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Schweinsteiger or Modric
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You notice I went for plasma and not LCD or LED. I didn't want to get greedy.
All about keeping it realistic.
I think i'm the only one who don't really rate Schweinsteiger. Just a solid player who does nothing fanciful and put in a 6/6.5/7 out of 10 every game, or maybe he's German that's why he's rated very highly. He's a terrific athlete though
Meanwhile Modric had a fantastic game against the Spanish midfield last night
Meanwhile Modric had a fantastic game against the Spanish midfield last night
Schweini is the dogs bollocks does it week in week out. Modric played well last night but he is no schwein
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OT but curious what the newer LED/LCD kids have to say about the quality & motion blur with football...I want to get a sexy LED but never seen them display football better than a Plasma
Is this some sort of joke? Schweinsteiger is comfortably the better of the two, by a long distance.
Schweinsteiger in a heartbeat.
What??? Like who?
Mertesacker is anything but impressive. Ballack was a shadow of his Bayern or Leverkusen days. Didi Hamann, are you joking? Huth was a joke at Chelsea, mediocre with Boro, and has become decent with Stoke. Reidle, not impressive, Hitzleberger, blah, Ziege as well.
Klinsman for a year, yes, and Lehman was too much of a kook to mentally adapt anywhere. Who are all these Germans who've adapted so well to the PL? Ferguson has certainly never been impressed by them.
I'd take a proven Modric one time.
Schweinsteiger would be a zillion times better than Modric. Ballack mostly failed at Chelsea as they only bought him to piss us off and they played him out of position. The only other Germans who have played in the PL were bargain second rate level and were never important members of National team. The fact is that the cream of the crop in Germany either go to Bayern or recently Dortmund or else Madrid!
For Germany in tournaments maybe.....at club level, not so much, despite the fact, it's essentially the same team. They are pretty equal all in all, but Modrics proven in the Premiership, Schweinsteiger shouldn't really struggle though....either way, one isn't leaving his home town team, ones available.
Different league ability wise? Are you normal? Modric has probably got more ability if anything - Schweinsteiger would probably be the better bet because he is more complete.
I struggle to think of a single facet of Modric's game that is superior to Schweinsteiger's. The latter has a better engine, is better defensively, works harder, is a better passer, is much more of a leader on the field, scores more frequently (last 4 seasons: roughly 1 in 7 vs 1 in over 9), is stonger/more powerful, is far, far more consistent and is proven at European level. Schweinsteiger is the best player at one of the top 3-4 teams in the world, Modric is arguably the best at Spurs.
If it were made known that Schweinsteiger were available every top team in Europe would be sniffing around, probably at double the figure being touted for Modric.
/Edit: This isn't even taking into consideration how each would fit into out team.
Schweinsteiger's a more complete player as he is better defensively, not gonna dispute that. Modric is far more creative, a much better passer - both 1-touch, long range and through passes. That's not really a big difference in terms of goals, but I wouldn't really say Schweinsteiger's much more prolific either.
Arguably the best (or top 3) midfielder in the Prem over the last 3 seasons.You're hyping Schweinsteiger massively here. He is great, and a great all round player but in terms of all-round ability, no WAY is he in a different league, which is what you said originally.
Of course people here(or anywhere really) generally overhype Schweinsteiger, they see him regularly only every 2 years where Germany bulldoze their way through anyone that aren't Spain, and then briefly in CL games between that whereas you see Modric every week.
I can tell you for a fact Schweinsteiger isn't half as consistent for Bayern as he is for Germany, but neither is the team as a whole, so it's not just on him, he's a great player, just below the elite of the elite in midfield(who are pretty much all Spanish anyway), him and Modric are pretty much par right now. One just plays in a better team than the other.
Kroos has been more impressive this season for Bayern too, and with him not playing a great deal in the Euros, if we were to try and tempt anyone from Bayern, it would be him, considering he's 6/7 years younger.
I can tell you for a fact Schweinsteiger isn't half as consistent for Bayern as he is for Germany, but neither is the team as a whole, so it's not just on him, he's a great player, just below the elite of the elite in midfield(who are pretty much all Spanish anyway), him and Modric are pretty much par right now. One just plays in a better team than the other.
Kroos has been more impressive this season for Bayern too, and with him not playing a great deal in the Euros, if we were to try and tempt anyone from Bayern, it would be him, considering he's 6/7 years younger.
Schweinsteiger. Both are absolutely quality players but he's more of what we need.
You're hyping Schweinsteiger massively here. He is great, and a great all round player but in terms of all-round ability, no WAY is he in a different league, which is what you said originally.
I wouldn't say he's the best Premier League midfielder over the last 3 seasons. Fabregas was far superior 09-11, Silva and Toure have been superior 10-12 (the former creatively, the latter all round). It's a shame about Wilshere's injury, as if he carried on his form from 10-11 he'd be above Modric. If we are comparing over a shorter period of time (6-12 months) I'd put Carrick and Scholes last season above.
It is quite telling however that Modric is now in the top 5-6 central midfielder's in the Country. As much a testament to the lack of talent in this area in the Premier League in recent times (which probably as much as anything contributes to the hype surrounding him) as anything else.
You could well be right about his lack of consistency in the League. But the fact is he seems to step up and lead his team in every important game I've seen him play, whether in the Champions League or Internationally. I certainly don't think being a big game player is a bad thing, even if it is at the expense of some consistency (every top player can't be freaks week in, week out like Ronaldo/Messi).
Unless the elite of the elite in central midfield consist of only Xavi and Iniesta, then the German is definitely in the top bracket.
Neither.....but I'm desperate for a midfielder right now so I'll take whatever's going.
Kroos
Mertesacker was good before he got injured. Lehmann was a very good keeper for us too.
Did Ferguson not want Ballack, but he chose Chelsea's money instead?
Both would comfortably walk into our midfield, shame there is little to no chance we will be signing either.
vuc backing up a player whose name ends in "ic" shocker.
Mertesacker is an average CB who doesn't fit into Arsenal's way of playing. Koscielny and Vermaelen are both better defenders, possibly Djorou too.
Lehmann was a good keeper, albeit slightly crazy.
Jurgen Klismann yo. And Didi.
Are you serious? Cause I didn't take you for being a knob.
I said top 3. In the last 3 seasons, not many have been better. I wonder how good Modric would be too in Man City's team. Put them ahead by what measure? Looking in the Modric thread, he made more interceptions than Carrick, and a shit load more key passes.
We're not going to agree here, and we're veering away from what you originally said which is Schweinsteiger being in a 'different league' ability wise.
I was joking vuc although there is an element of truth in what I said
Why is there? What have I said wrong - Modric is class, he is a Croat but he is class and I recognise that as do lots of people on this forum.
You can't really compare Silva with Modric, that's pretty unfair, they have the similar 'roles' in their teams, but Silva very rarely plays in the middle and couldn't play as deep as Modric does, he has more to his attacking game that Modric has(or at least shown so far on a consistent basis, possibly due to never having such players like Villa and Mata and who Silva has at City and Spain with him), but he's got more to his overall game, thus being a potential answer to our midfield worries.
Modric is probably only second to Fabregas in terms of overall game for midfielders in the Prem recently, though another great season from Yaya will put him right in there too, but again, Yaya and Fabregas playing in better teams. It's no surprise to see Madrid looking at Modric to replace Khedira though.
Modric is probably only second to Fabregas in terms of overall game for midfielders in the Prem recently, though another great season from Yaya will put him right in there too, but again, Yaya and Fabregas playing in better teams. It's no surprise to see Madrid looking at Modric to replace Khedira though.