Sell me the Glazers: Positive Arguments for Glazer ownership

C'est Moi Cantona said:
Interesting listening to Philb De Brun, saying something along the lines of we've let it be known to agents that we need to sell before we buy, or anything big anyway.

Also convinced they're getting the balance sheet looking as good as possible right now in order to make us more attractive to sell.

I know not everyone one is a fan, but it was a brutal podcast for a fan to listen to.
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Delighted to see what is currently trending on Twitter. We are all fed up about being totally a business and forgot we are a football club built on success and tradition which the Glazers and Ed Woodward the twat has ruined. Time for the fans to keep this up everyday, protest and make sure that these parasites don't get a minute's peace or be able to walk in Old Trafford again without this being known
 
Positives? none. Parasites draining our club and we're still in debt, they've just been paying off interest and paying themselves dividends. Even OT could do with a major overhaul it's started to rust/rot in a lot of places.
 
Ed Woodward "We can do things in the transfer market that other clubs can only dream of. Watch this space."
 
feck Glazers. feck Ed Woodward. And feck all of our board. And feck anyone that makes excuses for them.

*Heads off to buy the new United shirt*
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
Interesting listening to Philb De Brun, saying something along the lines of we've let it be known to agents that we need to sell before we buy, or anything big anyway.

Also convinced they're getting the balance sheet looking as good as possible right now in order to make us more attractive to sell.

I know not everyone one is a fan, but it was a brutal podcast for a fan to listen to.
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Just listened to it. I’m thinking the same in regards to selling the club, I have no idea how that shit works but I’m clinging to the hope that this is the case.
 
Wayne's World said:
Delighted to see what is currently trending on Twitter. We are all fed up about being totally a business and forgot we are a football club built on success and tradition which the Glazers and Ed Woodward the twat has ruined. Time for the fans to keep this up everyday, protest and make sure that these parasites don't get a minute's peace or be able to walk in Old Trafford again without this being known
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Only meaningful protest is empty seats.

They needed a full police escort out of the ground in 2005, they had seen effigies of Malcolm being hung from the Stratford End.

They weren’t bothered. If 40,000 had boycotted in 2005, they’d have started to get nervous.

We need proper leadership from the fanzines and Fan groups but the likes of Full Time Devils are clueless and MUST have started to hold functions at Old Trafford. Bring back Red Issue!!

Shambles across the club.
 
Le Red said:
Corrected in the name of intellectual honesty.

Miller, Forlan, an aging keano, howard, kleberson, rossi, bellion, carroll

Funny how you cherry picked those names and still managed to cite two damn good players.
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I'm sorry you seem to think that I "cherry picked" these players, as they were a major part of that squad that failed miserably and lets not rewrite history here, Forlan was rubbish for us (no shame as not the first).

Also if Howard was so good why did we replace him with a 35 yr old that rejected us 6 yrs previously ?
 
I’m really praying that they’re looking to sell hence the lack of investment in the squad so far. We can start to have ambition again when they go. I’m personally really looking forward to how aggressive we could be in the market with owners who’ll settle for nothing but success, regardless of their motives.
 
I would be more excited if these leeches fecked off than us signing any player or players. Since Fergie retired they've been hiding behind their employee Woodward. We just don't have the mentality of a elite club and are happy with top 4 as things stand.
 
Coops73 said:
Just listened to it. I’m thinking the same in regards to selling the club, I have no idea how that shit works but I’m clinging to the hope that this is the case.
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Yep exactly - this is what they're good at and it's a good time for them to sell (I can't see us winning anything big in the short term, money is still pouring into football and maybe an exit now, after they have increased the value of the club by 400%, would be a good thing)

Issue is will new owners be any different if they do sell.
 
Got rid of Fellaini, got rid of Valencia. Looks like Young is being replaced and a CB is high priority.

This is good work in the short transfer spells since Ole took over, but I’ve said it to anyone who’ll listen since May, this Summer will be the one that truly shows us the ambitions of the owners.
We need to be spending massive, if that means the likes Maguire or Koulibaly for a daft fee, so be it. Anything less and it’ll be another season like last, yet with no second place to hide the problems in the squad.

If the Glazers don’t spend a massive amount this Summer, they have no issue with simply fighting for 4th place at best, and that is the first time we can say that with any certainty since they bought the club.
 
MancunianAngels said:
Only meaningful protest is empty seats.

They needed a full police escort out of the ground in 2005, they had seen effigies of Malcolm being hung from the Stratford End.

They weren’t bothered. If 40,000 had boycotted in 2005, they’d have started to get nervous.

We need proper leadership from the fanzines and Fan groups but the likes of Full Time Devils are clueless and MUST have started to hold functions at Old Trafford. Bring back Red Issue!!

Shambles across the club.
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Won't work, it has been said more than half of the PL clubs could run at a profit now without fans attending so the only way for these cretins to be heard is if the fans DO turn up but they need to be doing the protesting loudly and consistently.

People also need to boycott merchandise and boycott actual sponsors.

Flood all our sponsors with the same negative image on their twitter's and social media and they will get itchy feet.
 
What we SHOULD be doing is coordinated negative tweeting against United sponsors and partners.

Believe me, there is not one business on this planet that would stomach 32,000 negative tweets as a result of an association they spend big on

For example, imagine 32,000 people tweeted United's official coffee partner or official watch/travel/bedsheet partner etc...highlighting concerns about the product and their ethics/culture

Absolute fact the Glazers would sit up and take notice of this
 
A half empty OT or walkout would be big negative publicity/talking point though, aimed soley at them
 
Not a Glazer fan, never have been a fan and fully behind it. However, I don't think it's going to make a huge difference. The Glazers own the club and they wont just down tools and be gone as much as I hope they do.
 
