Okay. Now you have a whopping 50m to replace Maguire and Mctominay. I’m sure any old CB and CM from the Championship will do though.
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50m for both would be fine by me, considering Maguires daft wage and McTom's overall averageness.
Do they need to be replaced? We've already bought 1 midfielder this window and rumour has it we are about to secure a second at around 25m or less. Don't think we would need a replacement.
I do think McTominay is worth more than Maguire because his wages are much lower and he's younger. I would take anything above 20M for Maguire and jump at it if we were offered 25M. McTominay maybe 35m to 40M would be nice.
We are close to signing Amrabat for £20m plus add ons. There is your Mctominay replacement. And for a CB as a third choice or even fourth, I’m sure we could find a decent one for around 30m or even less.
They both don’t need replacing, just McTomminay
50M sounds good to me at least.
You aren’t finding a better CB than Maguire for £30m. This is why getting fair value is important. We want to improve our options at CB not worsen them.
What version of Maguire you have been seeing playing for us that makes you think there’s no one below £30m that is better than Maguire?
£60-£70m for both would be a good bit of business for both clubs.
There is no way anyone would offer 40m pounds for a 30 years old on 220k/week salary meme Maguire. We would be lucky to get 30m for him.
I think 25-30m for McTominay is probably reachable. 60m for both of them would be doing great, which we rarely do.
Well if you're in charge then we'd definitely be stuck with Maguire.
Give me some options of CB’s that’s better than Maguire for under £30m.
Maguire is not good enough for a top club like United to start every week, I get that. But let’s not pretend that he wouldn’t look decent at a mid table club. I’d rather keep him as 3rd/4th choice than flog him on the cheap.
I don't think its unreasonable for the club to hold out or even dismiss offers if they aren't valuable. Mctomminay and Maguire both improve West Ham quite considerably that is the objective view. Especially Harry in a team that isn't going to play on the front foot. It's a good thing fans aren't in any authority for negotiations because valuating Maguire at 20-25M is laughable. The bare minimum should be 35M and perhaps 30M for Scott which are fair offers for both players. There's not a cesspool of talent at center half either, City spent the best part of 100M for the one of the top prospects in Europe. Maguire in the right conditions is a defender suitable for a team in the top 10.
Never in a million years is McTominay worth £50m
Guy is absolute shite.
So the guy who is more or less single-handedly shooting Scotland to the Euros is shite....I take it you don't work as a scout ?
I’d rather keep him as 3rd choice than get rid of him for cheap. Who the feck we replacing him with?
But he is fifth choice, not 3rd/4th. Varane, Lisandro, Lindelof and Shaw are all ahead of him. He probably does not need replacing on the first place. Evans can play those 2-3 matches in a season where we have to rest 3 players (or 3 players are injured).
Akanji cost last year 15m or so. There are always good players who do not cost a fortune, assuming that we need such a player.
These two are such Moyes buys.
Nice and safe but also bang average, with little hope for much improvement.
Nice and safe but also bang average, with little hope for much improvement.
I’ll miss Scott. Secured top 4 multiple times with him as a starter. Kept Casemiro out the team for a while at the start of last season. Arguably last season was his best since 19/20. Good finisher.
Good luck to him.
Good luck to him.
Sorry - have a missed us signing a CB? And don’t say Luke Shaw - him playing there in an emergency for any prolonged period of time completely nullifies any thought of attacking threat we have at LB.
Never in a million years is McTominay worth £50m
Guy is absolute shite.
In a world where Rice goes for £105m he is. It should be £40m absolute minimum.
He isn’t 5th choice. Maguire CB with Shaw LB is much better than Shaw CB and Malacia LB.
Akanji deal was fantastic, if we could get that then great. Who’s that player available this season though?
The rumours I've heard are Gallagher, JWP...and McTom.
They can't want all 3 of them...right?
So United would need Chelsea or Southampton to play hardball as I don't think McTom is their first choice.
They can't want all 3 of them...right?
So United would need Chelsea or Southampton to play hardball as I don't think McTom is their first choice.
Maguire isnt our nr3. He is as low as 5th. Varane, Martinez, Lindelöf and Shaw are all infront of him.
So why do you expect a mid table team to pay top dollar, especially when you consider his salary.
Why not say Luke Shaw considering that when both of them were available, with Lindelof and Licha injured, it was Shaw who played as CB and Maguire sat on the bench. It will happen again.
Pretty sure ETH would prefer Malacia/Dalot in the left with Shaw in the center, rather than Maguire in the center and Shaw in the left.
Having him as 5th choice does not make much sense.
When mid table teams are selling players for £105m, I expect them to be able to pay fair value for a player.
First choice england CB maguire don't forget, who does look good for england because they play a similar limited system defensive wise as a lot of mid table clubs. Therefore, if you play to his strengths with a deep line he will look very good. Minimum of 40m, for those saying Scott is trash, that's simply not true. Played as a box to box midfielder he's actually got a lot of quality there. I actually think he's better further up the pitch as more of a goal threat. We should be able to get 40mil for him quite easily. He'd improve a lot of clubs.
I hope the posters in here who value Maguire and McTominay above 30-35m don't complain when they're still here at the end of the window.
McTominay could possibly go for a bit more but Maguire at his age and on his wages, no chance!
We could sell them for a combined 55-70m and bring in Evans and Amrabat for a significant net gain in transfer fee and salaries. This would improve us in my opinion.
McTominay could possibly go for a bit more but Maguire at his age and on his wages, no chance!
We could sell them for a combined 55-70m and bring in Evans and Amrabat for a significant net gain in transfer fee and salaries. This would improve us in my opinion.
Are you serious? Pau torres signed for villa around £30m. Botman last year for Newcastle around the same price. Same for badiashile. Akanji last year for mancity for even half the price. There are players available who you could easily replace Maguire with. Maguire has been piss poor of a signing for us. I don’t think it would be very hard to upgrade him.
Because surely the whole sodding point of selling Maguire is to improve on him and not play your first choice LB at CB meaning Malacia has to play? I’m 99% sure if we sold Maguire ETH would want to replace him. Unless we’re just deciding to have a weaker squad than last year for the lolz.
No, it is not. We played much better with Shaw in the center (and Dalot/Malacia on the left) than with Maguire on the center.
And even if you think it is that way, ETH clearly disagrees considering that he played Shaw there when Maguire was available but Licha and Lindelof were out. So yes, he is definitely a fifth choice under ETH.
And rightly so considering that he is a walking disaster.
We should 100% accept this. Could we get more? Maybe but the risk of them staying because we've asked for too much just isn't worth it.
Mctominay and Maguire have shown they have no place in our style of play. Sell and get replacements who do.
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Evans would be an equal 3rd choice in my opinion.
Give me the players you would sign for under £30m this summer. Pau Torres has fallen off considerably, he’s nowhere near as good as you think he is.
I haven’t once said Maguire was a good signing. Ridiculous fee, ridiculous wages.
You act as if he played Shaw at CB 10 times. That will never be a regular occurrence with Maguire or Lindelof fit.
Why McT? I am surprised how myth about him being dmc is still alive. He is not no6 and never will be. On no8 we have Mount and Eriksen (and Fred if he stays).
With Lindelof no, with Maguire yes.
Source: when Lindelof was available, he played and Shaw stayed on the left. When Maguire was available, Shaw played in the center, Dalot in the left, Maguire on the bench.
Except Maguire also played with Shaw at LB. A handful of times doesn’t mean that’s the way it’s going to be moving forward. Nor should it be.
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