Used them as an example, since many people discredit Pogba's ability while calling Savic a "midfield general". But it could be applied to any top club and none seem to be interested in this guy for those insane prices.
Sergej Milinkovic Savic
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Oh ok cause after re reading it I can see how someone could take offense to it
As for Savic, I am not sure if there are any Lazio fans that can confirm this but didn’t Savic not have that good of a season last season? I remember 17/18 was his breakout year but he didn’t seem to kick on from that last season.
I think that if this deal goes through then the idea is too push Pogba further up the pitch and have Savic in behind him I reckon.
But its also reported the Pogba interest is driven more by Zidane whereas the Real board themselves are less convinced.
Him aside, I don't think a players potential should be weighted on what our peers are planning. Salah was bought without much competition, same seemingly with KDB, Firminho, Fabinho, etc.
Just cannot see this one at all, poor in world cup, not a great season with Lazio. I think the club and his agent have linked him with United, so that other clubs may become interested. Pepe is a similar scenario in my eyes. Would rather give Fred a go this season, he did show signs of good play towards the end of the season, and hopefully Garner will develop over the next couple of years.
We always overpay for flops though, that's the difference and what worries me.
In this market we are overpaying regardless.
Yeah, but when they flop, it's double the blow and we just slowly kill ourselves.
Yeah, but we just have to trust Ole and his staff. I get it's a big risk with a Serie A player but he has attributes to flourish.
I find this debate pointless though because I don't believe these links in the first place!
Seems average from the little i've seen.
Not been too impressed whenever I've seen him play. With all these midfielders we are targeting and "considering" bidding for I'm not sure what to make of all this. Hope the club doesn't see him as a replacement for Pogba.
So many times, hit or flop depends on intangible factors. It's great when talent overpowers everything and a new player hits the ground running but how many "flops" or "not good enough for...." players turn out to make all the difference in a new side. Yaya, De Bruyne, Salah and a thousand others were let go because they had become players that couldn't cut it or weren't good enough. Maybe if they had gone to Real Madrid, Barca, etc,... they would still be languishing. I still am not convinced that Pogba would have become the player we saw emerge at Juve if he had remained at United the first time. He certainly hasn't come close to what many of us had hoped he would be but that's probably expected since we've been shit for 10 years. I hope Pogba stays but I could see Savic doing a great job at United.
He's very highly rated by Lazio and Serie A fans who watch him week in week out. I would take their opinions over the CAF posters based on that merit. Some also say he's a poor man's Pogba. I don't know but i am really intrigued by this player. Would love to see him play in the Prem even if it's not for us
He has great technique and seems to have a good engine on him, would definitely add something to the possession based, building from the back philosophy that Ole is looking to implement as he has great touch and control and can thread a pass. I don't think he carries the same goal threat as Pogba and perhaps won't see the killer early ball like Pogba so often does and for that reason I don't see him as a direct replacement. Would definitely rather Sergej than some names that have been floated and if we added him and Bruno then that would give our midfield a new identity although we would still need a commanding CDM.
He makes more sense than Bruno Fernandes for me.
I was impressed with him in the 2018 World Cup but can’t say I’ve watched more of him since.
It does work though - at least as much as playing further forward. Pogba has played three seasons at the club and been deployed in a deeper role as much, if not more than, in an advanced role and there has been no correlation between his position and his form - he has had all manner of performances in both roles.
I was only responding to another poster asking or remarking on how suitable Savic would be for replacing Herrera and playing behind Pogba. Savic by all accounts underwhelmed last season playing deeper (didn’t see him), after having a stellar year the season prior in an advanced midfield role (saw him and agree with that consensus). He won an award last season but the results were determined by a statistical model, and the stats mentioned in championing him related mostly to involvements in the final third. He looked a no.10 type, much more comfortable playing high and with his back to goal than Pogba, who was the best midfielder at the World Cup last year playing in a deeper role. Even if playing as the most attacking no.8 in a three is Pogba’s best position, he has shown he is capable of playing deeper to a high standard. While I would need to see Milinkovic-Savic in a deeper role to really know, there was nothing in his performances as an attacking midfielder to suggest he would be better deeper and it would seem that he clearly isn’t. If they were to play together I would think it is obvious who should play where.
