Aye maybe a bit much but think he has had some good performances this season, Leeds being the standout. I can’t recall them of the top of my head but remember a lot of people praising him in match day threads. His passing does need working on but he is gradually improving that, now I’m not claiming he’s a world beater I think going forward we need to sign a top quality DM and use Scott as a squad player but right now we have to use what’s available and he’s our best option as Matic can’t play every game. Once we get Pogba back along side him who can dictate the play and let him concentrate on what he’s good at things will look a lot better.
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Aye maybe a bit much but think he has had some good performances this season, Leeds being the standout. I can’t recall them of the top of my head but remember a lot of people praising him in match day threads. His passing does need working on but he is gradually improving that, now I’m not claiming he’s a world beater I think going forward we need to sign a top quality DM and use Scott as a squad player but right now we have to use what’s available and he’s our best option as Matic can’t play every game. Once we get Pogba back along side him who can dictate the play and let him concentrate on what he’s good at things will look a lot better.
Saying he's like Fellani is overly harsh, he's a much better player. Better technically, better at beating and man, better long shots, better industry. Fellani was more like a lump of a CF ratherb than a true midfielder.
I think he is clearly better than players like Fletcher, Anderson and Cleverley of the past, players that were used in Title winning teams. You do to I'm sure - but ultimately blaming Mctomminay for not being a top class player that's perfect at everything is unfair. It's not his fault that we have such few world/top class players in the squad to the point that Mctomminay is being used as a regular starter.
I personally love the lad because he is dedicated to United and will happily play as a squad rotation player when that time comes.
United right now have very specific players with individual abilities anyway so for him to have his own individual ability that he shines at within the squad is useful - ie his physicality.
Personally I saw nothing with Henderson until Klopp managed him, so it gives me hope that Mctomminay has looked a better at a more youthful/similar age under Ole- arguably a manager that many believe gives no coaching.
I don't think it's that harsh to be honest. Mctominay is definitely more of a CM than Fellaini and much better in that role, but is somewhat similarly not quite a true CM - his passing is really poor, he's often clumsy and really basic in tight spaces and a lot of his strengths are to do with his physique and shooting. Like I said, I don't mind him as an option but you can't build a really high quality team with CMs with such limited technical qualities.
Fletcher was excellent and far better than Mctominay. His touch and passing were on a different level. He didn't have the same physicality but had much more of what you want from a CM. I mean, using Cleverley as a reference point for a 'title winning CM' will lead us to mid table obscurity. And again we can use Henderson as reference to big up any young player who doesn't have a lot of ability. We can also use Vardy as a reason to sign rubbish strikers who won't suddenly become class PL level CFs. But that's presumptuous. On Anderson we only won titles with him due to SAF and him being backup in the early years. He was all about potential and his was immense. But he didn't live up to it.
I don't think Mctominay is bad. But I think we need much better and he should be used as an option.
Fair enough that's your opinion but I didnt see much out of Fletcher until he got significantly older. Another player that I think Mctomminay outshines him age for age.
Scores important goals and helps out defensively to make him a box to box type player. I think if he wasnt a box to box type player and he was more all rounded defensively to hold CDM positions by himself or attacking enough to play long balls as well as Pogba at CM then he would be viewed a bit better maybe in some fans eyes.
A box to box midfielder is useful and dont tend to hold their position in deep midfield, have amazing passing or close control (which I think Mctomminay does have) etc until they maybe in their old ages.
Talking about energy, physicality, end product and mentality widely describes a box to box midfielder in my opinion rather than say a more CDM who has the ability to play passes,vision, holding his position like a CDM who is a deep lying playmaker.
Am I the only one who thinks he’s actually quite good in tight spaces? Think he’s good at dropping a shoulder and dribbling his way out of trouble at times, although he was quite poor against Chelsea at times I thought.
I think it too. I think he is good at dribbling in tight spaces. The only time is slightly changes is when we get widely defensive as a team and he doesnt break out on to a run as much.
Definitely, one of his biggest strengths I think, well anything related to ball carrying really. Was poor against Chelsea though as you say but I very much doubt he was 100% fit.
Maybe you didn't see how Fletcher dominated Pirlo and Ronaldinho and made premier league team of the season?
He wasn’t great against Chelsea but he was just back from injury, he’s been having a good season though. Some top performances in there and the guy’s a goal threat, has a really good shot on him the exact opposite of Fred.
He’s been having a mixed season. He’s had a good month though. He’s a good player, has improved a lot and happy he’s here.
In generations gone by, he’d probably have been just about enough to be a long term regular for United in the PL. However, I think he just falls short by the current standards. The level has gone up considerably in 15-20 years. I’m not sure how many of you have MUTV - but when I watch old games from the 90s, you can just see that the average team we’d come across had real no marks in the main. Quality below the top end was far lower. Teams like Wolves with top Portuguese internationals and top coaches didn’t exist in midtable.
In this era, Scott is just a little short, but a useful player no less.
He’s one of those players who gets praised for doing the bare minimum like completing a five yard pass and running around.
The double standard for him & Pogba is actually ridiculous considering both are starting centre midfielders for Manchester United. If they put in the exact same performance, Scott would be massively praised & Paul would be massively criticised. I guarantee it.
