Jose has been willing to sell his players to rivals for the right price, but with the ongoing situation between United and Spurs (read my post above) I feel any deal between the two clubs will have to heavily favour the seller rather than the buyer. Levy would be looking at spending a small fortune in order to secure Martials services.
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Jose has been willing to sell his players to rivals for the right price, but with the ongoing situation between United and Spurs (read my post above) I feel any deal between the two clubs will have to heavily favour the seller rather than the buyer. Levy would be looking at spending a small fortune in order to secure Martials services.
That far back? We must be at 'cold war' status by now.
Chuck another £30 on the initial estimation @InLevyITrust
It would be very strange for Martial to come back to training and set off for pre-season if he was leaving for Spurs. I believe the pre-season tour starts next week and the players set off on Sunday. There is conclusive evidence that Martial is staying.
Like I said I don't expect it to happen, but the fact he is training and going on tour doesn't guarantee that.
That isn't conclusive evidence of anything, players do that all the time. The transfer window has a month to run and if anything is going to happen with Martial to Spurs it will be a late deal, that is my guess. It is in United's interests to not sell him up until the very last minute, to see if a more desirable club (in United's view) come up with the money. My opinion is United sanctioning Martial to Spurs would be the last resort, but ultimately United will sell, and Spurs have shown they are willing to pay the money.
I would be amazed if Martial is at United next season just because the player isn't getting enough games at all and his career has completely stalled.
So... This is awkward...
Grealish would've been on the bench (at best) for Spurs this season, no great loss.
I didn’t know Hazard, Courtois, KDB and Lukaku played for Spurs
Raises the question what they're doing though...? All very quiet this summer, Grealish the only player with any substance to the rumours.
They've got Vincent Janssen coming back. Nothing else is needed.
Doing what most have been doing, waiting for the WC to end.
Who is lined up to replace Courtois and Hazard?
Just like Ross Barkley and Jason Sancho, he only wants to play for Pochettino.
This is the spurs thread. Keep it on topic.
They should buy Ruben Loftus-Cheek
No chance Chelsea would even pick up the phone to us.
Spurs have so many players in the WC that their squad is immediately paper thin for the start of next season as their players rest up and regain match fitness.
Another bad start to hobble their season is almost guaranteed IMO.
Another bad start to hobble their season is almost guaranteed IMO.
Not awkward. How would I know who we are signing? I'm expecting us to sign a few players in next few weeks but I dunno who
I would agree, we could scrape a decent first 11, but the bench would be kids.
Id agree with this if we didnt want a player in return from Spurs. If the Alderweireld rumours are true and he is the man Jose wants that puts things in a different perspective.
Lamela signs a new contract (following on from Kane and Son doing the same), running until the summer of 2022.
Good news, not least because I assume that Spurs would not have offered the new contract unless they were confident about his long-term fitness … and having him back and fit for a full season (hopefully) will be a big boost to our squad depth.
Good news, not least because I assume that Spurs would not have offered the new contract unless they were confident about his long-term fitness … and having him back and fit for a full season (hopefully) will be a big boost to our squad depth.
Just Eriksen and Verts to announce now and I will be happy.
Glad we seem to be getting players tied down.
Been a really disappointing summer, though. After promises of spending, calls to bring in new players early so they could get in a good pre-season etc, we have done absolutely nothing. The only team below us in the top 4 have massively improved by bringing in Allison, Fabinho, Keita and Shaqiri. They were only 2 points behind us last year.
City stomped all over the league last season and even they have made more moves to improve ffs. United fans are annoyed at their summer yet have brought in Dalot and Fred, and again they were better than us last season. Teams outside the top 4 (Chelsea, Arsenal) are also spending money and we weren't too far ahead of the former.
Our only solid link has been to Jack Grealish, all summer. It's an absolute joke, we have clear deficiencies in the squad and so far have done nothing to fix them. Is it to be last minute panic buys (Sissoko) all over again when Levy had had an entire window? I don't believe for a second Pocchetino is happy.
I get it, it's hard to buy players in a World Cup summer. Other clubs have managed it though, clubs with less to worry about than us. There's no excuses for not bringing in a single player thus far. We look set to completely waste a strong core by failing to add to it and being content with semi-final knockouts, top 4 and 'competing' in the CL.
