Scott McTominay | Transfer discussion not performance discussion

[Vault Dweller]

If Chelsea want around £45 million for Gallagher then McT is around the same price.

 

[The Boy]

Do you think DeZerbi might fancy McT to replace Caicedo?

No

We already have Dahoud and Ayari who can both play that role.

EDIT: There is also the chance that Caicedo goes nowhere, De Zerbi said there was no agreement to sell him this window and Chelsea haven't come close to our valuation ... but there's a long way to go yet.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Or hold on to him when it was clear several years ago he isn't good enough.

So we should just sell him for any fee? How does that make sense?

 

[Idxomer]

I do not understand how on earth Gallagher is worth 40 mio. or even more? Is it just because he is an English player and usually clubs pay in general more due to this fact or does he really have something? Sorry, but from following his time at Chelsea, I never saw any proper qualities where I thought he could have made an impact. For me he will end up like most of the average players and clubs pay for him 40-50 mio.? So and then here we are sitting and thinking how can we get for Fred and McT each 10-15 mio. We must doing something totally wrong when it comes to selling. Do not get me wrong but I see McT on a similar level like Gallagher only with the difference that the latter may play both (offensive/defensive).

It doesn't make sense to me either. Gallagher is a lot like Lingard but probably not as good either. The difference is he had his purple patch in front of the goal a bit earlier in his career.

I do think we can get 20-25m for McTominay, maybe a bit more but there needs to be a serious desire from him to leave.

 

[Sir Chapman]

The problem is that our players mentioned is considered bench warmers. They haven't played and exceled in a while therefore their market value plumets. If McTominay would have been a starter at say West Ham, a starter in the Scottish side and played 30+ games a season his value would easily been around the same value as Gallagher. Now his considered a bit of a failure and therefore the bids a more of a "we can help you and your club with this donation"-kind of offers. Sad, but that is the market of today.

I agree with that in general, however, during the two seasons 20/21 and 21/22, McT was basically a fix starter and played most of the games for 90 minutes since we did not really have many options left. So even during this two seasons where he played many games and, let's say, put a good performance, I do not think we would have been able to sell him for the amount Chelsea is requiring for Gallagher. I just think clubs are got used that we overpay for players but on the other hand receive underestimates values for our own players, and this is something our club needs to take a very deep look at it. Taking a look at Chelsea and seeing how many players they sold where I personally think, they are not even worth that money, shows their good approach of selling.

It doesn't make sense to me either. Gallagher is a lot like Lingard but probably not as good either. The difference is he had his purple patch in front of the goal a bit earlier in his career.

I do think we can get 20-25m for McTominay, maybe a bit more but there needs to be a serious desire from him to leave.

Definitely, I sure hope we can get for him 25 mio., and think he may be a great fit for a club like West Ham.

 

[Ace of Spades]

McTominay should be worth as much as 40m at least. I know people don't like him, but he will be worth his value for clubs like West Ham. He is a very versatile player, has goals in him, is physically robust, especially if you play a more direct style.

 

[Gerald G]

£30m and they can take him

 

[edgecutter]

So we should just sell him for any fee? How does that make sense?

We could end up with a lingard situation and he leaves on a free in a few years. It's debatable if he's good enough for our bench and now is the time to get something for him while his stock is somewhat high and clubs are interested.

 

[CM]

We need to be getting West Ham on the phone asking them to make a similar bid to the one Chelsea have turned down for Gallagher.

 

[sglowrider]

We could end up with a lingard situation and he leaves on a free in a few years. It's debatable if he's good enough for our bench and now is the time to get something for him while his stock is somewhat high and clubs are interested.

I am sure Lingard is a cautionary tale for some of the academy players at United too.

 

[Mainoldo]

He’s better than Gallagher however the valuation might sway towards Gallagher because of age and wages. Similar to how we valued Caicedo higher than Mount.

But easily Mctominay is worth £40m. However I can understand a £50m valuation.

