should we try and win the fa and worthington cup this year

Originally posted by rajiiiii:
<strong>The Arse can call themselves kings of england for all I care. United have to be kings of Europe.</strong><hr></blockquote>

NEVER FORGET WE PLAY IN THE BEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD

if we win nothing AGAIN this year and next year how long before you change your record and say lets win the league

:D :D :D :D :D [/QB]
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Never. Have you forgotten that United players died to play in Europe?

I accept that we need to do well in the league to play in Europe. We used to have to win the league, but since we don't anymore, who cares?

Twat. Go back to feckin Birmingham and support Villa. I can't believe you don't know bout Munich.
 
Originally posted by spinoza:
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Never. Have you forgotten that United players died to play in Europe?

some of the greatest players in the world at the time died playing for a club that wanted to win EVERTHING! don't forget that!!

who could forget 96 fans that died and there only crime was to want to watch a game of football
doe's liverpool now have to win the prem every year for ever for the 96 or just remember them at the right time
doe's every one in afgan have to die because of the twin towers
do all germans have to die for the war
do all frenchmen have to die for invading us
what about the spainish for trying

get of your high horse you idiot


I accept that we need to do well in the league to play in Europe. We used to have to win the league, but since we don't anymore, who cares?


what a idiot you are have you been supporting man yoo for 5 years then eh!

some of us remember winning the prem for the first time and thinking we are back at last
how fickle you are to now say i don't care if arse win it
theres a lot of people who do care

Twat. Go back to feckin Birmingham how can i go back to birmingham when i'm there

and support Villa. who are they?

I can't believe you don't know bout Munich.
i can't believe you don't now about shite

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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I think the FA cup is almost worth going for, but the Worthless cup is the new youth cup. Only Liverpoo try and win it.
 
Originally posted by FlyingPasty:
<strong>I think the FA cup is almost worth going for, but the Worthless cup is the new youth cup. Only Liverpoo try and win it.</strong><hr></blockquote>
It should be for League clubs only.
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Originally posted by rajiiiii:
<strong>The Arse can call themselves kings of england for all I care. United have to be kings of Europe.</strong><hr></blockquote>

NEVER FORGET WE PLAY IN THE BEST LEAGUE IN THE WORLD

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The best league in the world is probably the Spanish league at the moment.
 
Originally posted by rajiiiii:
<strong>they may be classed as micky mouse cups compared to CL but if we can't keep it tight at the back we won't win it this year
to me any silverware is better than none!!

what do you think


ps don't reply and say we are killing everone in the our group because none of them are any good <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

The Cup : yes, of course
The Worthington Cup : no, who cares about this useless competition . Although if our B team wins it, it will be a good thing.
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Originally posted by rajiiiii:
<strong>they may be classed as micky mouse cups compared to CL but if we can't keep it tight at the back we won't win it this year
to me any silverware is better than none!!

what do you think


ps don't reply and say we are killing everone in the our group because none of them are any good <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

Whats wrong with our defence? I think they have been v good this year. They have improved exponentially on last year, so I certainly wouldn't put them as a reason for us not winning anything this year??
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Originally posted by rajiiiii:
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Originally posted by spinoza:
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Never. Have you forgotten that United players died to play in Europe?

some of the greatest players in the world at the time died playing for a club that wanted to win EVERTHING! don't forget that!!

who could forget 96 fans that died and there only crime was to want to watch a game of football
doe's liverpool now have to win the prem every year for ever for the 96 or just remember them at the right time
doe's every one in afgan have to die because of the twin towers
do all germans have to die for the war
do all frenchmen have to die for invading us
what about the spainish for trying

get of your high horse you idiot


I accept that we need to do well in the league to play in Europe. We used to have to win the league, but since we don't anymore, who cares?


what a idiot you are have you been supporting man yoo for 5 years then eh!

some of us remember winning the prem for the first time and thinking we are back at last
how fickle you are to now say i don't care if arse win it
theres a lot of people who do care

Twat. Go back to feckin Birmingham how can i go back to birmingham when i'm there

and support Villa. who are they?

