This is probably our best, and maybe only, opportunity to get decent money for him. I’d sell - it’s not as if we’d be strengthening them either.
Scott McTominay | Transfer discussion not performance discussion
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He'll be turning 27 this year, so he isn't going to get much better than he is right now. And right now he isn't good enough on the ball for us, a team who need to keep getting better on the ball from here. And we need to sell players to buy players. In general terms, it's as simple as that.
It's only a question of price and timing. If those are right then there's no good enough reason to keep him.
It's only a question of price and timing. If those are right then there's no good enough reason to keep him.
If they don’t buy McTominay, chances are they’ll buy someone better! £30m and I’d snatch their hand off.
I think he's an excellent squad player to have, along with Fred. Problem is, they both have received so much stick because they started every game for us because our recruitment was poor.
If McTominay isn't happy with being a squad player for a team on the up, then I guess he'll have to go because he obviously won't displace Casemiro.
If McTominay isn't happy with being a squad player for a team on the up, then I guess he'll have to go because he obviously won't displace Casemiro.
It doesn’t have to be life for us though. We’re not obligated to accept whatever Scott can serve up just because it’s the best he can do.
I rate McTominay as a good player for certain games. Maybe you dont, but your opinion is not gospel. We can agree that Fletcher was better, but he was quite shit for many of his first years too. Ten Hag has turned other players into more, so why not McTominay too?
An opportunity comes along to sell a mediocre player for decent money, something the club has been criticised for not doing many times in the past as we hold on to them for too long, and people are like nah, keep him
Think he's better than Longstaff so would improve Newcastle, but not to an amount that we'd regret. Need to clear some of the midfield out for Hannibal and hopefully a new CM this summer anyway
I’m obviously biased and want to keep him but if it was silly money and we could target a better option then it would be very worthwhile.
He's a decent to good box-to-box midfielder. He is Casemiro's backup right now and has little chance of becoming a regular under Ten Hag. He is a player that doesn't have a long-term future at Man Utd but he won't be sold this window.
Well it depends on who the replacement and what the money goes to doesnt it? If you just move on to another or even more mediocre player because no better alternatives are available, then whats the point?
Had high hopes for him a couple of seasons ago but he hasn't progressed and he does seem to hide in the big games.Sell if a decent offers on the table,best for both parties.
The irony is, in the long run the same thing would happen at Newcastle anyway (if there's anything in this).
We all know they will bring in better players.
We all know they will bring in better players.
Wow
I'm not desperate to see him go but if it's a good offer then we should consider it, especially as it's been suggested we'll have to sell "well" if we want to spend in the summer.
Yes, him playing so many games for us is a source of bafflement, and no testament to his quality. He has never been a good player. He’s not one of those ‘was a star in the academy but despite several chances just couldn’t cut it’ players like Axel. He was poor as a youth player and has never been good enough as a senior one.
I agree that I also wouldn’t have been pushing to sell him in January over the summer - but we cannot dictate when offers come. We sat by for the whole of last summer waiting for clubs to come and buy Tuanzebe, Telles, Jones, Williams, Wan Bissaka, Bailly and others and none of it materialised bar a few loans. If we are offered money for Scott now, we should take it. If it is from Newcastle, then even more so as they instantly become a worse football team with him in their midfield, so we win twice.
As far as cover goes, I agree it’s not ideal, but again, as long as we can field XI players Scott won’t be missed. If Varane got injured, we still have Maguire. If all fails we can just out Weghorst in midfield for the handful of games it would require and still be no worse off, as Scott is terrible. He’s really not good enough for Newcastle either, which will become apparent after his inevitable bright start there.
He’s not good enough long term. Tempting to hold on to him right now because our squad is fairly thin and we have a lot of games, so we do need a replacement.
But we have to take our chances to move players who aren’t good enough on. We’ve had way too many players hang on way longer than they should over the last few years.
But we have to take our chances to move players who aren’t good enough on. We’ve had way too many players hang on way longer than they should over the last few years.
Have you watched Longstaff at all this season while he’s been a Newcastle regular? He’s definitely better than McTominay. He’s actually quite an accomplished passer for a start.
Sell him now. Of all the midfielders, he's the one that we'll miss the least in terms of footballing skills.
Nowhere near good enough on the ball to even start against the lesser opponents. He's just not the kind of player we need in the middle of the park.