The double standard for him & Pogba is actually ridiculous considering both are starting centre midfielders for Manchester United. If they put in the exact same performance, Scott would be massively praised & Paul would be massively criticised. I guarantee it.
I didnt say he was crap. I rate fletcher. However I'm seeing Mctomminay perform better than Fletcher up until the 2009 year - by that time he had 6 years of break through to slowly build himself up. 2 years of key performances before he started to go a sligtly downhill after.
Mctomminay has been keeping players like Pogba out of the first team when playing alongside Fred and I value that. The team has looked better with him arguably more than one of the worlds most expensive midfielders.
One doesn’t cost 80 million and is older so I can understand why people are less harsh
I think the difference has been that when pogba has a bad game he looks disinterested and doesn't work while opposition walks through us. Mctominay has bad games due to lack of ability but always works hard.
I don't think mctominay is good enough for united and I think pogba definitely is however people see games differently and most pundits can't stand lack of effort and hence different criticism for bad games.
Also if I was pogba I'd be disappointed if the same level of performance was expected of me as mctominay, he surely has to believe he's of a higher standard
They both start for us. Pogba didn’t price himself. And Scott is 24, he should be judged as a senior player approaching his peak. Being praised for running around is something you would expect to see for a 16 year old making his debut.
That true but they won't be judged with same standards. Pogba is insanely talented so people always come up with "he can do better".
I always said people judge Pogba way too harshly as the expectations on him are so unrealistic.
Pogba does no defensive work in comparison to Mctomminay. Arguably Scott is a better goal scorer too or at the very least equal to Paul Pogba the united player, this can be seen from this season. The one main thing that Pogba is better at that Scott is his passing abilities. Mctomminay has more work rate and energy aswell. Pogba's dribbling is nothing to write home about and isnt anything amazing when beating a press in my opinion and maybe the same with Scott. Pogba's creative ability makes him more well rounded and a required player against certain sides. Likewise Scott is needed in certain games because he offers something Pogba will not.
The difference is quite clear, really. Pogba is our record signing and highest paid player. You invest such money in a top player who is a starter and should perform regularly at the highest level.
McT came through the academy (so no transfer fee) and starts more games than he should because of a lack of other options. If we had a younger Matic who wouldn’t look like a statue every time he plays 3 games in a row, then McT wouldn’t be playing that much.
No idea why people bring up Pogba every time when comparing other players. The difference in expectations are clear for everyone to see.
If we buy Sancho or Grealish for around 100 mil then they will also be expected to perform much better than McFred, Amad, Shola or Greenwood.
Is there anything PP better at than McT other than his passing ability (which matters to be fair)? Serious question...
Dribbling I would say and shot. In fairness Pogba is a more talented player but he is not as hard working as Mctominay imo
Isn't he our highest scoring midfielder this season?
Dribbling is fair I think. Shot I am not too sure, I think McT is better.
There’s this Bruno fella...
There is perhaps a certain type of shot Scott can strike better than PP. he can strike them true and clean from range. But PP can bend them, volley them and strike them with his left foot to a higher standard.
Scott is a clean striker and has a particular controlled technique on lock. He couldn’t score the goal PP scored against West Ham though. I think PP has a bigger range of shooting. Scott is probably the best at powerful, straight shots at the club though.
The biggest difference is I think Scott means it more when he shoots. I don’t think PP has the mentality of a goalscorer.
That's Pogba's fault because he weren't on it. Its not because he is superior. Pogba is an enigma and till this day we don't know his best role. Lingard has played ahead of Pogba before and Fellaini in the past. Its not indicative of anything other than Pogba's faults. The manager is probably desperate for an upgrade on Scott
Crystal Palace 0:0 Man Utd
Scott was quite good for the first 5 minutes he came on, looked like he was going to try to drive us forward. Completely drifted out of the match after that though and Palace actually seemed to get more control than they had previously.
Man City 0:2 Man Utd
Another good performance in a big game from Scott.
Was always going to be hard to play in midfield vs City on the ball but thought he was outstanding defensively
He practically gave Martial easiest chance to score ever.
In the second half yes. Didnt think he was in the game at all first half.
Outside of some very poor passes in the first half which I was screaming at him at - had a very good for what he was in there for.
Thought he was amazing today
Excellent and calm under their pressing.
Monster presence.
He's not great at passing and that was evident again but you have to respect the fact he kept dropping between the CB''s to recieve the ball and he acted as a strong 3rd CB for large portions of the game.
Yeah agree to this.
Some of his composure and that turn late in the 2nd half with 2/3 City players pressing him on the edge of our penalty box was sublime.
Up and down games with lots of transitions massively suit McFred.
At times, it seems like he'd be a better CB than a DM.
Big game player. Thought he was brilliant.
Cheeky little turn when under pressure. Love Scott, he's very dependable.
Think he would look much better in a midfield with the likes of Ruben Neves beside him. His strengths are box to box, but he can't really do that when playing beside Fred.
He has much more composure than Fred on the ball, and brings a goal threat that not many of our midfields bring.
He has much more composure than Fred on the ball, and brings a goal threat that not many of our midfields bring.
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