Sashin Tendollka

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Tony Greig inspired title aside, I think he should retire. Been playing only so his endorsement deals run a bit longer. Knows no one can axe him cos of the mass riots that would follow and the odd suicide while not forgetting thousands realising they are gay for him.

Retiring during the time people ask why and not when, and all that...
 
How old is he? I think he can still do the job but people should stop expecting too much from him and it's upto the younger batsmen to take some responsibilty. However he should be dropped if his form doesn't improve.
 
He should go for a one last hurrah and then call it a day,a retirement tour of sorts. It would be a shame if he went like this, I mean his sending off should eclipse those of warne and waugh.
 
Nonsense.He's still better than what we have today.Which is a shame.
 
crappycraperson said:
He should go for a one last hurrah and then call it a day,a retirement tour of sorts. It would be a shame if he went like this, I mean his sending off should eclipse those of warne and waugh.
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It would if he played for a team has good as the Aussies.

Personally it pains me to watch him bat these days especially when he's looking to occupy the crease. And i'm not having this playing for endorsment nonesense. Hes always been as dedicated a cricketers as you'l find.

I would say have a go at our next big overseas tour. I think we go to Australia this year? So if he's up for it, he should give that a shot. For me his only problem right now is performing against the best, which strangely enough he used to be the best at. He can still get loads of runs against the smaller teams but its the big matches hes starting to struggle in. So i would say the Australia tour if it is in the next year and thats it.

And Ian Chappel is getting quite annoying now. Yesterday he was on about how the difference between the Indians and the Australians is that if in India if Sachin does well and India lose we're happy, whereas the Australian fans only care about winning.
 
he'll play for 4 more years / or till we get some decent players..
there is noone who can replace him , not because he is excellent .. but because the others are shit
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Personally it pains me to watch him bat these days especially when he's looking to occupy the crease. And i'm not having this playing for endorsment nonesense. Hes always been as dedicated a cricketers as you'l find.
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He's not playing in order to get new endorsements but to run out his current ones. He doesn't get those big bucks when he's managing his restaurants.

crappycraperson said:
He should go for a one last hurrah and then call it a day,a retirement tour of sorts. It would be a shame if he went like this, I mean his sending off should eclipse those of warne and waugh.
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One last hurrah indeed. Why put individuals above the team? His form shows he shouldn't be in the team. His past records count for feck all.

Steve Waugh didn't have a great sending off, in terms of winning a series or something. Doubt he'd count salvaging a test series at home as an achievement.
 
Salvation said:
He's not playing in order to get new endorsements but to run out his current ones. He doesn't get those big bucks when he's managing his restaurants.
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You're talking like one of those bafoons on the street claiming 'din raat woh aads karte hai, cricket pe dhyaan dena chahiye'(excuse the hindi spellings:nervous: )

Salvation said:
One last hurrah indeed. Why put individuals above the team? His form shows he shouldn't be in the team. His past records count for feck all.

Steve Waugh didn't have a great sending off, in terms of winning a series or something. Doubt he'd count salvaging a test series at home as an achievement.
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Wrong. He has a very good recent record. Infact purely on merit you would have to include him in India's next series, especially for one dayers. Its just the big occasions where hes looking considerably a different batsman, but then who is performing on the big stage for us these days?

Steve Waugh did have a great sending off. One of the best IMO, coming in when his side were looking like losing a test series at home, which by Aussie standards would have been a calamity, playing a terrific knock and saving the match and series.
 
I have no problem with his ads, obnoxious voice not counting. His form hasn't been great, not been his best self since a good few years.

I think established Indian cricketers easily earn as much, if not more from endorsements. They have to stay in the game only to persist with their image. The problem is not the time being devoted for ads, but performances being equivalent to earnings from ads. There is a rift of sorts in that department.

You can't dismiss a dismal performance in the World Cup as a minor affair. Look at the record of India playing abroad. Truly ghastly.

The worst bit is every fecking ex-cricketer drawing parallels from the current levels of calibre to the 1983 team. Evolve with times cnutos.

Steve Waugh last test series' on field affair doesn't come close to what he has done and achieved with his Australian teams in the past. The on field affairs would hardly culminate to being one of his fondest memories.
 
He is averaging just under 45 in his last 25 one dayers.

He is averaging 26 in his last 10 tests.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
It would if he played for a team has good as the Aussies.

Personally it pains me to watch him bat these days especially when he's looking to occupy the crease. And i'm not having this playing for endorsment nonesense. Hes always been as dedicated a cricketers as you'l find.

