Should we consider selling Pogba?
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I know this is hard for you to understand, so I'll make it as clear as possible.
All I wanted was somone to remind me what Jose said about Pogba..... any wider debate about the signing and Jose's management is not what i am talking about
Simply: what did Jose say about Pogba
I hope this is not true. But knowing Ed and the Glazers ...
The next manager would have to try his best to fit Pogba into his team, again. And we, the caf, would be here discussing where would be his best position and why he hasn't delivered for the next 5 years. Brilliant.
We just give contracts out to everybody under the guise of “protecting their market value” when in reality we just price them out of an transfer. Ridiculous strategy from the bean counters.
As for Pogba’s best position, from what I’ve seen this season it’s easily on the bench, coming on for last few mins to see a game out by holding the ball up in the corner. He’s quite good at that.
What does he mean by a new contract “by months”? Like a rolling contract?
I thought it was rhetorical question. Now, this makes your question became irrelevant to the original post you replied.
Ive always been a pogba fan, and always felt we are a better team when he plays and he plays well...over the past 12 months my feelings are changing, and following his latest comments away on international duty again...well he can go for me.
He looks unfit and disinterested and both he and his agent want him to move on. I would have a problem with this if he was playing well but he really isnt and hasnt for some time...
If we can get 50million for him i'd snap their hands off.
He looks unfit and disinterested and both he and his agent want him to move on. I would have a problem with this if he was playing well but he really isnt and hasnt for some time...
If we can get 50million for him i'd snap their hands off.
Are you broken?
Anyone who wants to be sold should get sold in my eyes. And if he doesnt want to extend we most definately should as fast as possible.
£400,000 a week, just fecking watch.
You asked question about Mourinho on Pogba to poster who made a point about manager's authority makes no sense.
Must be quite the 'breath of fresh air' getting schooled by third tier Finnish vodka drinkers.
If he undermines the club and wants to go, so be it.
I agree it's getting really hard to find a rationale for keeping him. It seems increasingly clear he isn't going to do well either as a holding midfielder, or as a box-to-box player. And the No 10 role belongs to Bruno. That seems to require us to play 4-1-4-1 in order to utilise him well, but that simply doesn't appear feasible without a holding midfielder who can offer better protection than we have now, and/or a central defence less in need of protection.
While I agree it's a questionable approach to consistently re-sign players even if you plan to move them, I think that's probably a more justified approach with Pogba than with, say, Phil Jones. If he moves, it's unlikely it would be to a club with a much more restricted wage structure.
While I agree it's a questionable approach to consistently re-sign players even if you plan to move them, I think that's probably a more justified approach with Pogba than with, say, Phil Jones. If he moves, it's unlikely it would be to a club with a much more restricted wage structure.
He will be our Ozil
Give him a 5 year deal then send him out on loan to Juventus for a year, then watch him explode there and then sell him to PSG year later for 100 million.
I've no doubt Pogba will put in some world class performances again here soon, but he can't be trusted to be a first XI player anymore.
I've no doubt Pogba will put in some world class performances again here soon, but he can't be trusted to be a first XI player anymore.
In the context of discussing our current manager's authority (in relation to Pogba), it seems relevant that the previous manager felt he had no authority over this player (so why could Ole?)
Again, I simple asked if anyone could clarify what Jose said as I couldn't remember all the detail.
Now my only hope is he'd refuse the contract and leave on a free. Imo he seems to can't wait to leave us. This won't make Ed look good before the Glazers as well. That cnut surely deserves that. Do that Pogba and I'll never utter a single word against you anymore. Please. Please.
I agree indeed. He lost that role, he lost the organizer of midfield role (number 8) and thank God he was never considered as a 6 either
He was
Here: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/tactics-20-21-switching-to-4-3-3.457260/. I started this thread and it and didn’t go well. Life proved that trusting Pogba is a mistake in every sense. 27 y.o., the most expensive transfer in history of the club, nearly 5 years at the club...and we are still discussing his potential. Crap.
