's what happens when new owners come in although not 100%.
End of the day we need to desperately get out of this division and keeping Grealish obviously increases chances of top 2 finish as he was class act last season.
I'm under no illusions that Spurs are massively tempting but maybe he's looked at someone like Zaha? Went to Man. United, barely played, went back to Palace and probably now (5 years after his move to Man. United) he's probably ready to move to top 4 club.
Benteke would be another example of guy who left us and within 18 months was fighting premier league relegation battles again.
Guess he could still leave tomorrow although his brother has been on twitter saying the reports he's disgusted with us rejecting bids are complete rubbish.
Strange but didn't some Spurs fan say last season that they will have plenty of money this summer? This seems like a copy of Arsenal window after moving to Emirates
What has surprised is reading the Evening Standard yesterday and seems Spurs want to get Moussa Dembele off the wage bill (talk of China move). Also talk of moving Wanyama on although he's injured atm.
Would seem a bit thin in central midfield. Guess the plan is to promote Winks but he too has missed all pre season injured. Interested what the long term plan is there as Dier was woeful for England in the euros playing that position and gets used at CB various points in the season.
Haven't seen Spurs linked to any top CMs anyway this window.
Would seem a bit thin in central midfield. Guess the plan is to promote Winks but he too has missed all pre season injured. Interested what the long term plan is there as Dier was woeful for England in the euros playing that position and gets used at CB various points in the season.
Haven't seen Spurs linked to any top CMs anyway this window.
Feel the criticism of Levy a bit strange. Understandably Spurs fans are frustrated but Levy can't spend money he doesn't have and is probably trying to do the best with what he has. There isn't a unlimited budget to spend on players or even a budget that can compete with the likes of the others in the top 6 due to the stadium. It looks like they have went down the route of ensuring their star players are happy with their contract and are signed for the long term as that can easily get out of control with players wanting more money mid season or towards the end of their contracts when other clubs are sniffing around, offering more money etc. Also, if you agree to the one wage hike for one players, it's likely the other 4-5 key players are going to be asking for the same or similar so I think Spurs have worked quite well in that manner as they have tied Alli, Eriksen, Kane, Son, Lloris to long terms deals and they seem content at the club.
I would have thought they would have bought in 1-2 players by now, they should have wrapped up Grealish early doors. You can probably blame Levy for that one, he was trying to get him on the cheap as he knew Villa were in a bit of a mess but then before they could sign him, Villa sorted themselves out and no longer need to sell on the cheap.
I would have thought they would have bought in 1-2 players by now, they should have wrapped up Grealish early doors. You can probably blame Levy for that one, he was trying to get him on the cheap as he knew Villa were in a bit of a mess but then before they could sign him, Villa sorted themselves out and no longer need to sell on the cheap.