I would say have a go at our next big overseas tour. I think we go to Australia this year? So if he's up for it, he should give that a shot. For me his only problem right now is performing against the best, which strangely enough he used to be the best at. He can still get loads of runs against the smaller teams but its the big matches hes starting to struggle in. So i would say the Australia tour if it is in the next year and thats it.

And Ian Chappel is getting quite annoying now. Yesterday he was on about how the difference between the Indians and the Australians is that if in India if Sachin does well and India lose we're happy, whereas the Australian fans only care about winning.
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I've been watching a bit of that halftime show or whatever the feck that crap is. Ian Chappell is a grade A cnut.
 
But strangely enough, he averages 44.28 in his last 10 matches. And in the last 10 matches that India won, Sachin scored at an average of nearly 53 runs but in the last 10 matches that India lost, Sachin's average drops down to 25.So when Sachin plays well, India are the winner and when Sachin fails India lose

http://www.cricketnext.com/news/no-easy-answer-to-team-indias-loss/23944-13-single.html

Even on merit he still deserves a place in the team.

And No, I didn't mean his interests should come before Indian team. But yeah he has done enough for Indian cricket, not to be dumped without being told it's his last chance.
 
zing said:
I've been watching a bit of that halftime show or whatever the feck that crap is. Ian Chappell is a grade A cnut.
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He is. Says the difference between Indians and Aussies is that an Indian fan doesnt care if India win or lose as long as people like Sachin get hundreds.

But i cant believe these rumours that are floating around about Sachin and other senior members being like a 'mafia' in the dressing room and behaving badly with the youngsters. Sounds far fetched.
 
I'm sure there'd be loads of records being thrown across but the stats that matter are India is rated as an avarage team in the official rankings, without any series wins outside the subcontinent for what, two decades, and all this despire a nation of billion focussing primarily on cricket
 
Salvation said:
I'm sure there'd be loads of records being thrown across but the stats that matter are India is rated as an avarage team in the official rankings, without any series wins outside the subcontinent for what, two decades, and all this despire a nation of billion focussing primarily on cricket
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Fair enough. Right now we're worse than average. But theres no point in people over exaggerating things. A few years back we were clearly the second best in the world.
 
Do we have anyone coming through the ranks that we can rely on to score more runs on average than Sachin? Does anyone think that Dinesh Mongia or Venugopal Rao will offer the team more than Sachin currently does?
 
mehro said:
Do we have anyone coming through the ranks that we can rely on to score more runs on average than Sachin? Does anyone think that Dinesh Mongia or Venugopal Rao will offer the team more than Sachin currently does?
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Dont think so Mehro. Venugopal is rubbish and Mongia got opportunities but never made use of them. Thing is lets be honest on merit only Sachin makes it. When you consider things like his legend falling apart and the fact that looking to the future it might be benefitial to blood youngters, thats when the quesiton comes.

Personally i think this Sachin question is casting a shadow over more important questions which shold be answered in a few days time after the meeting. There seems to be infighting and bad blood between a lot of the members of the team, as i mentioned there are rumours doing the round that the senior players have misbehaved which is scary. If all of this true then drastic steps have to be taken. Besides IMO the infrastructure and domestic cricket are bigger issues that need to be addressed.
 
Salvation said:
I'm sure there'd be loads of records being thrown across but the stats that matter are India is rated as an avarage team in the official rankings, without any series wins outside the subcontinent for what, two decades, and all this despire a nation of billion focussing primarily on cricket
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And that's all Sachin's fault?
 
Salvation said:
Where have I stated that?

There are players who, if given the chance have the potential to be better than the current form Tendulkar is in. Dinesh Karthik for one. feck knows why Dhoni's rated higher than him.
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Dhoni was rated higher because he put in a few quality knocks but if the selectors have any sense in them he'll get replaced by Karthik. Anyone else that can come in and do better than Sachin?
 
mehro said:
Dhoni was rated higher because he put in a few quality knocks but if the selectors have any sense in them he'll get replaced by Karthik. Anyone else that can come in and do better than Sachin?
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Always knew Dhoni wouldn't do well outside the sub-continent.

I think Kaif could do a job as well, if Tendulkar is to be persisted on playing in the middle order. He has been shite for a while but that was largely due to him playing so way down the order that he wasn't given many chances.

They can easily have 6 recognised batsmen, including Karthik. Have Pathan in there as the all-rounder and have 4 genuine bowlers. None of the Sehwag and co. bowling.

Re: the meeting of selectors, I hope Chappel stays. He knows what it takes but I feel the squad doesn't seem to cope up with his demands for discipline and the selectors some how manage to feck up.
 
Salvation said:
Where have I stated that?