On current course I can see us missing out on top four, which would be a disaster. Likes of Kane and Eriksen would surely consider moving on, and fairly so. The club seems content as long as we're making the CL yet this uncompetitive attitude will lead us to dropping out to other sides more eager to improve. We are resting on our laurels and unless we quickly change a very disappointing window, look set for another season of the same old dissapointments.
Most annoying thing is this squad is so close to competing, just needs a couple of key improvements and it'll be ready. So frustrating.
Been a really disappointing summer, though. After promises of spending, calls to bring in new players early so they could get in a good pre-season etc, we have done absolutely nothing. The only team below us in the top 4 have massively improved by bringing in Allison, Fabinho, Keita and Shaqiri. They were only 2 points behind us last year.
City stomped all over the league last season and even they have made more moves to improve ffs. United fans are annoyed at their summer yet have brought in Dalot and Fred, and again they were better than us last season. Teams outside the top 4 (Chelsea, Arsenal) are also spending money and we weren't too far ahead of the former.
Our only solid link has been to Jack Grealish, all summer. It's an absolute joke, we have clear deficiencies in the squad and so far have done nothing to fix them. Is it to be last minute panic buys (Sissoko) all over again when Levy had had an entire window? I don't believe for a second Pocchetino is happy.
I get it, it's hard to buy players in a World Cup summer. Other clubs have managed it though, clubs with less to worry about than us. There's no excuses for not bringing in a single player thus far. We look set to completely waste a strong core by failing to add to it and being content with semi-final knockouts, top 4 and 'competing' in the CL.
On current course I can see us missing out on top four, which would be a disaster. Likes of Kane and Eriksen would surely consider moving on, and fairly so. The club seems content as long as we're making the CL yet this uncompetitive attitude will lead us to dropping out to other sides more eager to improve. We are resting on our laurels and unless we quickly change a very disappointing window, look set for another season of the same old dissapointments.
Most annoying thing is this squad is so close to competing, just needs a couple of key improvements and it'll be ready. So frustrating.
Forgot to mention that with so many players reaching the latter stages of the WC we're likely to have a slow start, especially with so many away games. The likes of Kane also look like they need a rest.
So once again we will probably we playing catch up, and with so many strong sides in the league that could be disastrous. We badly needed new blood with a solid pre-season in place, but it didn't happen.
So once again we will probably we playing catch up, and with so many strong sides in the league that could be disastrous. We badly needed new blood with a solid pre-season in place, but it didn't happen.
No top 4 poll?
That’s been fun to look back on for the last couple years.
That’s been fun to look back on for the last couple years.
Had a look at The Fighting Cock some days ago. They are getting restless.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Zaha went there and tore it up under Potch. Still think he would of been popular player here but Moyes f**ked him over.
Search Daniel Levy on twitter for a bit of a laugh. The man is not popular.
I think you're being too pessimistic.
For starters, Lucas Moura is effectively "new blood" since he only joined in January and so didn't have a pre-season under Poch. And I think we'll sign Grealish shortly, along with one or two other new players.
I also think that Aurier will likely improve, having had one season in the Prem now under his belt and a full pre-season this time around (he joined very late in the window last summer, on August 31st, as did Juan Foyth).
We'll also have Lamela for hopefully the whole season (he didn't play until late November last time, due to injury). Ditto Harry Winks, who also missed many games last season due to injury.
Then there's the possibility that some of our younger players - Carter-Vickers, Josh Onomah, Walker-Peters and so on - will shine and play a greater part this time around.
And finally, we'll be in our own stadium for home matches, rather than Wembley.
Balanced against all this, of course, is the possibility that we'll lose Alderweireld and maybe Dembele. But all in all I'm OK with how things are currently.
Many fans are obsessed with the transfer window and treat it at some kind of race to see who can sign the most new players and spend the most money. But as Spurs have shown before, there's a lot to be said for continuity and relative squad stability.
Is there any chance Janssen is a squad player at Spurs this season? He's not the greatest but another body in case of a couple of injuries is no terrible thing.
