Should we buy Callum McManaman?

I think people are being very harsh on him.

He only has half a season playing top flight football and if his wiki is correct 39 games in total playing first team football?

If that was Zaha on Saturday, everyone would be wanking themselves saying he could be one of the best player in world with more experience.

Couldn't have put it better.
 
I think people are being very harsh on him.

He only has half a season playing top flight football and if his wiki is correct 39 games in total playing first team football?

If that was Zaha on Saturday, everyone would be wanking themselves saying he could be one of the best player in world with more experience.

I don't see why people can't offer an opinion on him. That's the point of the thread, I don't see anybody saying anything too out there. Any criticism has been valid.
Nani for example lacked, and maybe still does lack, consistency. He got criticised for lack of end product, etc and rightly so. This happens with wingers, some solve the problem and maybe lose the flair and spontaneity they once had but they'll be more effective. Others never solve the problem and drift through their career having the odd good game, like Adam Johnson.
McManaman has a lot to prove before being considered good enough for Utd. As you said yourself he's only played 39 games, the hype around him is getting outta control.
Zaha on the other hand looks to be a level above McManaman. That may be virtue of playing more games, in that case why compare the two?
 
We seem to have the prospect of losing Nani and maybe Young...

Based on what might we sell Young? Because he isn't a current Caftard favourite?

I think Young is a very Moyes-type of player. He's a good age, pretty much coming into his peak, and has plenty of experience already. I am certain Moyes will want to give him the chance to regain his best form - of which we have seen glimpses of at United and for England, and which he showed regularly at Villa.
 
I like what I've seen of him but if we buy another winger I think it needs to be the kind that is ready to start, we already have a "maybe" player in young Zaha.
 
Think it's a bit early for him, I think with Zaha our hand was forced, much like with some other players over the years. Could be good to try and get first option on him. Tbf though having just signed Zaha for a hefty sum unless we could get him on the cheap I can't see us going for him. One of them alone would take time to bed in, trying to bring in 2 young wingers could be pretty tough.
 
Zaha is clearly more talented. We have no idea how he'll do at premier league level but hes far more technically sound than McManaman. That doesnt stop him being effective but its very unlikely he'll ever get to the level we clearly want to see from Zaha
 
McManaman looks like more of a forward than a winger to me. Doubt he'd fit into United's system, unless Moyes drastically changes our setup.
 
McManaman looks like more of a forward than a winger to me. Doubt he'd fit into United's system, unless Moyes drastically changes our setup.

We need more players with edge and desire to win in our team. Mcmanaman, Fellaini and we are all set. Too many nice guys in midfield. Don't forget that Sir Alex always looked for something beyond footballing ability. He looked for the never say die fighting spirit.
 
I predict this thread will be intensely populated after the match today.
 
Is he still at Wigan then?

English, right winger, Championship Club.

Done.
 
A right winger to go with the other four right wingers we've got? Calm yourself, rcoobc.
 
The championship is perfect for him at this time. It will gauge whether he is the one hit season wonder or if he can sustain it. Not only is he in one of the toughest domestic leagues but he will be up against European opposition too.
 
We will all be too busy spunking our load in the Adnan thread to care about this guy.

Incidently, any relation to Steve?
 
I don't!!


How come? He looked outstanding at the back end of last season. Him against City was one of the most impressive individual performances in the FA Cup final I've seen. Still a bit raw in terms of his decision-making but I don't think anyone else ripped the piss out of their defenders last season as much as he did then and it came off the back of some great performances. I didn't think he looked technically inferior to Zaha. He way well have been a flash in the pan but I don't see how anyone could suggest he didn't show a lot of promise.
 
McManaman looks like more of a forward than a winger to me. Doubt he'd fit into United's system, unless Moyes drastically changes our setup.

I agree with you, he's absolutely more of a forward than a winger. He reminds me quite a bit of Darren Huckerby. These sort of players need to have extreme technique and vision to justify a spot in a bigger team. A player like Ariel Ortega is just about on the verge of being that sort of luxury player.

