Should we consider selling Pogba?

Rightnr said:
Big clubs with big ambitions do not sell their best players.

This is without considering the fact the American leeches will probably just pocket the money ala Ronaldo and Lukaku and not invest in another 3-4 players.
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I was going to say something along these lines.

I had my reservations over some of his performances when he initially came, but I really like the player now and can see loads of potential with him and Bruno + 1 in midfield. Selling him is simply not an option, in my opinion. The better question should be who should we be bringing in to the club to help players like Pogba and Martial continue to flourish. We do not need to start by removing quality from the squad, we need to be adding to it.
 
Superunknown said:
I was going to say something along these lines.

I had my reservations over some of his performances when he initially came, but I really like the player now and can see loads of potential with him and Bruno + 1 in midfield. Selling him is simply not an option, in my opinion. The better question should be who should we be bringing in to the club to help players like Pogba and Martial continue to flourish. We do not need to start by removing quality from the squad, we need to be adding to it.
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Good post.
 
So selling Pogba is the answer Who replaces him Matty/ Sean Longstaff ?
 
Fans are obsessed with selling players. If another player wins his place then you consider selling him and only then.
 
He is one of our world class player we should try to add more than off loading them.

Playing next to aged Matic or SMT/Fred with less awareness of what its to be a DM doesnt help Paul's situation.

Some one next to a good DM can really unlock Pogba's magic and we do need him I think.
 
Arguably our best player yesterday then a thread like this happens :wenger:

As others have said, we should be looking to improve our teams quality, not decrease it! I honestly believe he plays deep because other than Matic (not quite the same legs anymore) we have no one who could shield the defence behind Pogba and Bruno.

Not drawing comparisons but Klopp stuck to a 4231 til Fabinho came in didn't he? Tactics mainly come down to the personnel at your disposal.
 
He turned 27 this year, so it's a key time basically. How much could we get for him, who could we replace him with? If lets say we could sell for £80m and replace him with Thiago and Sancho, we would be much better off, even though Thiago is 2 years older. If we aren't reinvesting properly and just making it a problem position again, or doing a 1 for 1 replacement for the same money, then obviously no.
 
Smores said:
Fans are obsessed with selling players. If another player wins his place then you consider selling him and only then.
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It's probably because there's a lot of talk of us having to sell to buy or that covid has impacted us financially. Or it's just the irrational dislike for Pogba for some
 
If he wants to stay, we should definitely keep him. You don't sell your best players; it's that simple. If he wants the move, that's another matter.
 
Dec9003 said:
I think his performances can get a bit wildly overrated on here, I’m not sure I’d sell him though. There’s a lot Pogba can improve on and I think he can impose himself more in the midfield, but he gives us a lot in terms of his ability to move the ball, and when he does fight to get it back he can be solid.
I hope that much like Martial, as time goes on he works at himself to be a more complete player in the position he’s being asked to play.
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Think the main difference is that Martial was always a #9 so him performing in that role isn't all that surprising, whilst Pogba was never a player who's defensively sound enough to be a part of the MF duo.
 
bosnian_red said:
He turned 27 this year, so it's a key time basically. How much could we get for him, who could we replace him with? If lets say we could sell for £80m and replace him with Thiago and Sancho, we would be much better off, even though Thiago is 2 years older. If we aren't reinvesting properly and just making it a problem position again, or doing a 1 for 1 replacement for the same money, then obviously no.
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If we could sell Pogba for anywhere from 60m up and get Thiago for half of that, it would be great business.
 
LVGSdive said:
If we could sell Pogba for anywhere from 60m up and get Thiago for half of that, it would be great business.
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That would be complete nonsense. Why fans have this agenda against Pogba is beyond me.
 
romufc said:
That would be complete nonsense. Why fans have this agenda against Pogba is beyond me.
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Unrealistic expectations i think. He can transition to a GK position yet same people would still be judging his performances through the assists/goals prism.
 
