So let's talk about Eddie Howe....

Imagine thinking Eddie Howe should be Manchester United Manager
 
It just proves how difficult it is to be a consistently good manager. Someone who was once touted as one of the best English managers in the game is now staring relegation in the face.
 
It just proves how difficult it is to be a consistently good manager. Someone who was once touted as one of the best English managers in the game is now staring relegation in the face.


It just proves how overrated he is . The amount if people on here who wanted him to be United manager was ridiculous.
 
It just proves how difficult it is to be a consistently good manager. Someone who was once touted as one of the best English managers in the game is now staring relegation in the face.
It just proves how overrated he is . The amount if people on here who wanted him to be United manager was ridiculous.
All it proves is that staying in the prem with a small club with low budget is really hard no matter how good a manager you are. And playing expansive football in a relegation dogfight is even harder. Not saying he's brilliant. Just saying hes being unfairly judged at the minute
 
All it proves is that staying in the prem with a small club with low budget is really hard no matter how good a manager you are. And playing expansive football in a relegation dogfight is even harder. Not saying he's brilliant. Just saying hes being unfairly judged at the minute

There are some very poor teams round him at the moment. He has had money to strengthen them since their first season and he has blown it on rubbish. It’s obviously not easy, but I think his transfer record since getting up has been woeful.

Danjuma 16 million
Billing 15 million
Lerma 25 million
Solanke 19 million
Ibe 16 million
Rico 13 million
Mepham 12 million

That’s a pretty woeful list.
 
It's a tired point at this stage but 5 seasons in the PL is plenty of time to cycle the likes of Cook, Francis, Daniels and Smith out of the team and they're still mainstays. Their backline aside from Aké has never been up to standard and it's catching up to them now getting walloped by the likes of Newcastle.
 
To keep Bournemouth for 5 seasons is/was a fantastic achievement and Howe has definitely a future in the Premier League but

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There are some very poor teams round him at the moment. He has had money to strengthen them since their first season and he has blown it on rubbish. It’s obviously not easy, but I think his transfer record since getting up has been woeful.

Danjuma 16 million
Billing 15 million
Lerma 25 million
Solanke 19 million
Ibe 16 million
Rico 13 million
Mepham 12 million

That’s a pretty woeful list.
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It's a tired point at this stage but 5 seasons in the PL is plenty of time to cycle the likes of Cook, Francis, Daniels and Smith out of the team and they're still mainstays. Their backline aside from Aké has never been up to standard and it's catching up to them now getting walloped by the likes of Newcastle.
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He's a really good manager for the resources and the club that Bournemouth is. He probably should have moved on when his stock was higher, but if Bournemouth decide to sack him, then he should be given a chance somewhere else like a Burnley, Palace if/when Roy leaves or even Newcastle. But he'll need time if he's to implement what he has shown at his Bournemouth best all while getting results to keep a team midtable.

When you're overachieving like Bournemouth did, you have to improve your squad every year and cannot make big transfer mistakes such as Solanke and Ibe, Begovic, Lerma. Fraser and Brooks being either hurt or out of form didn't help, but that's the margins they have when the budget is so small.
 
It just proves how overrated he is . The amount if people on here who wanted him to be United manager was ridiculous.

Klopp once got Mainz relegated. Howe is a good manager, and did well thus far. There’s only so long you can keep floating with such limited resources like Bournemouth do. His transfers haven’t been the best, but then top managers have transfers that flop as well. He just has less margin for error, and that is a sword he has to fall on, unfortunately, but that doesn’t make him a bad manager. I still think he has some very good qualities and could see him at a big club in the future.
 
He's a really good manager for the resources and the club that Bournemouth is. He probably should have moved on when his stock was higher, but if Bournemouth decide to sack him, then he should be given a chance somewhere else like a Burnley, Palace if/when Roy leaves or even Newcastle. But he'll need time if he's to implement what he has shown at his Bournemouth best all while getting results to keep a team midtable.

When you're overachieving like Bournemouth did, you have to improve your squad every year and cannot make big transfer mistakes such as Solanke and Ibe, Begovic, Lerma. Fraser and Brooks being either hurt or out of form didn't help, but that's the margins they have when the budget is so small.
Burnley and Newcastle will never happen mate. Howe left Burnley originally because his wife gave him an ultimatum that he move back to the South coast or the marriage is over. The furthest north that Eddie will move in my opinion is London.
 
Don't know why he is getting criticised. He still took Bournemouth from league 2 to the Premier League for five seasons, which is a brilliant achievement.

They were always going to get relegated eventually. Sometimes it just starts to get stale. He has managed Bournemouth for a long time now; it is probably time he moved on to another Premier League club.
 
It just proves how overrated he is . The amount if people on here who wanted him to be United manager was ridiculous.
Unfair comment. He was without Ryan Fraser and Callum Wilson this evening. David Brooks has been out for a year and has yet to reach peak level of performance. Not too long ago Ole was a laughing stock at Cardiff. But with the right players and the right set up, he's suddenly looking like a top manager in the making.
 
