Is this guy actually any good? Seen him linked to a couple of bigger clubs over the summer but cant say I've noticed him much up to now.
Scott Dann to Arsenal
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He is good. But not top 4. Would be good for a 6-10 club.
He was the best defender at Brum...take from that what you will.
It's like Chris Samba. Good defender and all, but when you play for a mid-bottom level team there are more opportunities to defend well and the mistakes you make aren't amplified as much. With Arsenal there will be a spot light on him from the start.
Think he'll do ok considering they have Scalacci (sp?) and Koschelney (sp?) who are both pretty average defenders.
It's like Chris Samba. Good defender and all, but when you play for a mid-bottom level team there are more opportunities to defend well and the mistakes you make aren't amplified as much. With Arsenal there will be a spot light on him from the start.
Think he'll do ok considering they have Scalacci (sp?) and Koschelney (sp?) who are both pretty average defenders.
I remember a few resident gooners slating Samba and Cahill when they were linked with Arsenal so I can't imagine they'll be salivating over this potential transfer.
A Birmingham fan I know said he's potentially top class and he seems to think he'd do well for a top side. Said he's been outstanding for Birmingham and made Roger Johnson look a good player. I think tahst fair comment as Birmingham were decent at the back - just couldnt score any goals.
I'd say he's been as good as Gary Cahill who seems to be target for top clubs - and a lot cheaper probably.
Yeah, I reckon he'd be a really good signing for them.
I'm not sure who they think they're going to get.
There's a dearth of top centre backs who would be affordable for a club like Arsenal.
At least he's a defender.
He's a very good defender, interesting that Arsenal are starting to get British talent in.
They may be right. He did look good for Birmigham so I wouldn't count it out.
To be fair when you look at the stats Birmingham did ok in defence, they conceded 58 goals, Blackpool 78 and West Ham 70 (the other teams relegated obviously). In fact Brum conceded less than the 3 teams that finished above them and avoided relegation (including Blackburn, home of Phil Jones), so maybe their defence wasn't so bad.
Their strikers on the otherhand... worst in the league.
Their strikers on the otherhand... worst in the league.
Id have gone for Shawcross instead. Maybe pool will
Yeah, but in fairness Brum were setup to not leak goals. They were very negative both home and away. Plus they had Foster in goal who is probably the best out of those 4-5 teams at the bottom. All those factors make them look the most solid defensively out of all those other teams.
Shawcross isn't as good as Dann IMO.
I think Wenger's done this to get some much needed mental strength in the team. Dann knows what it's like to play in Carling Cup final, and not completely bottle it. About time the Arsenal team bought someone who knows how to win trophies.
I think Wenger's done this to get some much needed mental strength in the team. Dann knows what it's like to play in Carling Cup final, and not completely bottle it. About time the Arsenal team bought someone who knows how to win trophies.
Looked in a different class to Shawcross and Samba but would still be surprised to see Arsenal go in for him.
Yep all valid points.
I think people need to consider, when looking at players like Cahill, Samba and (maybe) Dann, to a similar extent Parker, Barton and people like that, that the style of the team they're in is often a bit negative, how often are they actually exposed or left isolated?
Though I agree with most of those, I can't help but think West Ham never really particularly struck me as "negative". I quite remember actually thinking a couple of times that their troubles were often a result of them being too "open". But I might be wrong.
He's cheap. End of.
Arsene is a cheapskate.
Arsenal fans get ripped off every time they go watch Arsenal.
Arsene is a cheapskate.
Arsenal fans get ripped off every time they go watch Arsenal.
He used to play for Køge.
How did Brum's defensive record change when he got injured? I don't recall it getting noticeably worse. It was scoring goals that was their problem.
26 goals in 27 with him and 40 in 22 without, from a quick glance.
I meant in the league.
Ah, then it's 18 in 21 with, 33 in 17 without.
Good player, will definately make their defence better which is a positive.
Dannish ancestry?
Thanks. My initial instinct was incorrect then it seems.
Shawcross to Arsenal......oh yeah
He is better than what they have already got! He could do a good job for them.
Bleh
Any decent defenders would be good for them.
Was shit last season. Couldn't even make the bench.
I classify a top 4 defender as: Intelligent before brute.
I classify the rest of the league's defenders as: Brutes before intelligence.
Of course you have your John Terrys that wiggle their way in, but for the most part, the defenders needs to have brains and composure. The lower teams only require you get the ball and blast it up to their target forward. However, the other teams play out from the back. That's why Rio and now Vidic (and soon to be Smalling who is getting exceptional at this) are so great. They don't rely on tackling, but are quite capable of it when called for. And it's because they read the game and intercept.
Dann is alright, Arsenal are in need of bite and someone who can actually stay healthy. He'll be good, not great.
I classify the rest of the league's defenders as: Brutes before intelligence.
Of course you have your John Terrys that wiggle their way in, but for the most part, the defenders needs to have brains and composure. The lower teams only require you get the ball and blast it up to their target forward. However, the other teams play out from the back. That's why Rio and now Vidic (and soon to be Smalling who is getting exceptional at this) are so great. They don't rely on tackling, but are quite capable of it when called for. And it's because they read the game and intercept.
Dann is alright, Arsenal are in need of bite and someone who can actually stay healthy. He'll be good, not great.
I don't personally think JT is the greatest ever defender, but he's so underrated on the caf it's untrue. It's almost as if people think he's a midtable defender. He isn't.
Dear Arsene,
Please don't sign Scott Dann,
Love from Alastair.
Please don't sign Scott Dann,
Love from Alastair.
Isn't it true that you do not rate Phil Jones? This is confusing, because he is like a John Terry clone.
Who do you think Wenger should sign? Or maybe you don't think you need a defender?
I don't think Phil Jones has played enough games for anyone to label him a clone of anyone to be honest.
We need a left-back first and foremost. Quite why we weren't in for Enrique is beyond me. He's nothing special, but he's useful.