Fracture90 said:
Unrealistic expectations i think. He can transition to a GK position yet same people would still be judging his performances through the assists/goals prism.
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I do not get what Pogba done wrong yesterday, his ability on the ball and in transition is frightening. The composure to get the ball control and release Rashford yesterday is something that no other player is capable of with his weaker left.

His ability to switch play from deep, his ability to link up play when attacking with Bruno, Rashford Martial, Greenwood again is brilliant. He is conducting the orchestra from deep so well that no one is realising what he is doing.
 
romufc said:
I do not get what Pogba done wrong yesterday, his ability on the ball and in transition is frightening. The composure to get the ball control and release Rashford yesterday is something that no other player is capable of with his weaker left.

His ability to switch play from deep, his ability to link up play when attacking with Bruno, Rashford Martial, Greenwood again is brilliant. He is conducting the orchestra from deep so well that no one is realising what he is doing.
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MOTM candidate imo yesterday.
 
romufc said:
I do not get what Pogba done wrong yesterday, his ability on the ball and in transition is frightening. The composure to get the ball control and release Rashford yesterday is something that no other player is capable of with his weaker left.

His ability to switch play from deep, his ability to link up play when attacking with Bruno, Rashford Martial, Greenwood again is brilliant. He is conducting the orchestra from deep so well that no one is realising what he is doing.
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when critiquing a players performance, you need to be balanced. Yes he did some good things, but he lost possession countless times as well in dangerous areas, as he has done in recent games as well. Like anything the truth is somewhere in the middle, he did okay, he didn't do as bad as some of his detractors are making out, but he also didn't do as great as some of his more fervent supporters would have you believe.In truth it's a game we should have won but didn't take our chances, if we had of, there probably wouldn't be in this inquest into Pogba's performance.
 
Fracture90 said:
MOTM candidate imo yesterday.
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Agreed, the midfield worked really well IMO considering Sevilla love to have the ball. We have seen numerous times our midfield being sliced open instead both goals came from full back assists instead.
 
Only if he wants to move and if we spend the profits wisely on improving the team as a whole. He's in his peak years and probably won't get close to winning the CL with us any time soon, so I can understand him pushing for a move.

But if he wants to stay, then feck that. We need him.
 
I am indifferent about selling him because I don't see anyone even offering close to what we bought him for.

I think people are vastly overrating his game yesterday, he did his typical blow hot and cold performance. While having some neat nice moments he would give the ball from over elaborate dribbles or from simple passes in the middle of the pitch. He wasn't anywhere close to amazing as some are putting it, his good outweighed his bad, so probably a 7 out of 10.
And even if you think he played well using that as a basis not to entertain the idea of selling him is bizarre, its the typical only judging someone off their last game mentality you often find on here.
 
We should only consider selling if he wants out or if a bid with a huge fee attached comes in. At that point we could reinvest in another class player, that might suit us better. Like Sancho.

If I could swap him with Sancho at this moment I probably would, but I don't think we should sell Pogba if we are to spread the money around, investing in more inferior players.

We should upgrade other parts of the team long before Pogba, but I think we can look to upgrade on Pogba as the star player and if he commands a high enough fee then Pogba out - Sancho in would be ok with me.
 
Strange thread, given that he was quite solid defensively yesterday. Most people didn't think he and Fred could play together as a pivot, but yesterday they were pretty solid against a good Sevilla side. We restricted them to very few chances and a huge part of that was down to our midfield.
 
pocco said:
For a long time I held out hope thinking that Pogba would have the intelligence to be able to play that deeper role effectively. That he'd learn how to better apply himself to defensive situations and work hard at that part of the game. However, there's a noticeable trend from teams to double up or even triple up on Wan Bissaka, and I think this is because they know that our right sided attacker will not come all the way back, and that Pogba won't help cover his side of the pitch.

We were once opposed to losing him, but Bruno has stolen his importance from a creative point of view in our midfield. In order to build a midfield that properly supplements Bruno, should we consider selling Pogba?
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No. Just no!