 

[Devil_forever]

We’re not going to be able to sell McT are we? fecking West Ham handing over £50m to Chelsea but want loan deals from us. Every damn time.

 

[arthurka]

CM market is absolutely ridiculous so if Connor is 45m Scott is easily at least 40m.

 

[James35]

I’m resigned to the fact McTominay will be here until his contract ends and leaves on a free.

 

[Santos J]

CM market is absolutely ridiculous so if Connor is 45m Scott is easily at least 40m.

According to some of the West Ham accounts who are usually decent for them, we're asking for £45m.

 

[Skills]

What the feck are people smoking - he's in no way shape or form better than Gallagher. We're talking about a midfielder that struggles to get onto the ball 30 times a game.

Gallagher over the last 2 seasons has almost matched Scott McTominay's career league goal total. 11 goals to McTominays 12 in the last 6 years.

 

[edgecutter]

I am sure Lingard is a cautionary tale for some of the academy players at United too.

We have lost out on selling players by holding onto them for longer than needed. Lingard should have been sold years ago, and now is the time to get rid of Scott when the opportunity arises. He just isn't good enough to be even a squad player.

 

[CM]

He's good enough as a squad player. He's an Scottish international.

The level of disrespect our players get here is disgraceful. I hope none of them read the crap in the Caf.

Embarrassing. None of us know how much they have to sacrifice to get to be a professional footballer. And yet...

Scottish international is hardly the barometer to be a successful player here. There are Championship and SPL footballers in that setup, and probably some from League One.

It's not disrespectful to suggest McTominay isn't good enough to play for Man Utd, it's just the truth. What has sacrifice got to do with anything and how is that different from any other professional footballer? Last time I checked they're fairly well compensated for that.

 

[Borys]

He'd a decent midfielder if he is given a very specific task - break opposition play / run forward with the ball / mark X player / win headers in the box. It's just when he has to think too much, he struggles. He's not a natural midfielder who knows how to move the ball, always looked to me like a CB that is played all-over the pitch because he has versatile skills (but he looks best when facing the game, hence he hides from ball in central area).

I think we can get decent fee for him. He can do a very good job for any non-top team.

 

[Mickeza]

I don’t think we sell him. Amrabat replacing Fred means he can play further forward as a physical advanced 8 where he belongs instead of us trying to shoe horn him into a DM role he doesn’t suit.

 

[Roboc7]

Assuming we sign Amrabat then Mctominay will be sixth choice, if someone offers 30 million I’ve no doubt we’ll move him on.

We have to start selling at the right time and this summer is peak time to sell him, his value will only go down after not playing much next season.

 

[edgecutter]

I don’t think we sell him. Amrabat replacing Fred means he can play further forward as a physical advanced 8 where he belongs instead of us trying to shoe horn him into a DM role he doesn’t suit.

We have Mount and Bruno for that. Why are we keeping a player that should be surplus to requirements?

 

[Castia]

What the feck are people smoking - he's in no way shape or form better than Gallagher. We're talking about a midfielder that struggles to get onto the ball 30 times a game.

Gallagher over the last 2 seasons has almost matched Scott McTominay's career league goal total. 11 goals to McTominays 12 in the last 6 years.

They’re both bang average aren’t they. If Chelsea can get fecking 50m for Gallagher then I’m sure they’ll be laughing.


I’d take 30 for Scotty to be honest.

 

[Nogho]

He’s been used in the wrong position his whole United career. He will thrive if he get’s the chance to play further up the pitch. But the competition for a place higher up the pitch in a team like United is to harsh.
He seems like a good lad, 100% professional. I really hope he will revive his career somewhere else and we get a good chuck of money.

 

[Castia]

I don’t think we sell him. Amrabat replacing Fred means he can play further forward as a physical advanced 8 where he belongs instead of us trying to shoe horn him into a DM role he doesn’t suit.

Or we can get rid because he’s been nothing but bang average for about 5 years?