There are some very poor teams round him at the moment. He has had money to strengthen them since their first season and he has blown it on rubbish. It’s obviously not easy, but I think his transfer record since getting up has been woeful.

Danjuma 16 million
Billing 15 million
Lerma 25 million
Solanke 19 million
Ibe 16 million
Rico 13 million
Mepham 12 million

That’s a pretty woeful list.
Never even heard of Danjuma.
 
Burnley and Newcastle will never happen mate. Howe left Burnley originally because his wife gave him an ultimatum that he move back to the South coast or the marriage is over. The furthest north that Eddie will move in my opinion is London.

Didn't know that...but it would just be Palace at this point in terms of PL clubs then.
 
It's a tired point at this stage but 5 seasons in the PL is plenty of time to cycle the likes of Cook, Francis, Daniels and Smith out of the team and they're still mainstays. Their backline aside from Aké has never been up to standard and it's catching up to them now getting walloped by the likes of Newcastle.

Makes no sense to spend so much on Solanke and Ibe and not bolster their defence with some quality.
 
Unfair comment. He was without Ryan Fraser and Callum Wilson this evening. David Brooks has been out for a year and has yet to reach peak level of performance. Not too long ago Ole was a laughing stock at Cardiff. But with the right players and the right set up, he's suddenly looking like a top manager in the making.

10 years from now (if Ole is hopefully a success) you'll see people retroactively argue that his prior experience at Molde and Cardiff qualified him to be United manager.
 
In some small mitigation for Bournemouth and Howe, they seem to have every good player they have injured for at least half of every season they have been in the PL. From their very first season back - they spent £10m a piece on Max Gradel and Tyrone Mings and both got cruciates in the first month. Callum Wilson, their main striker, got a cruciate too. Ever since then, Wilson, Brooks, King, Cook (Lewis, not the shite one) have all seemed to miss about 3 months of football every season.
 
Some harsh comments...yes the talk of Arsenal/United was sensationalised and premature...

But he's done pretty well with limited resources...yes I agree the transfers of late haven't worked but it's always going to be an uphill task with Bournemouth.

They've over achieved, hugely...so I suppose that becomes expectation. They try to play decent football, but you need to be able to adapt and have a scrap down there.
 
Theres more chance of people actually giving Sean Dyche credit on here than ever admitting they were wrong on Howe
 
Probably the same people who had faith in Ole when no one else did. Stubborn bastards!


You may as well just say every manager who gets a team relegated is as good as Alex Ferguson if thats going to be the mantra .

You judge managers by themselves not bend backwards to try and compare them to someone else who once lost a match

Howe was always overrated , he failed at Burnley his transfer record is horrible at Bournemouth . He has no plan b in his game yet people were and still continually make excuses for him and insist he could manage a top club
 
You may as well just say every manager who gets a team relegated is as good as Alex Ferguson if thats going to be the mantra .

You judge managers by themselves not bend backwards to try and compare them to someone else who once lost a match

Howe was always overrated , he failed at Burnley his transfer record is horrible at Bournemouth . He has no plan b in his game yet people were and still continually make excuses for him and insist he could manage a top club

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What a bizarre comment. He left due to personal reasons, rejoined Bournemouth and won promotion with them to the Championship and then to the PL.
Do you have a personal hate for him or something...?
 
Some harsh comments...yes the talk of Arsenal/United was sensationalised and premature...

But he's done pretty well with limited resources...yes I agree the transfers of late haven't worked but it's always going to be an uphill task with Bournemouth.

They've over achieved, hugely...so I suppose that becomes expectation. They try to play decent football, but you need to be able to adapt and have a scrap down there.

They've done that for a good while now. Teams that adapt and scrap have been relegated as well.
 
Some harsh comments...yes the talk of Arsenal/United was sensationalised and premature...

But he's done pretty well with limited resources...yes I agree the transfers of late haven't worked but it's always going to be an uphill task with Bournemouth.

They've over achieved, hugely...so I suppose that becomes expectation. They try to play decent football, but you need to be able to adapt and have a scrap down there.

spending over 30 million quid on ibe and solanke wouldnt constitute limited resources to me to be honest, more spunking money up the wall.

they had some Championship players with fighting Spirit and a little bit of quality which kept them up for a but but in all honesty have been circling the pan for a few seasons now
 
I've long defended him but last few months have been a disaster.

I still think he has plenty to offer as coach but clear players don't listen/believe in him anymore as their performances in winnable games are terrible.

Can really see Bournemouth struggling in championship next season with or without Howe. Beyond likes of WIlson, King, Brooks and Ake who'll all likely be picked up by other premier league clubs there really isn't a lot there. They won't be challenging for top 6 relying on the core of Cook, Daniels, Francis, Gosling and Surman who all seemed to have been playing for them for 50 years.