I DO NOT want Rice. That signing scares me because its partly our passing in midfield that's the problem
Saul Niguez, Yea Or Nay
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Yeah his passing is my biggest concern as well but clearly United don't seem to share that worry for some reason
Have I been watching a different Rice to quite a few on here? The way his passing is spoken about with sheer panic and disdain you'd think he was some conference level clogger.
If he's not press-proof or good in ariel duels then he's not for us
Think I'd prefer Tielemans to Niguez but I think Tielemans is off to Liverpool.
I wouldn't say no to Niguez though. I think West Ham will ask too much for Rice, unless we can use Jesse to get a good deal.
I wouldn't say no to Niguez though. I think West Ham will ask too much for Rice, unless we can use Jesse to get a good deal.
He's been average for ages and hasn't fulfilled the enormous potential he once had. He'd be a minor upgrade over our current defensive midfield options but that isn't good enough.
I think Rice is destined to go back to Chelsea. as for Tielemans, I like his ability to control the tempo of the game. Him and a destroyer like Zakaria could work very well behind Bruno. As for Saul, he's technically very sound and appears to be box to box player. I'm not sure that's the type of player we need at the moment. I'd prefer a destroyer and a deep lying playmaker like the Gattuso/ Pirlo combo behind Kaka. Tielemans is only 24 and I'm upset that we didn't get him before Leicester bought him after his loan.
I want him just for the chant potential.
Said United signed motherfecking Saul Niguez
The fee wasn't that high, which will satisfy the Glazers
Controlling games we play all day with Saul Niguez
And we are gonna win everything with Saul Niguez
Saul Niguez, Saul Niguez
Saul Niguez, Saul Niguez
Saul Niguez, Saul Niguez yeah
First things first we love Saul Niguez
Ole's team sheet, first name Saul Niguez
You looking for a six? Let me call Saul Niguez
Or play him on the right, we need Saul Niguez
Saul Niguez spoke spoke, Saul Niguez think think
Saul Niguez signed up, dotted line with ink, ink
Fred can be his back up and we'll play Pogba up top
Sancho is on the right, if Murtough can get his act up
Wanda to Old Trafford switch, yo that's Saul Niguez
He's rippin up the pitch yo that's Saul Niguez
Attacking all the space, yo that's Saul Niguez
Give him the number eight, yeah that's Saul Niguez
Playing out from the back, pass it to Saul Niguez
Hit first time balls yeah that's Saul Niguez
feck them other players cause we've got Saul Niguez
We love Saul Niguez, fecking Saul Niguez
Said United signed motherfecking Saul Niguez
The fee wasn't that high, which will satisfy the Glazers
Controlling games we play all day with Saul Niguez
And we are gonna win everything with Saul Niguez
Saul Niguez, Saul Niguez
Saul Niguez, Saul Niguez
Saul Niguez, Saul Niguez yeah
Have you seen Thomas Partey song?
Yay.
Yay.
Price will have to be lower though.
He is a very good all-rounder who is excellent in the big games.
Price will have to be lower though.
He is a very good all-rounder who is excellent in the big games.
Hes a safe and reliable passer with some range. He's good enough on the ball to go towards being fine and getting the best of his defensive midfielder ability, which is arguably our biggest need.
I want him just for the chant potential.