Bruno came from Sporting who was basically our current level in the Portuguese league. We aren’t going to be the Benfica of English football thinking we need to remove Pogba to get a midfielder that can cover AWB.

Just play the players in the right position.
 
Fracture90 said:
Think the main difference is that Martial was always a #9 so him performing in that role isn't all that surprising, whilst Pogba was never a player who's defensively sound enough to be a part of the MF duo.
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Maybe, but at his best he can be pretty solid defensively imo.
I think if we have him a season playing in a two (and got a quality partner for him) we’d see him add consistency to his game, even if he wouldn’t be scoring as often.
 
He seems keen on staying and playing with Bruno, so it would make sense to do just that. We should be building around our best players, not selling them.
 
pocco said:
For a long time I held out hope thinking that Pogba would have the intelligence to be able to play that deeper role effectively. That he'd learn how to better apply himself to defensive situations and work hard at that part of the game. However, there's a noticeable trend from teams to double up or even triple up on Wan Bissaka, and I think this is because they know that our right sided attacker will not come all the way back, and that Pogba won't help cover his side of the pitch.

We were once opposed to losing him, but Bruno has stolen his importance from a creative point of view in our midfield. In order to build a midfield that properly supplements Bruno, should we consider selling Pogba?
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Why does Fernandes not have the intelligence to help his midfield out or Lindelof have the intelligence to help cover Wan Bissaka? Why is the concentration on Paul especially after he was the best of an average bunch yet again yesterday.

Fernandes has stolen penalties and pitch space from Paul and Marus Rashford but nothing else. Also you supplement your best player and that is Paul so the question is how can he be played in his best role rather than playing deep to help a lesser player pad his stats.

Such an idiotic post that totally ignores the errors of others all in order to focus on Paul. You call yourself a united fan?

CG1010 said:
Obviously we should not sell Pogba, but we shouldn't give him a big raise. He isn't good enough to get 400-500k per week.
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Whatever De Gea is on he will get more, if he renews.

Volumiza said:
I think it helps when he’s not the star of the show and he can become less essential. It probably goes against what some want (him being the central focus of everything), but that seems to allow him to just get on with his game and I much prefer what we’re seeing now, good and steady no nonsense performances each week, some of his passing is awesome.
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Who is the star of the show?

Gary_Walsh_Nou_Camp_Hell said:
Too many fans have no clue about the nuances of the game and only understand players who leg it around all game and 'put a shift in'.

Typical mentality of many fans of english football. And why technically gift players often get criminally undervalued in english football.

There's a lot of subtly going on in Pogba's game and he's bloody brilliant.
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Very well put but at this point I am hoping he leaves so I can enjoy his play elsewhere.


Nou_Camp99 said:
Not really. Bruno's impact has been far greater than Pogba's at the club. Pogba still one of our better players I will concede but he's NOT our best player and he's NOT world class. World class players play more consistently than he does.
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Your agenda is clear at this point so it is futile to keep typing your topsy turvy tripe. Go and have your self a little lay down.
 
Clermontois said:
Who is the star of the show?
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Bruno has arrived, Martial has improved massively, Rashford has weighed in with goals, Fred has improved, Matic has rediscovered form this season. Pogba isn't having to carry all the expectation or be the main star any more, we have other stars able to contribute.
 
LVGSdive said:
If we could sell Pogba for anywhere from 60m up and get Thiago for half of that, it would be great business.
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Skåre Willoch said:
Only getting 60m for Pogba would be the opposite of great business.
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We'd be very lucky if we could sell him for £60m today, but I don't think we can sell him, unless for well lower than that figure.

Like it or not, we are stuck with Pogba, whether we want to sell him or not
Nobody is going to pay the sort of transfer fee that Utd or many of our fans think he's worth, nor pay the sort of wages and fees his agent will demand from a contract with a new club.
This was true before Covid-19 and it's more true now.