Time to get rid of of the shite

 

[Siorac]

I am sure Lingard is a cautionary tale for some of the academy players at United too.

Or a massive success story, depending on your viewpoint. He stuck around for almost a decade in and around the first team of Manchester United without possessing any noteworthy talent, getting paid more than handsomely in the process. It's pretty much The Dream for the average youngsters.

 

[Mickeza]

We have Mount and Bruno for that. Why are we keeping a player that should be surplus to requirements?

Oh right. I didn’t realise we weren’t allowed a squad and had to compete with 11 players. My mistake.

 

[Jacob]

Have they progressed from being 'aware of' to 'considering a bid' yet?

 

[Siorac]

So we should just sell him for any fee? How does that make sense?

Maybe not any fee but we shouldn't price him out of a move for some misguided notion of trying to prove a point. Getting 20-25m for someone of McTominay's quality would be amazing; holding out for 40m, like some people suggest, is a surefire way of ending up stuck with him, paying his wages and letting him leave on a free in the end.

 

[romufc]

Maybe not any fee but we shouldn't price him out of a move for some misguided notion of trying to prove a point. Getting 20-25m for someone of McTominay's quality would be amazing; holding out for 40m, like some people suggest, is a surefire way of ending up stuck with him, paying his wages and letting him leave on a free in the end.

Do people realise that saying 40m is just a negotiation tactic? Chelsea said they wanted 80m for Mount when we were first linked.

When West Ham actually put in a bid, we will see, I guarantee you, £30m we would sell.

 

[Berbaclass]

I think Gallagher was really good at palace so would value him a little more. Also 3 years younger.

30-35 is the right price for Scott IMO

 

[sglowrider]

Or a massive success story, depending on your viewpoint. He stuck around for almost a decade in and around the first team of Manchester United without possessing any noteworthy talent, getting paid more than handsomely in the process. It's pretty much The Dream for the average youngsters.

Well, he stuck around too long and when he did want to leave, left for the wrong reasons. Could have gone to West Ham instead of getting the $$$. Short-term gain but now where is he? Almost washed out in his prime years.

 

[Skills]

He’s been used in the wrong position his whole United career. He will thrive if he get’s the chance to play further up the pitch. But the competition for a place higher up the pitch in a team like United is to harsh.
He seems like a good lad, 100% professional. I really hope he will revive his career somewhere else and we get a good chuck of money.

Yeah I'm sure a player who's managed a career haul of 5 assists is going to thrive in the final third.

 

[Skills]

They’re both bang average aren’t they. If Chelsea can get fecking 50m for Gallagher then I’m sure they’ll be laughing.


I’d take 30 for Scotty to be honest.

Gallagher did more in a season at Palace than McTominay will manage at any point in his career.

 

[RedBanker]

If we sell this guy, Fred and Martial, we can still go for Caicedo I feel.

 

[Vault Dweller]

So we should just sell him for any fee? How does that make sense?

Don't even bother mate, seems like some have decided he isn't good enough and get rid regardless of even trying to get the fee that would be right for him.

I'd keep him for depth (yes I'm biased) but if he is to go, then £30-40 million is the benchmark for me.

 

[Judas]

If we sell this guy, Fred and Martial, we can still go for Caicedo I feel.

No chance, I don’t think he’s on our radar due to his price. We’re not spending the money needed to sign him on a midfielder this summer.

 

[RuudTom83]

Out of the trio we would all probably move on (Fred, Donny, McTom) Scotty is probably the one I'd keep or sell last tbh.

 

[Andycoleno9]

I’m resigned to the fact McTominay will be here until his contract ends and leaves on a free.

So you are an optimist then? I am resigned with the fact that he will get new contract next season and stay here until he is 30. He is new Jesse Lingard. Not good enough for the club but a survivor.

 

[Cassidy]

So you are an optimist then? I am resigned with the fact that he will get new contract next season and stay here until he is 30. He is new Jesse Lingard. Not good enough for the club but a survivor.

Doubt that