Said United signed motherfecking Saul Niguez
The fee wasn't that high, which will satisfy the Glazers
Controlling games we play all day with Saul Niguez
And we are gonna win everything with Saul Niguez
Saul Niguez, Saul Niguez
Saul Niguez, Saul Niguez
Saul Niguez, Saul Niguez yeah
First things first we love Saul Niguez
Ole's team sheet, first name Saul Niguez
You looking for a six? Let me call Saul Niguez
Or play him on the right, we need Saul Niguez
Saul Niguez spoke spoke, Saul Niguez think think
Saul Niguez signed up, dotted line with ink, ink
Fred can be his back up and we'll play Pogba up top
Sancho is on the right, if Murtough can get his act up
Wanda to Old Trafford switch, yo that's Saul Niguez
He's rippin up the pitch yo that's Saul Niguez
Attacking all the space, yo that's Saul Niguez
Give him the number eight, yeah that's Saul Niguez
Playing out from the back, pass it to Saul Niguez
Hit first time balls yeah that's Saul Niguez
feck them other players cause we've got Saul Niguez
We love Saul Niguez, fecking Saul Niguez
Said United signed motherfecking Saul Niguez
The fee wasn't that high, which will satisfy the Glazers
Controlling games we play all day with Saul Niguez
And we are gonna win everything with Saul Niguez
Saul Niguez, Saul Niguez
Saul Niguez, Saul Niguez
Saul Niguez, Saul Niguez yeah
You should really Google the word chant
We are not going to buy a CM, are we?...
Why are Madrid looking to get rid so willingly? Is his contract up soon or something?
If Bayern want the player, they’ll get it done. They’re no nonsense with transfers.
Done it seems , Bayern got him for 65M , no-nonsense deal.
Bayern seal €80m Saul deal; Leeds, Liverpool target to replace him (football365.com)
Bayern seal €80m Saul deal; Leeds, Liverpool target to replace him (football365.com)
Saul is a very good utility midfield player but not the type of player we need at the moment, we need more of a DM like Kante or Casemero.
If we ever move for a midfielder this summer it'll be Rice.
Not having a go but when you say he's technically gifted what do you mean? His passing statistics look decidedly average - this can obviously be tolerated if you're playing in advanced areas making risky passes like Bruno Fernandes but is harder to excuse for someone playing deeper and who would be expected to control games for us.
Nothing in the German media on this. I also think he doesn’t see himself as merely a squad option which he would be at Bayern. And Bayern needs to spend in other areas.
He's a excellent passer, as well as and excellent finisher. He's got a great touch and can dribble. i haven't looked at the stats but I could see why they might not be as good as they could be, simeone tends to employ tactics that look for longer passes, passes into channels and switches of play, obviously the stats for someone who is asked to play these kind of passes aren't going to be as high as players in other systems.
Wow. Okay, excited to see who you want for the midfield. Clearly you have no idea when comes to scouting players.
You haven’t watched him. Fred comes out okay in the advanced stats, but is clearly not good enough. Need to start watching games mate.
Like Bruno?
Maybe I would watch him more if he wasn't on the bench half of the time
But of course I've watched him. Not regularly, I doubt anyone here watches atletico regularly because frankly, why would they unless they had some attachment to them? He's a decent midfielder. But he's not a defensive midfielder. He's not a creative midfielder. He's an all action energetic midfielder, who doesn't really excel at anything in particular.
United, the way we're preparing our team, need a proper holding midfielder next to a deep lying playmaker. We need a whole new midfield 2 since neither Fred nor McTominay are good enough. Stylistically Fred is far more of a dictator from deep though, which has literally never been Saul's game. He isn't much of a passer. He's a guy who wins a lot of tackles then is decent at best at most other things. Sure, he'd be an upgrade on McTominay (marginal IMO), while also not suiting that role in the premier league as much as McTominay, and ultimately not being good enough to start in that role for United. Or at least, not what we should want.
I'd love to get Rice for the defensive midfielder spot and then an actual passing midfielder who can control games, progress the ball up the pitch with his passing and not be a disaster/useless defensively (like Pogba, which is why we've stopped trying to play him there). Locatelli is a good shout for that, but there isn't any interest there so whatever. Bennacer is kind of a decent all rounder too who would improve us more. Ruben Neves would improve us more stylistically while not necessarily being good enough either.
Hope this is sarcasm...
No...is it any good?
I originally wanted to keep it brief but didn't want to disrespect YG.
Any confirmation from credible outlets about Saul going to Bayern for €68mil ?