Get something for him when there is an opportunity for once. We gotta be better at selling players.
Nowhere near good enough on the ball to even start against the lesser opponents. He's just not the kind of player we need in the middle of the park.
Get something for him when there is an opportunity for once. We gotta be better at selling players.
No way that we're selling McT this window - our only backups in midfield are him and Fred, and an adequate relpacement would cost at least the same as we're getting for him. We're already short of one midfielder in the squad as is.
McT will perhaps never be good enough to be a sufficient long-term backup to Casemiro but he's good enough for at least 50% of the teams in the PL and should be sellable IF we decide to sell in the summer. In the summer we can hopefully tap into the transfermarket without the financial constraints that we have now..
McT will perhaps never be good enough to be a sufficient long-term backup to Casemiro but he's good enough for at least 50% of the teams in the PL and should be sellable IF we decide to sell in the summer. In the summer we can hopefully tap into the transfermarket without the financial constraints that we have now..
But that should mean you've seen Newcastle play this season and how robust their team is when defending and going hard for a full match. McTominay wouldn't be out of place there, especially of Bruno G is out for an extended amount of time.
Physically and mentally, McTominay will run himself into the ground and run forever, which is what has made Newcastle really difficult to breakdown this season. He doesn't have as much technical ability, but it'll do a job for Newcastle.
I agree, that was my point as to why we should let him go. I don't think he offers anything but a number to our squad right now and he's 26.
He’ll get injured in April and still be here next season as a result. These players get injured right on time to survive every transfer window. Williams and Jones last summer. Feck knows what happened with Tuanzebe. VDBs injury has almost certainly guaranteed he’ll be here next season.
We need to get better at selling. Just cash in and recall Mejbri if we must.
McTominay is not good at defending.
30m + 5m in incentives and they can have him. We will need to ensure we get a loan signing in before we let him go.
That would conveniently also mean they will have to go to Palace and then Southampton in the cup without their main defensive midfielder.
That would conveniently also mean they will have to go to Palace and then Southampton in the cup without their main defensive midfielder.
And only go with 3 true central midfielders across 4+ months with at least 24 matches? Approximately 3 straight weeks with a midweek game.
A thin area is only going to get thinner without McTominay. He should be upgraded if there is a clear upgrade that isn't going to cost a bomb nor throw a fit if they cannot unseat Casemiro.
When you're part of a team that defends well and physically outmatched and outruns squads like Newcastle have done, he'll be fine.
Could be good business, if we were able to get a significantly bigger fee than it would cost to replace him with Tielemans or similar (and maybe even bid for Moukoko). Bit tight though and we would need to replace.
Out of curiosity, can anyone saying McTominay is ‘fine as a squad player’ give an example of 3 PL midfielders they think is NOT good enough to play for Manchester United?
Is it too late to recall Hanibal?
I would rather he stayed, to be honest I consider him a decent squad option. That said, he's not been playing much lately and maybe it's just ETH doesn't rate him. Might be the case.
I thought he will grow old as squad player for us tbh. If he has ambition to be a regular, probably should let him go though. We can live without him, but I think we will pay more for replacement than we get for him (plus the wages).
That probably means we need a Casemiro understudy this summer.
I thought he will grow old as squad player for us tbh. If he has ambition to be a regular, probably should let him go though. We can live without him, but I think we will pay more for replacement than we get for him (plus the wages).
That probably means we need a Casemiro understudy this summer.
We need a Casemiro understudy no matter what happens with McTominay, the only variable here is can we let him go in January or not
We need a poll with monetary options!
And what happens when they have the football?
They don't use their hands...
We've got too many games to be letting a midfielder go in January. Not happening.
So Scott would actually be required to kick it to a high standard? I knew there was a flaw in your theory.
Exactly...EtH has preached since day one about having 2 players for each position. Why would he go against his own words and beliefs at the moment when it's coming into play.
United are skint and even if they get a transfer fee for McTominay now, it's not going to be enough or enough upfront to identify and purchase a legit replacement who is budget friendly.
People asking for a recall of Hannibal aren't paying attention to even the type of player he is and what is needed as a backup/understudy to Casemiro.
Yep, he'd have to pass to a barcode.
I was hoping we can do that next summer, and this year focus on getting a striker and Eriksen replacement. If we need another DM as well, that is too much to do in one window I think (also considering financial aspect).
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