I'm thinking of purchasing one. Have someone interesting in my TV and blueray player, might shift them on and get a Sony Bravia and PS3.
Should I buy a PS3?
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Noted RK thanks.
That can't play DVD or Blu-ray movies and has no games and will be double the price?
Yeah, but it has slightly better graphics (allegedly), woah yeah!
It's a games console, not a media entertainment system.
And it'll have games, plenty of 3rd party ones too. Come on Weaste, swallow your pride and admit you want one, admit you'd love nothing more than to garnish yourself in Nintendo's excellency and innovation.
Imagine how contrastably sexy that Wii U will look next to that PS3 of yours
Did you not own a nes and snes Weaste? How can anyone who grew up with Nintendo hate them?
There is no logic to fanboyism! It's like a disease
But let's get this thread back on track. Do you already own a 360 Woody?
But let's get this thread back on track. Do you already own a 360 Woody?
I find it very difficult to get excited about my ps3 in all honesty. There are very few good games, and I am currently replaying ff7 on it, which I purchased from the store. A game I was playing 10 years ago.
Its good for streaming films and TV shows.
Its good for streaming films and TV shows.
I don't hate them as a software developer, I think they are great. As a hardware developer it's difficult to swallow what they have become.
Well maybe you can blame Sony/M$, after all they are the ones making the hardware they can't really afford to if they were standalone companies. Nintendo are having to innovate to survive, and they keep doing it. Again, so far it's only the Wii that you can accuse of reusing tech too, unless you've got an issue with the Gamecube?
Besides, we don't even know what's properly in the Wii-U box. Just because it isn't a Cell, doesn't mean it's not clever.
Very few good games?
How many would you say there are? (excluding the games that are available for PC and play better on PC.) For me that leaves Uncharted 1/2, LBP, Red dead, and MSG, GOW3, Demon souls and Batman.
In three years, there has been one decent RPG, DA. FF13 was utter rubbish.
Fallout and oblivion were better on PC.
Of course its just my opinion, but even the Dreamcast had more memorable games.
How do you know that it doesn't use Cell?
It would be rather perfect, the PPE would provide almost flawless backwards compatibility.On your first point, they better start thinking out of the box, because as we have discussed before, the next console generation IMO will probably be the last. There will be no hardware for them to sell apart from peripherals.
Agreed, especially on the Dreamcast bit.
It's a neat console though, I've grown more fond of it than my 360.
How do you know that it doesn't use Cell?
On your first point, they better start thinking out of the box, because as we have discussed before, the next console generation IMO will probably be the last. There will be no hardware for them to sell apart from peripherals.
Waggle stick's on a Sony home system?
Oh wait
This whole generation stinks in terms of RPGs, especially the Japanese type.
Waggle stick's on a Sony home system?
Oh wait
Just saying that they could have produced the Wiimote, Sensor Bar, Balance Board, etc. and launched them as peripherals for other hardware at premium price, and combined with their own software, sold gangbusters. Software is what they do best, and I don't think it matters what platform it's on, Nintendo software will always sell, even if you have to shell out 100 quid for a balance board. That old argument about having to have the control mechanism in the box doesn't fly with Nintendo - how many Wii Fits have they sold again?
The 360 hasn't done too badly - Resonance of Fate, Losy Odyssey, Eternal Sonata, Tales of Vesperia etc.
The PS3 on the other hand has been a little abysmal on the jrpg front....ironic considering how it enjoyed the best share of them in the previous gen.
But why, when they can sell a shed load of consoles too?
Why exclude games that are also available on the PC? Practically every game will be better on the PC. However, I don't game on the PC. Therefore, to me, they are great PS3 games.
The Dreamcast had more memorable games? I still own one. Outside of Shenmue, what memorable games did it have? I own Crazy Taxi, Shenmue 1 & 2, Jet Set Radio, Ready 2 Rumble Boxing 2, House of the Dead, and Code Veronica. Good games? Yes. Better, or more memorable, than the likes of Red Dead, Demon's Souls, Mass Effect, Oblivion, Uncharted, etc?
Not in my opinion.
Because after the next generation, nobody is going to be buying consoles. They will not exist.
Don't know why mkv is used. It's mostly anime so maybe it's a Japanese thing.
Never found a good converter and never bothered looking for one again.
There will be another Nintendo one no doubt.