Coops73 said:
Just listened to it. I’m thinking the same in regards to selling the club, I have no idea how that shit works but I’m clinging to the hope that this is the case.
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It was not a nice listen really, but as one of them rightly said if we continue to fall down the league then the clubs value will drop, so they either need to invest properly, or they need to sell, and quickly if this having to sell to cover big buys thing Philb alluded to is true, as fans just won't be taken for mugs this time.
 
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Marcelinho87 said:
Won't work, it has been said more than half of the PL clubs could run at a profit now without fans attending so the only way for these cretins to be heard is if the fans DO turn up but they need to be doing the protesting loudly and consistently.

People also need to boycott merchandise and boycott actual sponsors.

Flood all our sponsors with the same negative image on their twitter's and social media and they will get itchy feet.
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Again, if that level of protest didn’t work in 2005 (with an organised and more “United” fanbase, it won’t work now)

Tens of thousands of empty seats at the Chelsea game would, at the very least, send a clear message.

If you’re gonna give the Glazer family a grand a season, you may aswell just go and try to enjoy the football.

Protesting in a full ground is utterly pointless (as proven by the green and gold protests in 2010).
 
MancunianAngels said:
Again, if that level of protest didn’t work in 2005 (with an organised and more “United” fanbase, it won’t work now)

Tens of thousands of empty seats at the Chelsea game would, at the very least, send a clear message.

If you’re gonna give the Glazer family a grand a season, you may aswell just go and try to enjoy the football.

Protesting in a full ground is utterly pointless (as proven by the green and gold protests in 2010).
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Thing is, back then we had SAF giving us things to look forward to.

Now? It gets worse and more toxic as the days go by.
 
Marcelinho87 said:
Thing is, back then we had SAF giving us things to look forward to.

Now? It gets worse and more toxic as the days go by.
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Easier to say with hindsight but things weren’t looking great for United or Fergie in the immediate aftermath of the Glazer takeover.

Looking at 12 months down the line, the 2006/2007 season was huge for the club and saved Fergie from harming his reputation (that was the type of season Wenger never managed post 2004)

Almost ironically though, had Fergie commented on the Glazer takeover, things would have been very dodgy in the short term, but things might look very different (and more positive) now. Like with many things at the club, we’ve witnessed short term gains and suffered pain in the long term.

As for the situation being toxic United fans were regularly coming to blows with each other around this period. Far more severe than a few mean words on Twitter or Internet forums
 
There clever money men these guys are, new what they were getting when they bought out every Shareholder, the club is a global money making machine for them.
 
MancunianAngels said:
Easier to say with hindsight but things weren’t looking great for United or Fergie in the immediate aftermath of the Glazer takeover.

Looking at 12 months down the line, the 2006/2007 season was huge for the club and saved Fergie from harming his reputation (that was the type of season Wenger never managed post 2004)

Almost ironically though, had Fergie commented on the Glazer takeover, things would have been very dodgy in the short term, but things might look very different (and more positive) now. Like with many things at the club, we’ve witnessed short term gains and suffered pain in the long term.

As for the situation being toxic United fans were regularly coming to blows with each other around this period. Far more severe than a few mean words on Twitter or Internet forums
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I agree with you but I’ve got a feeling this is coming to a head.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
It was not a nice listen really, but as one of them rightly said if we continue to fall down the league then the clubs value will drop, so they either need to invest properly, or they need to sell, and quickly if this having to sell to cover big buys thing Philb alluded to is true, as fans just won't be taken for mugs this time.
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I thought that what he said at the end was interesting about one of Uniteds high ranking executive had to make her account private but just before she did she tweeted an article about “sweating the asset” this summer. De Brun said that it meant draining every last drop out of the club before putting anything in, I’m not very knowledgeable on this kind of shizzle so I googled it and from what I read it seems to refer to a company getting the best out of what they have without further investment usually prior to or after a sale.

Like I said I know feck all about this kind of thing but if what he’s saying there is true it’s very interesting.
 
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Coops73 said:
I thought that what he said at the end was interesting about one of Uniteds high ranking executive had to make her account private but just before she did she tweeted an article about “sweating the asset” this summer. De Brun said that it meant draining every last drop out of the club before putting anything in, I’m not very knowledgeable on this kind of shizzle so I googled it and from what I read it seems to refer to a company getting the best out of what they have without further investment usually prior to or after a sale.

Like I said I know feck all about this kind of thing but if what he’s saying there is true it’s very interesting.
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It really is a tragedy that a lot are just waiting for the Glazers to totally drain us dry so they can finally go, and we can move on, we should be at pitchfork status by now, but I think people are just drained of the whole thing, or brainwashed into thinking we are about to turn things around.

I honestly bet they can't believe how little heat they've got for doing this to us, maybe Ed is doing a very good job after all, just not for United.
 
C'est Moi Cantona said:
It really is a tragedy that a lot are just waiting for the Glazers to totally drain us dry so they can finally go, and we can move on, we should be at pitchfork status by now, but I think people are just drained of the whole thing, or brainwashed into thinking we are about to turn things around.

I honestly bet they can't believe how little heat they've got for doing this to us, maybe Ed is doing a very good job after all, just not for United.
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Ed not a fan or paid to care about the fan. his job is to make the glazers money nothing else matter to them
 
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