I can't believe you don't know bout Munich.
i can't believe you don't now about shite

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: </strong><hr></blockquote>

<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> Winding you up am I?

Oh yes I remember winning the league in 93. I've probably been a United fan longer than you claim to be. I also remember winning the European Cup in 99 and that was by far the sweeter.

United's tradition has always been to aim for EUropean glory. It has been ever since the Babes, if you remember.

Now you have to ask yourself, do you really want United to be the best (which considering you're a Birmingham City fan you probably don't), or are you just a parochial cnut like those who ran the FA in the 50s?

Btw, the Man yoo is a dead giveaway.
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rajjjiiiiiiiii you feck nut, you talk so much shite, obviously a dirty claret in disgusie and by the way do you even go to the games or are you another plastic one that started supporting the team when we started winning. You just talk gob shite.
 
Neil Thomson wrote:

Keano made it clear in his book that the players don't care about the FA Cup, and I personally think that this isn't good, because defeats or victories in the FA Cup give confidence, or dent morale. I really think Giggs' goal in '99 was the springboard for the trophies that followed. You can't turn form on and off, and you get into bad habits if you don't take each game as seriously as each other.<hr></blockquote>

I couldn't agree more. Plus, I also feel, as a long term fan, a debt of gratitude to the FA Cup. Back in the bad old days, it was the only trophy that sustained us in the barren years, and it may also have been the trophy that saved SAF's job as United manager in 1989/1990. Furthermore, the FA Cup was, once upon a long ago, the only competition to win :D and yes, in the modern day, other competitions may have taken over in importance, but the FA Cup deserves eternal respect for its tradition and history as the inaugural football competition.

However, with regard to the Worthington Cup, again I agree with you Neil Thomson.

It should be for League clubs only. /QUOTE]
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Originally posted by rajiiiii:
<strong>they may be classed as micky mouse cups compared to CL but if we can't keep it tight at the back we won't win it this year
to me any silverware is better than none!!

what do you think


ps don't reply and say we are killing everone in the our group because none of them are any good <img src="graemlins/keano.gif" border="0" alt="[Keano]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

You mancs may as well try and win one of them because you have no chance of the CL or PL .
:D
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Yes, good question, given that Liverpool are really down the dumper and have been for the best part of over a decade.

Compare the Liverpool of Keegan, Toshack et al with the likes of today`s team who can dine out on a victory against the mighty Alaves in the poor man`s European Cup. Sad - for Liverpool supporters.

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I am actually replying to michaelowensmum`s question - So what went wrong?

Poor bastard - as a Liverpool fan he must be asking himself that everyday.

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Like it or not, the Worthy and FA cups are not what they used to be. We can do without any potential suspensions and certainly, any more f****ing injuries! We should play the younger players in the early rounds of both and in the later stages, should we progress, introduce the regular players. If we are in serious contention for CL and/or PL - as we should be - we continue with the younger players. We are not liverpool and desperate for the West Lancs Darts league trophy!
 
Originally posted by Nh1878:
<strong>Neil Thomson wrote:



I couldn't agree more. Plus, I also feel, as a long term fan, a debt of gratitude to the FA Cup. Back in the bad old days, it was the only trophy that sustained us in the barren years, and it may also have been the trophy that saved SAF's job as United manager in 1989/1990. Furthermore, the FA Cup was, once upon a long ago, the only competition to win :D and yes, in the modern day, other competitions may have taken over in importance, but the FA Cup deserves eternal respect for its tradition and history as the inaugural football competition.

However, with regard to the Worthington Cup, again I agree with you Neil Thomson.

It should be for League clubs only. /QUOTE]</strong><hr></blockquote>

It seems we still need one or two more years to remove the complacency and arrogance of some of our players and fans. They have all forgotten the joy to win "just" the FA Cup.
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