This is the same club that gave Moyes a 6 year contract and extended Phil Jones' contract last year until mid-2023...
Ole has dropped Pogba plenty of times already this season means Pogba is touchable and the manager has authority to drop him. Don't worry about what Jose said.
Some people have this weird belief that Jose got fired because he dared to bench Pogba. Like all the bad results had little to do with it.
If we can get some consistency with results, whether Pogba is on the bench, Ole will be safe
I think he means we've been planning to give him a new contract for months.
Just came across this. Reading the comments first time in a very long while I'd say United fans had managed to generally agree on something. Don't know about Twitter though.
At least he isn't angry and confused.
I think the issue is to do a deal with Real or Juve a player will likely have to come the other way and that can be complicated, PSG are the only team I can see paying for him outright.
The biggest difference between Ole and Jose, which even the board and most ardent of Ole haters will recognise, is that ultimately Ole knows this is his one opportunity at managing a big club and he is going to live or die with his success at Utd. So what's best for Utd is what's best for Ole.
With Jose, we knew he was more worried about his own brand and what was best for Utd was not necessarily best for Jose, so there was this element of mistrust in his treatment of our most talented players like Pogba, Martial, Rashford etc. He wanted players who would win him a trophy immediately because even he openly admitted he didn't see himself staying long term at a club. So everyone was mistrustful of him wanting to sell our talented players for seasoned campaigners who might win him something in the short term but our long term future may be compromised, because Jose wasn't going to stick around that long.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...ys-playing-with-france-is-breath-of-fresh-air
This is becoming tedious.. every time he's with the national squad.. he just can't help himself with all the snide comments.
This is becoming tedious.. every time he's with the national squad.. he just can't help himself with all the snide comments.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...ys-playing-with-france-is-breath-of-fresh-air
This is becoming tedious.. every time he's with the national squad.. he just can't help himself with all the snide comments.
Stay on the bench, let players like Bruno and Donny play. Tell Pogba and his agent Manutd are happy to let go of him in January, £70m the fee, go and find a suitor. Until then, train and act professionally.
Yes, PSG is the only club that might pay for him. Problem is his salary. Are they willing to pay 300,000+. I don't think so.
Two real options are:
1. He will leave in summer of 2022 for free.
2. Ed is total idiot and will give him 4+ year contract and instantly create our own version of Ozil (talented, potential, huge wages, generational talent, blah blah.. - just no room in starting 11)
Not really bothered about this saga anymore. We have a decent balance in the side even when he's not playing with Fred, McT, Bruno as the midfielders. The Ronaldo saga stressed me out a lot because he was such a good player for us and I couldn't imagine the thought of him leaving but Pogba? If he stays on reasonable wages, fine by me, I think he's a good player. If he leaves, that's fine as well.
Bruno is inconsistent himself though.
I understand Paul should be doing better but united for the last 8 years has been something else.
Did you want De Gea to stay on reasonable wages?
I wonder what percentage of the forum would actually like him to be sold at this point?
based on what exactly ? he dont produce anything on a constant basis?
Think most would be absolutely fine with it as it just doesn't work. A new contract would get much more criticism imo.
The problem is that realistically no one will offer us big money anymore and will lowball us. I would look at some swap deal if we can't get enough money.
I would agree with that. Many of our fans conviniently forget that Pogba contributed into delaying the inevitable for Jose. A home game vs Newcastle with them leading 0-2 and the team ended it with 3-2 with big performances from Pogba and Martial, 2 players he disliked when everything was set up for them to phone it in and see him sacked
I'm bored by the whole Pogba story. Anyone watching him over the last few years would have a hard time making a case for him as 'world-class' when he plays in our shirt. He has moments, for sure, but they are too few.. I remember Ole saying something about building a team around him but I think we have to face the facts that for all the potential, Paul has not really set the world alight since he came back and we can't expect this to change suddenly. Would some other manager get more out of him? Who knows. I wonder just what he'd fetch on the transfer market though and I can understand the club thinking he has some value on the commercial side so I suspect we'll be having this discussion for a few more seasons.