I imagine the reason you're having a hard time understanding why is because those peoples moral compass is different to your own.
Saudi Takeover - Claim deal done
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I imagine the reason you're having a hard time understanding why is because those peoples moral compass is different to your own.
This is about Manchester United football club and who owns it, the British and US government have the square root of cock all to do with it.
Is this a serious question? Say what you want about the Saudis but if there's one thing they aren't then that's scousers.
Reading back on 10 or so pages on this I’d forgotten we lost today as I was using my brain trying to make sense of some of the posts.
For me it’s a simple matter of who they are and what they stand for. Yes the Glazers are running us as a cash making business, which they’ve done very well I may add, but their family earned that money (as far as I’m aware) through successful business that’s common place in the western world.
Saudi Arabia, despite being a country you can visit and do so in quite a lot of luxury, has horrendously outdated laws and views which do not match up with western life. That’s not even touching on the genocide and human rights aspects. Whilst that may be their ‘culture’, it should never ever be something a European club, an English club as large as United should be associated with. It goes beyond money and what they can do.
And yet the thread has made it to 26 pages
If ever there was a thread that need closing pending some concrete news, it's this one!
So avoid the point being raised. I’ll accept that as check mate.
If we are being sold better pray that it's wealthy Arab or Chinese conglomerate rather than another leveraged buyout saddled us with debts and taking a billion out from us.
For the case of City and PSG, they are well run club with proper football structure.
For the case of City and PSG, they are well run club with proper football structure.
Feels like a no smoke without fire situation. Glazers won’t stick around forever, and if they got a good deal they’d take it.
I think Lemansky posed a very good question in where do we draw the line in ethics? People are of course entitled to take the moral high ground but for me it has to be across the board. Genocide is the worst thing that can happen in a country so I'm no way downplaying what is happening but it is almost as if child slave labour is acceptable which people must think when they go out and buy the new iPhone or their Nike trainers or their Adidas football boots. At least they're not being killed (although many are dying) seems to be the general response but both are atrocities in my eyes. Which brings me back to Lemanskys question about where do we draw the line and once it has been drawn shouldn't we be consistent in our choices?
What is my moral compass?
If it's an actual businessman than I will have to question his common sense and how he is going to finance and get his money back.
My example is clubs not owned by leeches "investors".
It's not a good question, you draw the line where you want, it's a personal consideration.
It's so predictable. Sir Alex will get a seat on the board and will get to possibly reccomend the sacking of Woodward and other suits like Judge and bring in the likes of VDS as GM/MD/CEO. Once those influential people are sorted there won't be any sustainable fan opposition to the takeover and when Galacticos light up OT most will come back.
Show. Me. The. Money.
Your point is utter bollocks frankly. Some people don’t want to follow a club owned by a brutal and corrupt country. The existence of other brutal and corrupt countries has zero to do with anything.
You know all the businessmen in SA?
MBS has denied the takeover previously and so have others around him.
The ghost of Dr David Kelly says hi to everyone who mentioned Jamal Khashoggi in this thread.
It was a joke pal.
What about all the workers who have died building the Qatar world Cup stadia? Are PSG fans protesting? Are they feck.
How many people do you think City's Sheikh has had disappear in the desert in his and his family time? Plenty of imagine.
Football has got to the level where slimy people get in now.
So by your logic, it doesn't matter. The same person can't own two clubs in the same league. So nothing to see here then.
Our club is owned by prominent citizens of the most corrupt country on the planet and resides in a country with a history of brutality and subjugation and whom facilitate brutality today.
Only you know the motives behind your mental gymnastics to avoid this truth.
I consider that kind of takeover's gonna be the best in terms of management and chances to crowl out of the swamp. No way we will be a top team again with Glazers in charge.
because being citizens of a country is utterly different to being the ruler, it isn’t complicated. Just like I don’t judge Saudi people by the actions of their government.
He also denied ordering the murder of the journalist. Why are you such a fan of rich despots?
Wait, so we should have a problem with all americans?
Mods, can't we move this thread to the politics part of the forum until as there seems to be no real news on this, just endless political bickering.
You're the one performing the mental gymnastics by equating being citizens of a country with being the supreme ruler of a country.
Overly dramatic response to something that won't have a negative impact on the day to day running of the club.
Well, in order to answer your disgusting and disingenuous post, i can not talk on behalf of all my people(south americans/latinos), and i can not talk on behalf of our desperate children caged like animals in the border. But if i really say what you deserve to hear, i would get a ban for sure.
Imho I think we are gearing up for a sale. I just hope it’s not them when it happens.
We should put this to bed if it’s fake news. If not, the smoke will continue. Not good for anyone imo.
We should put this to bed if it’s fake news. If not, the smoke will continue. Not good for anyone imo.
Its maddening how our wage bill can be still that high given Lukaku has been sold, Smalling, Fellaini and Herrera wages are shed, part of Sanchez wages are shed.
I know Rashford and DDG got ridiculous contracts, but are likes of Maguire/WanB/James on big money too?
Well I've done my bit - written to the Olympic Committee asking if they'll take the
Mental Gymnastics away from Saudi.
Mental Gymnastics away from Saudi.
15,000 members of the house of Said (Saudi royal family) with a trillion pounds between them.far from the only super wealthy Saudis I'd imagine.
Why does everyone believe this is fake news?
Same news was spread last season when they where with the saudis at the misk global forum. They go every year.
Come on mate be serious. How the feck would one person know what another person they don't know on an internet forum finds morally right or wrong. The question is pointless.
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