Gaming Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (PC, PS4, Xbox One)

[Redlambs]

I'm an unashamed DS2 enjoyer, despite it being the black sheep, so Im not implying there's an insult somwhere in the comparison. Its just not an obvious likeness to me, or at least no more than most other soulsborne games. Unlike Elden Ring, which is very reminiscent of DS2 and often gets called Dark Souls 2 2.

Elden Ring has similar flaws too, that is absolutely right and why I still have that beneath DS1,3 and BB.

In Sekiro they don't show up as much because of the fact it's a different game and flows differently, but it's definitely built on the DS2 version of the engine and not DS3's update. Even the mods had to be made more with that in mind. Stuff like the range shots and how they work, and like I say, much of the level design is similar in flow. The cheapness at times is straight out of the same playbook. Again that feels different though because of how you can master the combat and move around more freely, but it's very much there.

But yeah, I'm a fan of DS2 still too. I just wish they'd actually work on the engine now, even Armored Core 6 runs on the same tired platform that desperately needs an overhaul!

 

[Sky1981]

There's a way to end the game roughly halfway through and fight a unique combination of a certain character plus a very different version of the final boss, so there is some incentive to go for a second run. I remember thinking that version was even harder than the Sword Saint for me personally.

As in no more progression characters wise.

With souls game you can still get stronger. With Sekiro i think that's all. The rest is cosmetic iirc

 

[GhastlyHun]

I now have arrived at Isshin, the Sword Glock Saint. I can deal with Genichiro and phase I (the actual sword fighting Sword Saint) well enough, but I have only once arrived at the last phase so far in ~20 tries

 

[Siorac]

I now have arrived at Isshin, the Sword Glock Saint. I can deal with Genichiro and phase I (the actual sword fighting Sword Saint) well enough, but I have only once arrived at the last phase so far in ~20 tries

Everybody gangsta until he pulls out the Glock.

(I played uber carefully and kept looking for Mikiri counters at the end of spear combos)

 

[Schmiznurf]

I now have arrived at Isshin, the Sword Glock Saint. I can deal with Genichiro and phase I (the actual sword fighting Sword Saint) well enough, but I have only once arrived at the last phase so far in ~20 tries

Same for me, Genichiro is piss, I can get through Isshin's first phase with only using 2 or 3 heals, but the second phase destroys me every time.

 

[caid]

Isshin felt like a time trial to me nearly. I was never going to last that long against him. I think when i got the kill the fight was over really, really fast. I never really got a good grip on the spear attacks, the glock was surprising but manageable.

 

[GhastlyHun]

Same for me, Genichiro is piss, I can get through Isshin's first phase with only using 2 or 3 heals, but the second phase destroys me every time.

I straight up refuse to heal until Isshin stage two, so often enough i die at Genichiro because i grow impatient

 

[quadrant]

Mini-tip for Isshin, kite him over to the bit nearer the bridge for the fight. It’s much easier to judge his spear attacks when you’re not in those long reeds.

 

[GhastlyHun]

That fecking grass really obfuscates some of the buildup for certain moves until it's too late.

 

[GhastlyHun]

Finished. Had a free 30 minutes today and finally managed it, even with resurrections and healing items to spare

 

[fergosaurus]

Just beat the Guardian Ape after about 20+ attempts. Seemed impossible at once stage so glad I can finally progress. Died many times to terror from being greedy and trying to sneak an extra hit in.

 

[bosnian_red]

Made it to the last fight and got to Isshin. Didn't pay a finger on him though.

Also fecked up the game progress and didn't do the bit to unlock fighting the Owl in Hirata. Just standard game progress.

Never ended up beating Isshin. Gave up. Was playing Sifu last week as the free monthly game and then had the urge to play this again. Naturally, have to start from the beginning because I'm shite at the game again so will have no chance unless I properly learn
Maybe this time I can actually finish the game, only Souls game that managed to beat me.

 

[Siorac]

Never ended up beating Isshin. Gave up. Was playing Sifu last week as the free monthly game and then had the urge to play this again. Naturally, have to start from the beginning because I'm shite at the game again so will have no chance unless I properly learn
Maybe this time I can actually finish the game, only Souls game that managed to beat me.

Everyone's gangsta until Isshin pulls out the Glock.

 

[bosnian_red]

Love this game. Feels like I got really good the past couple of weeks, been running through, and now got to the hirata estate version of the Owl which I never did before. Getting wrecked. So much harder than the ashina castle version.

Never mind I got good and just beat him. Wasn't even getting close to his 2nd phase, switched to mortal draw and started damaging him properly and got him on my 2nd try if getting him to his 2nd phase. Not bad. Have this thing where I never want to use my spirit emblems.. just in case I need them (even though I have 999 of them ) so never used that combat art.

 

[bosnian_red]

feck yeah. Beat it finally. Sword saint isshin wasn't too bad in the end, took about 5 tries total.

Demon of hatred on the other hand, fecked. See what others are saying that it's a Bloodborne boss. Spent an hour getting wrecked before deciding feck it, I'm gonna do the cheese. Spent another 20 minutes trying to time that jump .

Probably goes down as my favourite soulsborne game to be honest, even though it took multiple tries at it to finally go through and beat the game. The combat just so damn satisfying. On to Bloodborne next

 

[Siorac]

Sword saint isshin wasn't too bad in the end, took about 5 tries total.

it took me somewhat more than that. I'm not prepared to divulge the exact number at this present time.