A player is only worth what a buying club is prepared to pay and I'd be surprised if any club would pay more than £50m and they certainly wouldn't stump up astronomical wages for a player who's now long past the earlier promise of his successful spell at Juve.

Even if Utd were prepared to offload him at a much lower value, the wage demands and various fees would put most clubs off.
At the present time, Utd's only option is to try and get the best out of him, which I don't think we're doing by playing him in that deep role, where his poor defensive commitment and abilities are exposing us badly at times.
 
JPRouve said:
But it has nothing to do with Pogba who doesn't need freedom. He has never been given freedom by the managers that had success with him, none of Deschamps, Conte or Allegri are that type of managers they give clear defensive instructions and create balanced defensive setups, also there isn't a single good team that plays 4231 with wide forwards because you can't balance it. So again you have a point but it's not about Pogba and again Pogba doesn't need freedom and he isn't an attacking midfielder or number 10.
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It was another poster that suggested he needed freedom, that's what I'm referencing when you quoted me. However, to some extent he does need freedom. At Juve he played in a wide role with people around him to do the leg work and generally control the game. For France, he played centrally, flanked by Kante and Matuidi. Certain allowances do need to be made to accomodate him. Call it freedom, call it a balanced midfield, whatever.
 
Clermontois said:
Your agenda is clear at this point so it is futile to keep typing your topsy turvy tripe. Go and have your self a little lay down.
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You're the only one with an agenda. Name me a single pundit across all the TV stations who says Paul Pogba has been a world class player in a United shirt. There isn't any because it's simply not true. He's a good footballer with bags of talent but has so many flaws and last night kind of summed him up is time at Utd perfectly. He was awful first half and played well second half. That's inconsistency personified.

Doesn't mean i want him to be sold but our fans need to get out of his backside. Bruno is a better player for me. He's had a much bigger impact on our team. Pogba has 1 goal and just 4 assists in 23 apps this season. How is that world class? It just isn't.
 
Pogba was awful in the first half last night? I've read it all now. :lol:

Rashford was 'awful' in the first half, everyone else was decent-good.

Edit: Brandon Williams was poor as well.
 
Very curious/strange timing of his thread when he was one of our best players yesterday...

Our forwards finish 1 or 2 of the chances he created in the 2nd half and the Caf isn't in complete meltdown today

We're also currently not in any position at all to be selling the talent we have at our disposal instead of building on it as our rivals strengthen
 
Clermontois said:
Why does Fernandes not have the intelligence to help his midfield out or Lindelof have the intelligence to help cover Wan Bissaka? Why is the concentration on Paul especially after he was the best of an average bunch yet again yesterday.

Fernandes has stolen penalties and pitch space from Paul and Marus Rashford but nothing else. Also you supplement your best player and that is Paul so the question is how can he be played in his best role rather than playing deep to help a lesser player pad his stats.

Such an idiotic post that totally ignores the errors of others all in order to focus on Paul. You call yourself a united fan?



Whatever De Gea is on he will get more, if he renews.


Who is the star of the show?


Very well put but at this point I am hoping he leaves so I can enjoy his play elsewhere.



Your agenda is clear at this point so it is futile to keep typing your topsy turvy tripe. Go and have your self a little lay down.
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What a terrible post. I am Pogba's fan, and I don't think he played particularly poorly yesterday, but its obvious that Pogba is playing in a deeper position compared to Fernandez and it is he who has the greater share of defensive duties. Nobody has 'stolen' penalties from anyone, Bruno is clearly the better penalty taker, why does Pogba have a god given right to take them. And he certainly not our best player.. which brings to the point about his salary:
At the moment De gea is the highest paid player of our team by far at £375,000, with Pogba second at £290,000. Players like Rashford and Martial are a bit lower and Bruno is at £150,000. Given his contribution in the team, at best he deserves a pay equal to Rashford and Martial and he certainly does not deserve a pay rise (De Gea himself is being massively overpaid given his performances).
 
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