Anyone else thinks that Cavani will outscore him?
So, can Neymar 'do a Maradona' and lead PSG to glory?
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Wouldn't surprise me as finishing isn't Neymar strong suit. At the same token I think his output will go up especially if they used him similar to how the NT uses him.
If Neymar had been playing for PSG rather than Barça last year they'd have been in the semis.
From that point you're three games away from being champions. They've got a great chance.
From that point you're three games away from being champions. They've got a great chance.
There's a WC next year and Tite's Brazil are looking very good.
He'll still only be 29/30 when Qatar comes around too. Messi and Cristiano will be long gone by then.
Same Napoli team that lost 2 out of their 3 ties in the European Cup? Not much glory there.
Money has already led PSG to national glory.
Money has already led PSG to national glory.
Yeah, I don't either. If either of those two were bursting onto the scene now god only knows what they would be worth.
I think it's much more likely Neymar has just sent his career into insignificance.
Doesn't everyone expect Cavani to outscore him?
Do you think by trying to be so literal you have missed the point by a distance?
Do you think I would ask whether Neymar can lead PSG to a Ligue Un title as a direct equivalency of what Maradona did in the hardest league that has ever existed?
Seriously. Some times..
Neymar is not tall enough for big Jose
PSG will not win the CL this season. It will be the usual suspects: Real, Barca and Bayern with City as the dark horses if Pep's signings gel
By Barcelona
Theres no reason why he can't, I think most of us expect PSG to sleepwalk their way to the title especially if Mbappe leaves Monaco (and even if he doesn't) but its obvious the CL is PSGs main goal. That being said you need luck on your side to win the CL in addition to all the world class talent you may have playing for you.
Look at us in the mid to late 90s, all those eliminations and near misses led to the Nou Camp in 99 and look at Chelsea in 2012. Even the most die hard Chelsea fan can't say that that side was better than Jose's in 2005-2006 and even the team we beat in 2008 and should have played in 2009. But they had the right attitude and experience and a fair bit of fortune and good luck on their side. Not something you can buy.
PSG once in my memory have beaten a side that you wouldn't have expected them to (Chelsea a few years ago), and after the 1st leg vs Barcelona last season they made a balls of it. I don't think they have been through the wringer enough in Europe yet to give them that mindset and that second leg defeat could be very damaging in the minds of some of the players.
This.
Yeah it's more like Vardy at Leicester
PSG to me are a club that falls into the trap of buying big name players without much thought as to what sort of player they actually need to improve their team. Neymar will do great but until they start actively trying to build a real team they will struggle.
Should hope not as players like Befatimbi Gomis scored for a few goals last season, he was awful at Swansea.
I'm not going to pretend that I know much about the quality or relative cost of that Napoli side Maradona helped, lead to glory. But I would assume, they weren't already stacked with world class players, and already one of the biggest, most expensive sides in Europe at the time? And that's the reason Maradona's feat/contribution was so impressive.
So by that same token, how would the 2 situations be comparable? Wouldn't Neymar leading them to CL glory be sort of, the expectation, considering the financial outlay, and relatively, how close PSG already is to being at the top of Europe?
So by that same token, how would the 2 situations be comparable? Wouldn't Neymar leading them to CL glory be sort of, the expectation, considering the financial outlay, and relatively, how close PSG already is to being at the top of Europe?
Pretty sure he will. Neymar's scoring last season wasn't at all impressive. I'm sure it will go up now that he is the absolute super star of the team but I Cavani still seems to remain the focus point of their attack.
Don't know enough about the other teams, but Bayern Munich wasn't a team of decent players with one Uber-player, they had a couple of top players in Meier, Müller or Breitner. Not a Maradona/Napoli-situation.
I don't think Neymar is in the same class as Messi or Ronaldo.
Their goals are what separate them from anyone else, most importantly. They probably create more than everyone else and have been more consistent over a longer period than anyone else but the bottom line has to be the goals.
Neymar needs to score 40-50 EVERY season to have the sort of impact you're talking about and I don't think he will.
Their goals are what separate them from anyone else, most importantly. They probably create more than everyone else and have been more consistent over a longer period than anyone else but the bottom line has to be the goals.
Neymar needs to score 40-50 EVERY season to have the sort of impact you're talking about and I don't think he will.
He has to win 10 champions league to repay his fee
By the way, he doesn't need to accomplish anything to validate this move. That's a ridiculous notion.
PSG are maybe Trapp and Motta upgrades away from having a great team. I don't think they've built poorly, but they need a better manager to bring it together.
This thread.PSG, the underdog story.
Neymar for 200 and Walker for 50. Someone should tell these Arabs that you don't put these players out to stud when there careers are over. Neymar will be Neymar so it all comes down to what each of us would call a flop. He is now playing in what is basically a feeder league where PSG are the only big player on the block. Monaco are as predictable as Arsenal, they get to a point with a team containing 5/6 amazing players, win a league and then gut the team and start again from the middle of the table. There are teams that will run PSG close and if the stars are aligned for them they may win but they will be no threat to superior financial dominance. I wonder what Platini thinks now.
I do get the feeling that the owners consider this a signing for Qutar rather than a signing for PSG. This guy will have his face on fecking everything these oil rich owners want to sell or promote which could very well put his football as a secondary occupation. It may also start a bit of a fire sale over a couple of transfer windows leaving just Neymar and a team full of Memphis Depays. I still don't think they will win the CL but again it's not always the best team that wins. You need a lot of luck and a rock solid defense to win in Europe so anything is possible. Good luck to them I say and I look forward to Phil Jones putting him in his pocket in the quarter finals.
I do get the feeling that the owners consider this a signing for Qutar rather than a signing for PSG. This guy will have his face on fecking everything these oil rich owners want to sell or promote which could very well put his football as a secondary occupation. It may also start a bit of a fire sale over a couple of transfer windows leaving just Neymar and a team full of Memphis Depays. I still don't think they will win the CL but again it's not always the best team that wins. You need a lot of luck and a rock solid defense to win in Europe so anything is possible. Good luck to them I say and I look forward to Phil Jones putting him in his pocket in the quarter finals.
That league wasn't the hardest ever existed. Hellas Verona won the league won the season 2 years prior, coincidentally when it was much harder to affect the referees but that rule got changed right back after they won it.
Napoli was a nothing club trophy wise before Maradona joined. With him there they still managed nothing in the European Cup. You're asking if Neymar will revolutinize PSG in that competition. They don't need that. They've already been in contention for a while now with the money spent and have been a top 4 favorite for the past 3 seasons. They were knocked out by Chelsea, City and Barcelona twice which isn't unreasonable in a cup competitions. Twice on away goals.
You also mentioned other players such as Eusebio. Well, Benfica won the EC before he started playing and he wasn't an all out player when they won it the 2nd time. In his prime their record wasn't as good.
I don't see any club being as dominant as Real was with Di Stefano. Neymar is not going to make PSG better than Barcelona were.
In short, PSG might win the CL but they've always been in contention and this doesn't change anything.
Obviously he's going to run rings all over Ligue 1 but as far as it being a one team league goes...PSG aren't the current champions in fairness.
Comparing these players to Neymar is ridiculous. In their time they were the best there was, which is more than you can say for the third best striker at Barcelona.
Not the same at all......
My comparison with Maradona was about PSG and how Neymar will be a demigod for their fans, he won't get that anywhere else outside of Turkey, Brazil and Napoli, when the ultras aren't banned the Parc des Princes, is an incredibly loud stadium.