Thing is that Mcmanaman also does a lot of hard work but his role is very demanding and I don't think he would score enough goals nor create enough chances. In Wigan you get applause if you try and fail, in a bigger club you would probably get a smack in the back of your head or taken off early by the manager.
 
I agree with you, he's absolutely more of a forward than a winger. He reminds me quite a bit of Darren Huckerby. These sort of players need to have extreme technique and vision to justify a spot in a bigger team. A player like Ariel Ortega is just about on the verge of being that sort of luxury player.

Thing is that Mcmanaman also does a lot of hard work but his role is very demanding and I don't think he would score enough goals nor create enough chances. In Wigan you get applause if you try and fail, in a bigger club you would probably get a smack in the back of your head or taken off early by the manager.

That's why Nani is the most divisive player in our squad. Sometimes, he still tries the sublime which none of our other players do, but achieves nothing. Some applaud him for trying, some think he is a waste.
 
Another reckless moment from him today. He has a nasty streak in him that i don't think you'll be able to take out, Bartons padawan.
 
Have heard it was a bad one today but not seen it. How bad was it?
 
Have heard it was a bad one today but not seen it. How bad was it?

Just saw it. He reacted angrily. I wasn't really watching properly, but he didnt mean to do it. Followed through though. Owen Coyle defending him
 
Have heard it was a bad one today but not seen it. How bad was it?

It was a great tackle, scandalous that he was sent off. Rightly he was fuming and my god does he have a horrible face.
 
At what point has he looked good enough at football for anyone to even consider him being able to play for Manchester United? That's before you even get to the fact he appears to be a collosal feckwit.

There's a parralel universe some of you are watching your football in.
 
At what point has he looked good enough at football for anyone to even consider him being able to play for Manchester United? That's before you even get to the fact he appears to be a collosal feckwit.

There's a parralel universe some of you are watching your football in.

Agree. Not sure why anyone is really discussing it to be honest. The club has just bought Zaha and he is much more akin to what United expect from a player.
 
RVP
Nani Zaha Mcmanaman
Cleverley Carrick
Evra Vidic Rio Valencia
DDG

I forget about Young quite a lot.


On what planet do you live if you actually think this is a sensible suggestion. So much wrong with the way you have set up the 3 AMs and why is Valencia at right back?

Not sure you understand how limited that attacking line would be compared to including the likes of Kagawa, Welbeck, Rooney. Even Januzaj would be a better fit than Zaha at #10. This is before querying why mcmanaman is there, bet you fancied us signing James McLean too when he burst onto the scene.
 
On what planet do you live if you actually think this is a sensible suggestion. So much wrong with the way you have set up the 3 AMs and why is Valencia at right back?

Not sure you understand how limited that attacking line would be compared to including the likes of Kagawa, Welbeck, Rooney. Even Januzaj would be a better fit than Zaha at #10. This is before querying why mcmanaman is there, bet you fancied us signing James McLean too when he burst onto the scene.
I was trying to fit all our right wingers into one formation. And it's called a 4-2-3-1, look it up.

I wasn't suggesting to use it against Chelsea. Not sure you understand what we were talking about.
 
I was trying to fit all our right wingers into one formation. And it's called a 4-2-3-1, look it up.

I wasn't suggesting to use it against Chelsea. Not sure you understand what we were talking about.

You are suggesting we buy mcmanaman and play Zaha behind the striker in that formation right?

And thanks for the education on the 4-2-3-1.

Hopefully I'm educating you here.
 
You are suggesting we buy mcmanaman and play Zaha behind the striker in that formation right?

And thanks for the education on the 4-2-3-1.

Hopefully I'm educating you here.
No I wasn't suggesting that. Hth
 
At what point has he looked good enough at football for anyone to even consider him being able to play for Manchester United? That's before you even get to the fact he appears to be a collosal feckwit.

There's a parralel universe some of you are watching your football in.

Some people would prefer us to lash a few 10-15m out regardless of who on.

Does anyone really think he's better than Nani, Valencia, Young, Kagawa or Zaha? If not, what benefit would he be?

McCarthy of Wigan is another one I don't understand. Made no impact in the charity shield, and I didn't notice much last season