And nobody will buy it. The buying a console because of the Nintendo 1st party stuff is only partially correct, but not a guarantee - N64, Gamecube.
To be fair he is talking about his opinion, and I agree that to a point. I don't think there's a lack as such on this generation, but they certainly aren't coming thick and fast.
They obviously sell well enough though.
How big is this price drop going to be?
Could be $50, could be $100.
Not that i don't believe you weaste but why is that?
He can't be sure of course, but it's likely there'll be a complete shift to media boxes that do everything.
As long as there's not just one brand to pick from.
Just sticking to exclusives.
Red dead red vs Shenmue
MSR vs GT5
Jet set radio vs LBP 2
uncharted vs Skies of arcadia
Would you say that the Sony titles are that much better?
Red Dead is not an exclusive. I do prefer it to Shenmue, though.
I haven't played GT5 (not a fan of the series). MSR didn't blow me away.
I haven't played LBP2, either. I do own the first. Hard to compare such different games.
Uncharted, by some considerable distance.
God of of War 3 & Demon's Souls > All of the above
My guess is something similar to that what Lambs said. That you'll have in your home a media box connected to either a TV or monitor that will deal with all of your TV, music, video, and network needs, probably with a large solid state drive and whatever distributable removable format at the time is (if that still exists by then), and have the ability to be connected to keyboards, mice, printers, game controllers, etc. In addition, it will function as a docking station for a tablet type of device. So, depending on how and where you want to use it, it will do everything from being a fully functional PC to a console to a DVR to a Blu-ray player (or whatever supersedes it if anything does), network video and audio streamer, and a handheld computer/media/gaming/phone device on the go, everything fully synced. Even when apart, both could communicate with each other over the Internet, and you could have multiple tablet and phone devices registered with the same docking station.
I think that we are approaching the age now where dedicated devices are going to die out, and it also includes the desktop PC and the laptop. Android and iOS might currently be the flavour of the month, but once Windows 8 is released for ARM then the game will change, and business will change the game. Instead of offices being filled with desktop PCs and people also having laptops, they will instead be filled with docking stations connected to monitors with keyboards and mice and a removable tablet.
Waggle stick's on a Sony home system?
Oh wait
This is off topic, but using Cell surely isn't that out of the gap? I wonder if you know, because I don't, but who owns what of the different parts of the Cell BE? We know that IBM never wanted SPEs, and that Toshiba never wanted any PPEs - they in particular have made their own bits of silicon with no PPE and can use whatever controller they like from ARM to Intel, because the SPE isn't a Power architecture. We also know that the Cell's PPE was simply slightly modified to make Xenon, so obviously IBM totally own that being a Power line processor. So, Toshiba probably own the SPE, and IBM own the PPE, so what do Sony own? It can only be the actual architecture of the Cell BE. Obviously none of them charge the other any licensing fees for use of the whole between themselves, but how does that relate to outside companies, for example Nintendo? I suppose that IBM could deliver them with a chip similar to Xenon and be done with it, IBM gets all of the cash and nothing for Sony or Toshiba. I also suppose that they could use the architecture, replace the PPE with one or more upclocked Broadways and replace the SPEs with little ARM processors, thus only paying IBM and Sony and nothing to Toshiba. I further suppose that they could use the Toshiba SPURS engine and link it to an updated 3 core Broadway and pay IBM and Toshiba yet nothing to Sony. Or finally, they could use an ARM CPU connected to a SPURS engine and pay only Toshiba and nothing to IBM or Sony.
Have you any clue on how this works and who owns what?
Basically star trek.
As long as I have cool whoosing doors!
As long as I have cool whoosing doors!
No, as you know hardware design is far from my thing, but I do remember reading something on this from the start. It makes sense with so many companies involved that Cell can be cannabalised and changed into variants.
I remember saying to you once that the Ps3 cell reminded me of the Emotion Engine, in that it's the flavour of the month for this console, but will likely have all the good bits ripped out and changed for the Ps4. I think it's simply a case that with so many companies involved, it's easy to see how things can be used in other systems, possibly explaining why the Wii-U can have the power so cheaply? (If indeed it will be cheap for the box itself)
Shucks guys, the OP only wanted to know if he should buy a PS3, keep it simple for us mere mortals!
Joking.
Interesting stuff, even if I could only "un"-encrypt 50% of what you guys are discussing.