Brandon could do a good job on the right as an attacking RB.
AWB will continue to be the first choice that side
A genuine LB option to Shaw is bit more pressing.
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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Brandon could do a good job on the right as an attacking RB.
AWB will continue to be the first choice that side
A genuine LB option to Shaw is bit more pressing.
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We have Laird to hopefully come through the academy so personally I don’t see the benefit of it. AWB is fine and offers the huge benefit of locking down an entire side of the pitch. We have good enough attacking options for our productivity to come from elsewhere
A United defender typically needs to be able to defend first and foremost 1 on 1 and then be a part of the build up. We’ve rarely had purely offensive fullbacks with our width coming from wingers instead.
Would Reguilon, Umtiti and VDB (for a total cost of around €60m) be classed as a good transfer window?
I think that'd be an incredible trio of signings in terms of profile, age, cost in the current climate and will give our squad the depth it needs.
I think that'd be an incredible trio of signings in terms of profile, age, cost in the current climate and will give our squad the depth it needs.
Yeah, AWB is the best defensive fullback so attack down the left with Reguilon, backups are Shaw and Williams for rotation or games that require more defensive play on the left or more attacking on the right.
Thats assuming Dalot is the one to make way and not Shaw.
Your exact words: United should not be "submissive to other clubs". As likely as not, it's Reguilón's agents adding a buyback, or buyout clause (if there is one); not Real. IMHO, it should depend on the player and position. If we can get as good a LB elsewhere we do; if we can't, we get him.
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I'm pretty sure Umtitis knee is fecked and Barca have been trying to flog him for the past two seasons because of this. They even signed another left footed CB in Lenglet when it happened. Umtiti before his injury was flying and otherwise they had no real reason to move him on.
I also said it doesn’t matter who inserts such a clause, it would mean that another club could buy one of our players whenever they wanted, or hold it as leverage over us in other negotiations. That’s not acceptable.
Left back is not even a priority for us. He’s hardly the missing piece of the jigsaw. Unless he can play right wing...
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We have 1 left-footed fullback who can't stay fit for 80% of matches. We have 5 right-footed fullbacks: AWB, Laird, Dalot, Williams, TFM; 3 of them are "attacking".
Yeah, I just read somewhere that they'd be willing to move him on for free if he was willing to reduce the amount owed from contract... or something like that. Didn't know it was because of a knee injury - is he worth a gamble on a free?
I’m sorry but this is ridiculous. It’s 50-50 whether he’s actually better than a fit Luke Shaw to begin with so even at the ‘knockdown price’ of 25m there are numerous other left backs we could get for that price to offer cover. If we do sign him and he becomes a key player then having a buy back is absurd as then he can just leave without our control. And to be perfectly frank if he doesn’t want to be here and it’s just some stepping stone for Madrid then I don’t want him. We’re one of the biggest clubs on the planet trying to build a side to compete for the next 5-6 years. We absolutely are in a position to not be held to ransom by Madrid’s third choice left back. If he wants to come and compete for a place and there’s no buy-back then great otherwise there’s absolutely no point touching him. And I’m fairly certain that will be Ole’s position to.
I'd have to say no. Barca don't give anyone away on a free. He must be finished but if he was to be playing regularly you could be convinced otherwise.
No way, you're just taking on someone else's headache
Just checked online and Umtiti admits he has permanent knee issues.
He played through pain at the World Cup but doesn't regret it as he won the thing.
He'll probably just have to do a Winston Bogarde and be in the stands until his contract runs out. Hope the moneys good enough to last a couple of decades.
He played through pain at the World Cup but doesn't regret it as he won the thing.
He'll probably just have to do a Winston Bogarde and be in the stands until his contract runs out. Hope the moneys good enough to last a couple of decades.
You could've said the same for Wan Bissaka and Maguire but we didn't walk away and ended up paying what they wanted in the end.
We don't have a single fullback who is established at first team level who gives Ole tactical flexibility. This player gives us that option and is available for a reasonable fee and has proven he can provide width and combination play in attack. Even for a couple of years it makes sense because even if he leaves in two years it will represent potentially good business because he'll see us through a transitional phase and we'll be in a better position to replace him. There's benefits to signing him even with a buyback.
And maybe his replacement will be a player from Madrid's youth team who we've signed this year in Alvaro Carreras.
It would have to be seriously looked into if Umtiti could actually be fit for a long enough time to be of any value. He could just take Jones place in the physios room. If he was able to stay injury free, that would be a hell of a signing on a free.