Lucas Moura looked decent, but what are we expecting here? He's a Brazilian Aaron Lennon. Grealish is nice but he will only add depth and potential and is far from a sure thing, you can't rely on these sort of players to come in and make a difference consistently. Sure, you might strike gold with an Alli but it won't work every time. Who are the one or two other players? Unless they're players ready to come in and make a real difference it's not enough. We were promised proper reinforcements, Poch was promised proper money to spend. Where is it? Going on Grealish?
Aurier isn't very good. At best he'll be a decent backup for Trippier, who will clearly be our first choice right back. Again, him slightly improving isn't going to have a big impact on our season. He was disastrous at times, got bored of watching him take a terrible touch then lunge in to make up for it. Massive improvement is needed if he's to be an asset rather than a liability.
You're basically counting on everyone coming back and immediately being useful. Winks will need time and is still in need of a lot of time to develop, he's not ready to come in and start. Lamela is Lamela, he'll run around a lot but mostly be frustrating. Decent squad players but again, they aren't going to win us anything, sorry but Winks coming back is not going to be like a new signing. We'll also have new injuries coming in and having an impact, you're looking at a perfect start to the season where all our injured players return and no more injuries pop up.
This is just blind hope. You could say the same about every other top club. Of course a youngster could come in and make a difference, probably not though .. same with United, Arsenal and Liverpool, who all bring in the odd player regularly (Rashford, TAA, Iwobi etc) from the youth team, but it doesn't happen often. Again, you can't count on your youth players to make the difference, it would be incredibly risky to rely on them.
What difference will this make, really? Our Wembley record ended up being pretty good. This is just adjustment to another stadium which may take time, it's not immediately going to feel like home. It's not going to be WHL straight away, sure we'll get a boost at first but it's not a magical wonder super stadium which will make our team better than it is.
We lose Alderweireld and Dembele and only make the changes you suggested and we're absolutely fecked. We badly need to replace the latter with a proper central midfielder (spend some money, Levy) and obviously would need to sign a decent replacement for the former. We also need more competition in the forward positions but seem to have wasted our time sniffing after Martial. I'd even suggest we need to sign a decent backup for Lloris, Vorm isn't cutting it anymore and Lloris was incredibly dodgy at times last year, he needs a bit of competition. Clearly too comfortable, at the moment.
Overall, I think you're looking at the situation with rose tinted glasses. Most of the stuff you said would be true for other clubs (players returning, youth potential, new signings bedded in etc) - look at United with Sanchez, Liverpool with Van Djik etc. Except they're also fixing their issues by spending money on genuine quality, whereas we are sitting still and doing absolutely nothing. It's not good enough after what was promised and I guarantee Pochettino is furious with the current situation.
Think some of their players are going to have a WC hangover this time. I think they'll be swapping with Chelsea in the top four this time round.
no please no
Just purchase a really realistic Kane statue and put it on the pitch. Even not moving it's likely to scare opposition defenders more than Janssen.
I feel the same way. With the away games at the start of the season and so many players slow to return/a few badly needing rest, we're almost certain to have a slow start. The likes of Winks & Lamela being available will not change this.
We needed to be very busy and bring in some proper reinforcements ready for this very situation, but instead have sat on our hands the entire window (probably Levy trying to knock 5m off the Grealish price) and now face having a skeleton crew of a squad at the start and no fresh blood to make up for it. Even if we're very busy at the end of the window, it'll probably be a Levy special deadline day deal, so they won't be ready immediately.
Also how many times are our fans going to stress 'squad continuity' in order to justify not signing anybody. I think this squad is pretty comfortable right now having looked exactly the same the last couple of seasons, somehow doubt signing 2-3 players to challenge is going to upset that.
There's a difference between going on a splurge and destroying harmony (A.C Milan, us after Bale, Liverpool after Suarez) and just doing absolutely nothing to try to improve. City aren't resting on their laurels after smashing the 100+ point barrier, you need to keep trying to improve and keep the squad fresh, some of our players clearly need competition.
There's a difference between going on a splurge and destroying harmony (A.C Milan, us after Bale, Liverpool after Suarez) and just doing absolutely nothing to try to improve. City aren't resting on their laurels after smashing the 100+ point barrier, you need to keep trying to improve and keep the squad fresh, some of our players clearly need competition.
Who is saying otherwise? No-one that I can see.