Would absolute love him at United. Very allround and smart. Would be a great number 8
If we were to play two attack minded midfielders with Pogba being one of them would we be better off with Fernandes or Savic as the second one ? I know Fernandes and Savic are different players so which is better suited alongside Pogba and a defensive midfiejder ?
Midfielder of the year in Serie A this season in an award by OPTA.
THis is the second season they've tried to offload him and they haven't seemed to have found any takers.
This one and the Pepe one isn't happening.
Maguire, Longstaff and maybe Bruno guy, i think are the only ones we're after.
My gut feeling is ITK.
Maguire, Longstaff and maybe Bruno guy, i think are the only ones we're after.
My gut feeling is ITK.
Both of them are good players that could improve us. But i rather have SMS to be honest. He won't be bullied so easily here.
I watch him quite a lot given I watch Serie A. I think a lot of people here are underrating him. It is true that he did not have a great season last year. I think a lot of it has to do with him staying while he was intent on a transfer away. We've seen this happen to many players (Perisic, etc.). On his day, he can shoot, pass, able to get past players, great in the air. I think he tends to dwell on the ball too much sometimes. He's also better offensively than defensively. I don't really see how him and Pogba would co-exist unless they play alongside an excellent and very disciplined DM.
think if we get this guy he will be forced to play deep & pick up the ball from our centre halves together with Fred. Probably end up as our replacement for Matic.
Because he can carry the ball, is willing to defend, strong, press resistant & wins everything in the air. Has a range of passes too.
Because he can carry the ball, is willing to defend, strong, press resistant & wins everything in the air. Has a range of passes too.
Said this before, but in terms of comparison the closest thing would be Alli. It's not that he isn't good in a deeper, midfield role, but rather he is so good in a shadow striker/target man role that playing him in a different one would be a waste of his talents, as clearly evidenced last season
Remember all of our rejected €100m bids last summer?
This is bollocks.
This is bollocks.
He is an attacking player, not a Matic replacement.
112k a week agreed sparks some real bs. Since when do we give out pennies like that
Hope we’re preparing a bid.
Post tax.
By the look of it, we're aiming for a no 10. I think we're looking at a midfield made up of
-------------Matic/Longstaff------------
--------Pogba-------Mctominay-------
------------SMS or Bruno/Mata------------
---------Rashford--------Martial------
We’re certainly being linked with enough no.10s, but there’s no real reason to think we’re looking at a set up like that in midfield.
He was voted best Midfielder in Serie A in 2017/18 season. He is a strong player on the ball and can carry it well.
I am using this as a template mate, although Ole did flirted with a 4-4-2 diamond formation before. We might go 4-2-3-1 with Pogba and Matic in CM and SMS or Bruno, Martial and James/Greenwood just behind Rashford.
He’s a good player, the issue is he was told he could leave last summer and an unnamed club bid €75m for him but Lazio were holding out for €100m. He then had a bit of a strop and downed tools, coupled with Lazio’s poor form he hasn’t been that impressive.
I certainly think he’s worth the outlay anyway.
This seems to have come out of nowhere again, we're also being linked with signing half a team currently (for big money.)
Unless there's a Pogba sale in the pipeline to fund it all?
Unless there's a Pogba sale in the pipeline to fund it all?
Strange how they all seem to come out of nowhere. I think this is a load of crap and may have come as a fake leak to from Woody as maybe have others, to make it look like we are trying to sign players when we are not, to show much of a good CEO he is.
Really? Seemed very average at that tournament.
The 4-2-3-1 has been a constant in the pre-season games so I would say it’s most reasonable to assume that’s how we’ll go. You would think it would be one of Milinkovic-Savic or Fernandes but there is always the possibility of Pogba leaving and the question of how we replace him - at least one of them would be misused if we used both in that shape.