We got AWB and Maguire for cheaper than we were told? Hell I remember the Zaha clause being used as a bargaining tool and we shut that down.
Madrid cant move Bale and bought Hazard for 160m with 12 months left, bought Jovic for 60m, couldn't buy Pogba etc.
It seems everybody dictates terms to Madrid easily enough
Ignoring Umtiti's injury trouble, I think the problem with all three options is none of them are instant first XI players. We definitely need squad improvements as well (e.g. VdB), but we also need a couple of first XI players to push on and challenge Liverpool and City (and possibly Chelsea now too).
Could be another Ledley King. No training and play games when fit - for an average team unfortunately
agree completely.
So is this a realistic target and a realistic target we are pursuing or is it a media linking us to every player and his dog situation?
Hazard did not cost 160m.
You believe any report that comes out?
Pogba was deemed not worth the money. What has he really done for United that would encourage RM to spend big for him? We passed on him as youngster Velverde put more promising performances then Pogba at United.
No it would be an awful window.
Reguilon would be a good squad option but is barely an upgrade on Shaw.
Umtiti would be a stupid signing. The guy is a crock. He’s a fantastic defender but his knee is fecked. Barcelona would not be wanting rid of him If they felt his injury issues were in the past. We have enough sick note defenders.
VDB is a great signing but it’s debatable whether he improves the first 11.
We got AWB and Maguire for ridiculously inflated prices and I've said so for nearly a year now.
The examples you're giving are of players who Madrid bought and not sold. So the selling club dictates like in the cases you mention. Reguilon is a Madridista and Madrid aren't gonna give him away for a knock down fee without the added caveat IMO. Even with the buyback there's a huge benefit to us and the buyback may never get triggered because Madrid have two established leftbacks in the current team and the highly rated Guttierez who is touted to be a Madrid regular from the youth system. If we can bring him in even with the buyback it makes sense and will provide us with a genuine wingback threat.
I take it you've watched him alot then?
Pogba would be your best player to be honest.
Umtiti is the last thing we need. Another erratic injury prone centre back on a huge wage. We already have Jones, Bailly & Rojo doing that job. No thanks.
VDB, Reguilon & Thiago, keeping Smalling, would be better.
You didn't pass on Pogba. If you don't have money, that doesn't mean you passed on him. And No Valverde didn't put more promising performance than Pogba. You can counter points without silly exaggeration.
Just to be clear, has anyone apart from you even suggested a buy back clause?
The knock effects are far too big for a player in a position that’s pretty far down our list of priorities.
From what I’ve read Shaw is better defensively and Regulion better in attack. Room for both in this squad, especially with Shaw’s injuries.
We really do need an attacking option at LB or RB so I’d be all for the addition at the right price.
I'm not the one who mentioned a buyback clause, the claim was made by Madrid based media. I'm just saying that even with a buyback clause this signing could be of great benefit to us like the player was for Sevilla. Two years is a long time in football and by then we could well be in a far stronger position to replace him, assuming Madrid do trigger the clause which doesn't look likely to me.
i’ve watched him enough to know that he isn’t the second coming of Evra like some seem to think he is.
Don’t get me wrong, I’d love him at the club, but a summer of him Umtiti and DVB is terrible.
RM bought Hazard for 110, Jovic for 60, Mendy for 50, Rodrygo for 50, Militao for 50 and Reineir for 30 = total of 350 million euros spend on players last season. We are not in for Pogba anymore as he is not worth the money. As I said mainly because Velverde Blossomed. Velverde Value went from 20 million euros to 54 million euros on transfermarkt. Means he had a breakthrough season. Pogba on the other hand was injured for the most part. Did not play any significant part for you guys. So no exaggeration.
Maybe next season things might be different if Pogba finally does have a significant impact on United and win a title. And Velverde/Ødegaard does not turn out to be as good as they are predicted to be.
Umtiti would be a disaster. Hopefully we have learned enough painful lessons to go nowhere near him, wouldn’t take him on a free given his wages.
No disrespect but United is a tier below RM and He is not even the best player at United.
It is exaggeration as you didn't mention this season, also if you meant this season, it would have been silly point considering one player missed most of the season.
You are not in for Pogba as you can't afford him. World doesn't revolve around Madrid.
Edit: btw you have already paid 130 million for Hazard, with max around 160 million is possible if all add ons are met.
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The last thing we need is another injury prone centre back.
160m was the number BBC claimed it was as well.
My point is, its not Madrids way or the high way. Its 2020, nobody bends the knee anymore. We cant dictate to Madrid.. Feck me
It would be pathetic given what we actually need.
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