There are players who, if given the chance have the potential to be better than the current form Tendulkar is in. Dinesh Karthik for one. feck knows why Dhoni's rated higher than him.
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Karthik looks descent, and yeah I agree that young players have to be given chane. But we have to phase the senior players out, which should have started an year back but Chapel wasted that time with fecks knows what...

Anyway I myself reckon, unless Sachin pulls out something from the hat, he should n't be in the ODI scene by the end of this year.
 
Salvation said:
Always knew Dhoni wouldn't do well outside the sub-continent.

I think Kaif could do a job as well, if Tendulkar is to be persisted on playing in the middle order. He has been shite for a while but that was largely due to him playing so way down the order that he wasn't given many chances.

They can easily have 6 recognised batsmen, including Karthik. Have Pathan in there as the all-rounder and have 4 genuine bowlers. None of the Sehwag and co. bowling.

Re: the meeting of selectors, I hope Chappel stays. He knows what it takes but I feel the squad doesn't seem to cope up with his demands for discipline and the selectors some how manage to feck up.
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Kaif will never been as good as Sachin, Dravid or Ganguly. Yuvraj will be, not him.
 
crappycraperson said:
Karthik looks descent, and yeah I agree that young players have to be given chane. But we have to phase the senior players out, which should have started an year back but Chapel wasted that time with fecks knows what...

Anyway I myself reckon, unless Sachin pulls out something from the hat, he should n't be in the ODI scene by the end of this year.
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Don't think selectors have given Chappel what he wanted.

How do exactly go about with the phasing out process?

And it beats me why, even after two decades of failures outside the sub-continents have the richest cricketing body can't send A and B teams to tour outside India? The Indian team is currently a culmination of the 11 best {or there abouts} players to play in the sub-continent soil. If axed, they are bound to ace in the Ranjis played at Indian tracks and come back into contention. The cycle needs to change.
 
crappycraperson said:
Kaif will never been as good as Sachin, Dravid or Ganguly. Yuvraj will be, not him.
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I rate Kaif. He's technically very sound. Needs to be given ample exposure by playing him at 1 or 2 down and not to see out he last 2 overs

I'm comparing purely on the basis of form

There was a time when Dravid used to play at test match pace in one-dayers. Today he's one of the best batsman in one-dayers as well. You never know
 
Salvation said:
I rate Kaif. He's technically very sound. Needs to be given ample exposure by playing him at 1 or 2 down and not to see out he last 2 overs

I'm comparing purely on the basis of form

There was a time when Dravid used to play at test match pace in one-dayers. Today he's one of the best batsman in one-dayers as well. You never know
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Kaif has had a lot of chances to play a big innings. He normally fails in 10 matched and gets a big score in one. And actually his technique is not upto the mark, he will never make the test side.
 
Crappy is right about Kaif. Lets forget technique Dhoni and Sehwag were never known for their techniques and these days it isnt he most important thing. Dhoni has to be given some time, i think he will eventually come good abroad as well but hes been overhyped on his performances on Indian pitches and its affected his batting elsewhere.

Kaif has had loads and loads of chances in the last few years. The odd series hes looked like that batsman who took India to a glorious victory in the Natwest series but its happened very rarely. Most of the other occasions hes looked figity, tense and doesnt look like doing much.
 
Kaif is the future, like it or not.Excellent fielder and a good batsman.Noone better coming through the ranks.Sachin, Dravid and Ganguly will stay in the team...as will Yuvraj...the selectors will look to make amends for the WC fiasco by dropping Sachin and axing Dravid though...

For a sport which a lot of muppets seem to get into in their college days, there sure seems to be a lack of talent coming through.

Waste of fecking money, this shit....better to improve on infrastructure of the other sports and forget cricket for a bit.Not likely to happen though.
 
Donado said:
Kaif is the future, like it or not.Excellent fielder and a good batsman.Noone better coming through the ranks.Sachin, Dravid and Ganguly will stay in the team...as will Yuvraj...the selectors will look to make amends for the WC fiasco by dropping Sachin and axing Dravid though...

For a sport which a lot of muppets seem to get into in their college days, there sure seems to be a lack of talent coming through.

Waste of fecking money, this shit....better to improve on infrastructure of the other sports and forget cricket for a bit.Not likely to happen though.
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Only just saw this post Don. You've against stated the old cliche of improving on other spots...but can't happen. :lol:

What do you think then cnutos, will he be axed?

I have a feeling he will be
 
The papers have been carrying loads of comments about the Tendulkar/Chappell situation and most in those comments have supported Chappell, surprisingly and rightly.

One of the things that got to my tits is that clueless spazzer Kapil Dev. Great cricketer, good human being, just stay away from being an analyst, and speaking English
 
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