Maybe I would watch him more if he wasn't on the bench half of the time
But of course I've watched him. Not regularly, I doubt anyone here watches atletico regularly because frankly, why would they unless they had some attachment to them? He's a decent midfielder. But he's not a defensive midfielder. He's not a creative midfielder. He's an all action energetic midfielder, who doesn't really excel at anything in particular.
United, the way we're preparing our team, need a proper holding midfielder next to a deep lying playmaker. We need a whole new midfield 2 since neither Fred nor McTominay are good enough. Stylistically Fred is far more of a dictator from deep though, which has literally never been Saul's game. He isn't much of a passer. He's a guy who wins a lot of tackles then is decent at best at most other things. Sure, he'd be an upgrade on McTominay (marginal IMO), while also not suiting that role in the premier league as much as McTominay, and ultimately not being good enough to start in that role for United. Or at least, not what we should want.
I'd love to get Rice for the defensive midfielder spot and then an actual passing midfielder who can control games, progress the ball up the pitch with his passing and not be a disaster/useless defensively (like Pogba, which is why we've stopped trying to play him there). Locatelli is a good shout for that, but there isn't any interest there so whatever. Bennacer is kind of a decent all rounder too who would improve us more. Ruben Neves would improve us more stylistically while not necessarily being good enough either.
Hope this is sarcasm...
I don’t disagree with the middle paragraph. McFred is not a good enough midfield to challenge for major trophies. Both are good squad options.
Regarding Saul, he hasn’t played as much this season due to the emergence of Llorente and formation changes. Still appeared in 41 matches, so you must have been watching Atletico with your eyes closed if you missed him. Before this season, he was in every important match. A couple things happened that were mostly outside of his control. They sold Partey and Rodri and really don’t play a true holding midfielder any longer. Secondly, they brought in Felix, and while he can play on the wing in a 4-3-3, he’s really a classic 10 / second striker. In the big matches against better teams and in the CL, from what I’ve seen, Simeone benches Felix and plays Llorente as the 2nd striker in a 4-4-2, with Saul and Koke as CMs and Carrasco/Correa as the wide midfielders. Against teams where they expect to have possession, they play Felix as 2nd striker and Llorente drops back with Koke. Or, at times, they’ll play the midfield 3 of Koke / Llorente / Saul against lesser teams.
He is known in Spain as a midfielder that can do it all, and can match that with brilliant technique and passing. Do your research and you’ll find that is the case.
He is not a DM. But he could play the deep lying playmaker role because he actually does defend, unlike Pogba. He would be a huge upgrade to our midfield and the comment that he’s basically the same as Fred is way off base.
my comment on Bruno was that if you go back thru the Bruno transfer thread, there is a large portion of the Caf who were against the Bruno signing, and they were saying that the pro Bruno camp was over rating Bruno. Well, here we are. Frankly, none of us really know. But watching a 10 minute YouTube video is not enough to fully scout a player.
No, absolutely not. Would also make no sense for either Saul or Bayern.
One of those players that I watch that always underwhelm me. I expect more for some reason and always end up forgetting he’s on the pitch. Maybe it’s the Atletico play style
Atletico proposed a swap deal for Bernardo Silva ( who desperately wants to leave manchester and go to another country). However City havent accepted. May try for a different atletico player i.e. joao felix. However the priority this summer is a striker and an attacking midfielder i.e. grealish.
Atletico need to sell or do a FFP swap to fix the books.
Transfer Window Podcast.
Atletico need to sell or do a FFP swap to fix the books.
Transfer Window Podcast.
Massive dose of salt with that one so.
To be fair, mendes links would actually mean it's probably quite likely with regards to Joao
Now, he was overrated.
Never forget.
I'm assuming you're joking about how this is the reason 99% of people think of him as a technical wizard.
How come he hasn't made the Spain squad?
He's had a pretty average season honestly. Right time for a move you might say, a change of scenery might be exactly what he needs.
His stock might not be as high a couple of years ago but I think he might be worth it.