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Houdini
Could've had two goals today. I like that part of his game.
Ha! Get a load of this guy. He's not gonna shag you.
2nd most touches and did nothing with them. He has a terrible habit of standing directly behind the opposition when our players are looking for an option. Been doing it for years.
Ha simmer down big boy no need to get upset. If he was hiding and contributing nothing to the team wouldn’t Matic and Pogba play in front of him in CM? Or is your tactical nous beyond our current management?Ha! Get a load of this guy. He's not gonna shag you.
2nd most touches and did nothing with them. He has a terrible habit of standing directly behind the opposition when our players are looking for an option. Been doing it for years.
Ha simmer down big boy no need to get upset. If he was hiding and contributing nothing to the team wouldn’t Matic and Pogba play in front of him in CM? Or is your tactical nous beyond our current management?
Do you care to name a few former worse players in your eyes who got as much game time as McTominay or were handed as big a role as he is in the regular starting 11?I have seen so many worse players than Mctomminay play for United even during our title and CL winning years.
Fans will try to pick and analyse players simply because we are not winning things yet as a way of trying to highlight our weaknesses.
Good player that I enjoy watching for United.
Do you care to name a few former worse players in your eyes who got as much game time as McTominay or were handed as big a role as he is in the regular starting 11?
Name a few who got as much game time as McTominay or were handed as big a role as he is in the regular starting 11
Jesper Blomquist, Mikael Silvestre, Alan Smith, Marcos Rojo, Brian McClair, Anderson. I'm sure there are plenty more.
Cleverley during SAF's title win. Anderson (who I rated but who was not entirely consistent and had a very specialist type of gameplay as a midfielder).
Oshea, P Neville,butt and Fletcher were useful players that were useful in one or few specific season after many average ones or were useful in couple of average games only in a season.
I find Mctomminay better and it's not his fault that the world class players around him are not as good or as settled as they used to be.
Manchester United: Scott McTominay latest great Scot for club says Sir Alex Ferguson
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56846136
Blomquist was a proper squad player, he was never entrusted with as big a role as McTominay is now. Surely the same can be said about the rest. Rojo's longest run in the starting 11 for instance came under Mourinho (and he partnered Phil Jones more than anyone else that season-2016/17 IIRC so that says a lot) and it never went past ten games. The most appearances he had in a single league campaign was 17 if memory serves me right.
These are the surely the worst examples you can come up with. O'Shea was a very useful utility player with real ability that sometimes even shocked some supporters. He's among the best squad players this club has ever had. Butt was more than useful and at one point in his career he was considered one of the best English midfielders. He had an amazing campaign at the 2002 world cup and he earned many plaudits (finally) from rival fans. All those players played roles towards uniteds success under Fergie
Fergie has never really been one to shy away from the occasional hyperbolic statements. I won't forget him praising Evans and Jones to the high heavens
How many games has McTominay ever played in a row then?
What matters more is the minutes he's accrued. McTominay has 43 apps this season in all competions for united and a total of 3188 mins or 35.42 full matches. Rojo achieved his highest season numbers at 2385 mins/26.5 full matches in 2016/17 and the closest he came to that in any other season was 1563 mins in his first season here (2014/15).
Fred by comparison has been given 2737 mins/30.41 full games this season thus far which is less than his best haul at United last season of 2855/31.7 full games. He's on track to best last seasons numbers of course but McTominay is still expected to end up with the most minutes from our central mids fitness withstanding. Maguire has only played 9 full games more, Lindelof 4
Right so assume Anderson wasn't a fat feck with no lungs who had to be subbed after 60 mins every game, look at his starts, did he have seasons where he made as many as McTominay?
Didn’t Jose say the times he spoke to SAF he always used to tell him to play Mctominay more
Right so assume Anderson wasn't a fat feck with no lungs who had to be subbed after 60 mins every game, look at his starts, did he have seasons where he made as many as McTominay?
I kind of dont agree with people thinking he is this average squad player just because he should be rotated around like most of our players have been or should be.
He reminds me of being alot better than alot of the current Liverpool midfielders were at the same age and much better than alot of the United players that SAF used to choose as some of his rotatable midfielders.
I mean I've not given up on VDB at all but is Mctomminay being better than him something little to talk about? I'd have Scott over Veron or Anderson or Cleverely or an injury prone Hargreaves (except his CL winning season), Butt, Obi Mikel, Djemba Djemba, Schneiderlin, Fletcher (except one wonder season in his prime), Fellaini - who were all around title winning teams for us.
People wont agree on alot of the players I mentioned but thats okay. I enjoy watching Mctomminay more than I enjoyed watching alot of these other midfielders. I know it's a
genuinely thing that people push aside as a cringe excuse but I honestly think that people view him as this Scottish guy with not much technique to his play. If he was a Belgian lad coming through our ranks he would be more highly rated for his strengths, defensive contribution, aerial play, ability to play box to box and score a great long goal.
I really value him and dont think we need this great box to box midfielder because he can do that role for a top club like ours.
Nope. Not a single season with as many starts as McTominay has got under his belt this season.
Veron at his worst with United is still better than what Mctominay ever did at United, Butt was very similar to Roy Keane as both were combative and ball winning midfielders, with Scholes being redeployed as Midfielder, Butt didn't get to play much but was always an excellent stand in to Roy Keane (for example Butt played in 99 UCL final).
But I agree with your sentiment in general, that we do not need a B2B as we have Mctominay for that.
Does he actually win the ball well? Anyone have the stats?
Hyperbolic statement of 2021.
Thanks for that. Yeah i agree he's not a defensive midfielder and doesn't really win the ball back well.Well, kind of but he also gives lot of fouls away. Which is not a good idea to be DM, more suitable as box to box.
they look pretty even. Would be amusing to drop 70mill on RiceWell, kind of but he also gives lot of fouls away. Which is not a good idea to be DM, more suitable as box to box.