 

[Schmiznurf]

feck yeah. Beat it finally. Sword saint isshin wasn't too bad in the end, took about 5 tries total.

Demon of hatred on the other hand, fecked. See what others are saying that it's a Bloodborne boss. Spent an hour getting wrecked before deciding feck it, I'm gonna do the cheese. Spent another 20 minutes trying to time that jump .

Probably goes down as my favourite soulsborne game to be honest, even though it took multiple tries at it to finally go through and beat the game. The combat just so damn satisfying. On to Bloodborne next

For me Demon of Hatred wasn't that bad, Sword Saint ruins me though.

 

[bosnian_red]

it took me somewhat more than that. I'm not prepared to divulge the exact number at this present time.

It's weird. I got properly good this time around though, the first time when the game first came out I must have been forcing through dark souls style play and wasn't playing it properly, the 2nd time a couple of years ago around I couldn't figure out Isshin. This time I just got the parrying like second nature. Hirata Owl didn't take more than about 8 tries either after my first reaction being what the feck, once I figured out to jump back on the fire crackers it was easy.

I struggled more against the bigger enemies who didn't use swords basically. Guardian apes first phase tougher than his 2nd, chained ogres were annoying for whatever reason. I guess if they had a sword I just got my timings spot on.

For me Demon of Hatred wasn't that bad, Sword Saint ruins me though.

It seemed just anti everything about Sekiro play style wise so I felt like I didn't want to unlearn my sekiro style and then be fecked for the final boss Also just massive hit boxes, hard to dodge with fire damage constantly, those massive fire orbs fecking you... Gonna do those reflections of strength to try and do him normally, but yeah I didn't feel like I was even learning how to take him on while fighting him.

 

[harshad]

Any tips for Guardian Ape. Fecker is too erratic. Would have continued in other areas but I am stuck at Headless and him and all out of Divine Confetti to fight Headless

 

[quadrant]

Any tips for Guardian Ape. Fecker is too erratic. Would have continued in other areas but I am stuck at Headless and him and all out of Divine Confetti to fight Headless

You can deflect his poop

 

[caid]

Any tips for Guardian Ape. Fecker is too erratic. Would have continued in other areas but I am stuck at Headless and him and all out of Divine Confetti to fight Headless

Firecrackers are very strong in phase 1, spear is very strong in phase 2. You can kind of force certain attacks by staying at certain ranges, some of which are quite punishable.

 

[bosnian_red]

Any tips for Guardian Ape. Fecker is too erratic. Would have continued in other areas but I am stuck at Headless and him and all out of Divine Confetti to fight Headless

Just stay patient, learn to read his moves and know when it's safe to give a few hits and back off. Run under his poop throw and always stay close, block when he's rolling around.

2nd phase when he stands to start doing the scream just run, then run back in. Spam deflect on his sword swings and then focus your timing for the big sword attack to then get him to fall, spear his worm out and attack it. That's it for the 2nd phase, easier than the first for me.

 

[harshad]

You can deflect his poop

Did not think this was possible

Firecrackers are very strong in phase 1, spear is very strong in phase 2. You can kind of force certain attacks by staying at certain ranges, some of which are quite punishable.

Havent tried firecrackers. Will try that.

Just stay patient, learn to read his moves and know when it's safe to give a few hits and back off. Run under his poop throw and always stay close, block when he's rolling around.

2nd phase when he stands to start doing the scream just run, then run back in. Spam deflect on his sword swings and then focus your timing for the big sword attack to then get him to fall, spear his worm out and attack it. That's it for the 2nd phase, easier than the first for me.

Cheers!

 

[harshad]

Got him and then another Snake Eyes and then another Guardian Ape and a friend.

Took me 2 hours to beat Snake Eyes again while this time round the Ape took like 3 attempts only

The fireworks and spear strat is super cool. Made the fight a lot easier.

 

[caid]

Got him and then another Snake Eyes and then another Guardian Ape and a friend.

Took me 2 hours to beat Snake Eyes again while this time round the Ape took like 3 attempts only

The fireworks and spear strat is super cool. Made the fight a lot easier.

Yeah Snake Eyes are surprisingly tough and theres definitely no cheap tricks against them ...
You do hit a point were cheap tricks wont win a fight but they go a long, long way against a lot of enemies.

 

[harshad]

Yeah Snake Eyes are surprisingly tough and theres definitely no cheap tricks against them ...
You do hit a point were cheap tricks wont win a fight but they go a long, long way against a lot of enemies.

I used a cheap trick though. Rather the environment and the arena the fight is in

 

[caid]

I used a cheap trick though. Rather the environment and the arena the fight is in

I was being sarcastic / trying to give you a hint. Theres other tricks. Arena works though obviously

 

[izzydiggler]

I got this on PS4 on launch…ended up cheesing a lot of bosses and the end boss just made me quit, which is something unheard of.

My failure has always been a source of inner shame and for some reason I decided to start it again. I went through the whole thing in a week and just found it a lot easier this time, most likely cause I didn’t spend 30 hours trying to play it like Dark Souls. Anyhow, finished it earlier and killed all the bosses (that you can in a single play through)…I still maintain there’s a lot of bad game design and it’s far from perfect but when you’re ‘in the zone’, there aren’t many games like it.