Alex99
Rehab's Pete Doherty
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@MasterDarcy he said struggling to find "top flight players", and a quarter of your squad was from the Championship, so yes, it fit the bill. Outside of that, a chunk of Scotland's "top flight" players are from the not so great Scottish Premiership plus one from Saudi.
And I agree, you could fill your quota of "players playing at the top level" with players from middling and bottom clubs in those leagues. For example, a striker that's scored one goal in 34 Premier League appearances for Bournemouth, or a defender who is a squad player at Everton, or, to go abroad, a midfielder plying his trade at Bologna. But that's the Scotland squad.
Outside of Pickford at Everton and Henderson from Saudi, the lowest England were going for players was Chelsea in 12th and Palace in 11th (from last season). The rest were from clubs that either qualified for Europe or were competing for places until the very last day of the season. That, or we got them from AC Milan, Bayern Munich or Real Madrid.
You're taking offence at things that haven't been said. Scotland have had a great qualifying campaign so far, and are well worth their place in the next Euros. I didn't see anything above that said they weren't, just that you'd expect England to be heavy favourites in a match against them, which they should be. Those other two results were disappointing on England's part. They were still heavy favourites for them.
I'd expect that selection of players I listed to still be favourites against Scotland, yes.
As I said, you're getting offended by things that haven't been said. Scotland, when compared to England, objectively do scramble around to find top flight players for their squad, as evidenced by a quarter of their squad being from the Championship, and a good chunk of their top flight players being from "lesser" leagues or lower clubs in top leagues.
It's beside the point, but I don't necessarily disagree with your assessment of England either, at least not with Southgate in charge. And yeah, they likely will drop off when Kane goes because this has been the best England side in ages, and it'd be unrealistic to expect them to maintain the level. They'll still be favourites in a match against Scotland though.
France had more players missing than I remembered, but Pogba was no loss and Maignan certainly wasn't first choice goalkeeper. I'm not sure Nkunku was a guaranteed starter either. This is, again, all beside the point though. I think most would have favoured reigning world champions France above England during that tournament.
And I agree, you could fill your quota of "players playing at the top level" with players from middling and bottom clubs in those leagues. For example, a striker that's scored one goal in 34 Premier League appearances for Bournemouth, or a defender who is a squad player at Everton, or, to go abroad, a midfielder plying his trade at Bologna. But that's the Scotland squad.
Outside of Pickford at Everton and Henderson from Saudi, the lowest England were going for players was Chelsea in 12th and Palace in 11th (from last season). The rest were from clubs that either qualified for Europe or were competing for places until the very last day of the season. That, or we got them from AC Milan, Bayern Munich or Real Madrid.
You're taking offence at things that haven't been said. Scotland have had a great qualifying campaign so far, and are well worth their place in the next Euros. I didn't see anything above that said they weren't, just that you'd expect England to be heavy favourites in a match against them, which they should be. Those other two results were disappointing on England's part. They were still heavy favourites for them.
I'd expect that selection of players I listed to still be favourites against Scotland, yes.
As I said, you're getting offended by things that haven't been said. Scotland, when compared to England, objectively do scramble around to find top flight players for their squad, as evidenced by a quarter of their squad being from the Championship, and a good chunk of their top flight players being from "lesser" leagues or lower clubs in top leagues.
It's beside the point, but I don't necessarily disagree with your assessment of England either, at least not with Southgate in charge. And yeah, they likely will drop off when Kane goes because this has been the best England side in ages, and it'd be unrealistic to expect them to maintain the level. They'll still be favourites in a match against Scotland though.
France had more players missing than I remembered, but Pogba was no loss and Maignan certainly wasn't first choice goalkeeper. I'm not sure Nkunku was a guaranteed starter either. This is, again, all beside the point though. I think most would have favoured reigning world champions France above England during that tournament.