Darts isn't a real sport either! If you can drink a beer while playing, it's not a sport.
SAF, Giggs, Tendulkar
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No one can be better at Cricket than anyone is at Football. Not in this kind of sense. That would mean considering the possibility that the greatest sportsman of all time could be a Cricketer, and that's patently daft.
Im better at scratching my arse than Giggsy is at football
Maradona was definitely a better sportsman than Paul Jarvis.
I like the turn this thread seems to have taken.
As for influence and legend status, by sheer weight of numbers, Tendulkar would be ahead.
As for influence and legend status, by sheer weight of numbers, Tendulkar would be ahead.
Weird the attitudes to cricket in here. Have any of you who don't think its a sport ever tried to play it?
None, I'd wager.
Personally I think the skill of spending hours trying to not only hit a small leather ball hurtling up to 100mph over just 22 yards and avoid getting it caught but also avoid it hitting the stumps behind you or getting a leg in the way all the while the bowler is making it move inches from side to side in the air or move feet when it hits the ground is a much harder skill than anything footballers have to do.
It's not the actual playing that I dismiss, it's the fact that it lasts for days and takes breaks for people to drink tea.
Juggling with 4 different sized dildos is very difficult, it's still not a sport.
Well that's sort of the point. India's huge population isn't so much a bragging right for Cricket, more of a massive illusion to it's popularity. Scotland really loves Iron Bru, it still doesn't make it a huge power player in the soft drink stakes, cos it's still only Scotland that loves it so much.
Its a bit like baseball. Americans love it, bits of Japan got into it, but virtually no one else gives a shit, so no one brings up Babe Ruth as the worlds greatest sportsman.
And even then, the International Baseball Federation (which I hitherto didn't even know existed!) still has more Federation members than the ICC, which still revolves entirely around it's 10 full members, all of whom are countries we forced to play it when we owned them!
Yes, of course. Every summer when they stopped us playing the good sports and we didn't have a Tennis Court.
Hey, Central and South America love baseball too!
Is that true though? Within that set-up it's extremely difficult, granted, but then the set-up is completely predictable. You know where and when the ball is going to be bowled, you have nothing else disturbing your concentration (excluding the fecking Barmy Army). And although there are places you have to avoid hitting it, that stays more or less the same during the ball (and to a large extent the over). Same goes for juggling four dildos. Whereas in football everything's unpredictable and constantly changing, and while you're in the process of performing a pre-determined action like controlling the ball and passing, opponents are trying to tackle you and block off your options, and you have to think about stuff like where you are on the pitch if play breaks down.
On the other hand, as a batsman everything's riding on each ball, and one mistake often finishes the game for you... whereas with football and dildos you generally get a chance to redeem yourself.
They don't really. They like football like normal people. They just humour you a bit so the gringos have something to do.
They really, really like dildos in South America. No pretence there. Or if they're too poor to afford dildos, they will happily let you do them with a hot banana while bumming them.
Not that I've been to South America. But you can learn a lot from the movies.
Not that I've been to South America. But you can learn a lot from the movies.
I'm sure loads of them indulge in a spot of hot banana bumming. I've heard it's huge throughout the region. And good for them. But I don't think it can be considered a truly big or significant sex act until it's pan-continentally popular. Sure there are probably a few people in Rhyl who'll microwave a Sainsbury's bunch every now and then when it gets a bit drizzly outside, but I don't think it deserves it's place on a list of the biggest, most enduring improvisational bum fun. It's still pretty niche. No matter how many people there are in Peru.
I hate to break it to you BananaGrabbers but they only pretend to love dildos in order to humor the English so that you gringos have something to do.
A fritter in the shitter?
To be clear, the hot banana goes into the vagina. The bumming part is as God intended it.
Well that maybe how you've done it. There's more than one way to peel a banana.
This is entirely possible.
A Spud Plug?
This is entirely possible.
A Spud Plug?
Bananal.
Ananas inanass.
Plantainal.
I'm sure this is almost exactly the kind of wide ranging and in depth discussion Sammsky was hoping for when he started this thread.
This page....
Thanks Pletch. This is the kind of thinking I was after when I started this thread. very well reasoned with superior knowledge of all sports. Interesting point about coach vs athlete.
I also agree. Tendulkar is possible the greatest athlete of the 3 mentioned and possible the best ever. We'll see the kind of accolades he gets when he retires.
Better question: who excelled the most at their chosen profession, Scott Dann or Mozart?
See, look what you've gone and done Plech.
That's obviously rubbish. Cricket is an inferior sport.
I love playing it, and golf too. I just can't enjoy watching it on any level.
When he retires the majority of the world wont notice and if they do they wont care.
No way can a cricketer go down as one fo the greatest sportsmen ever. Its laughable.
Expect to be bumrushed by the Indians who treat him as another of their 9000 Gods, Randall.
Yeah more or less agree with that.
Always amuses me how the Pakistanis get wound up by Tendulkar.
I dont understand the assumption made by quite a few here. Just because not enough countries in the world play it, it isnt a sport?
Dont get me wrong. I am not saying Tnedulkar is the greatest sportsperson. Infact, I dont think you can ever compare two people from two entirely different sports and decide who is better than the other.
I just dont agree with the assumption that just because its a cricketer he cannot be the greatest sportsperson and that the greatest sportsperson has to be someone who is the best in a super popular sport.
Dont get me wrong. I am not saying Tnedulkar is the greatest sportsperson. Infact, I dont think you can ever compare two people from two entirely different sports and decide who is better than the other.
I just dont agree with the assumption that just because its a cricketer he cannot be the greatest sportsperson and that the greatest sportsperson has to be someone who is the best in a super popular sport.
Strange. The only person who thinks that will happen is you.
No one is actually saying it isn't a sport, we're joking. However there is a school of thought that to be the greatest sportsman ever you should either play a sport that is very popular (thus distinguishing yourself against vast competition and a multitude of different styles and disciplines) or at least one that is gruelling and physically demanding to a point beyond the ordinary. Ideally a combination of the two. Which is why people like Ali are usually mooted.
The idea that the greatest ever athlete should be a short, chubby guy who plays a not massively athletic sport only 9 other countries play properly is a bit silly to most people..
This guy.
The world's greatest, ever, athlete?
What about Ivano Balić, the world's greatest Handball player?
The idea that the greatest ever athlete should be a short, chubby guy who plays a not massively athletic sport only 9 other countries play properly is a bit silly to most people..
This guy.
The world's greatest, ever, athlete?
What about Ivano Balić, the world's greatest Handball player?
Handball? Now you're just being silly.
Of course you can. That's what it means to say someone's a great sportsman.
Messi is definitely better at football than I am at tennis. It's not even close... he's the best in the world at his sport, whereas I can't get more than one in ten first serves in in mine. They're really easy to compare.
sammsky, did you ever see this thread?
https://www.redcafe.net/f7/greatest-enemies-319792/
Of course you can. That's what it means to say someone's a great sportsman.
Messi is definitely better at football than I am at tennis. It's not even close... he's the best in the world at his sport, whereas I can't get more than one in ten first serves in in mine. They're really easy to compare.
sammsky, did you ever see this thread?
https://www.redcafe.net/f7/greatest-enemies-319792/
How about Wayne Gretzky? Completely unrivaled in terms of the whole "Who is the greatest?" in his field. In football, you get the same 3 or 4 nominees for who is the greatest who all seem to get their plaudits. Gretzky is up against no one. He just was the best, and quite possibly always will be.
Ice Hockey's pretty cool tbf.
Handball is an Olympic sport with significantly more member countries in it's International Federation. It's also older and they don't stop for lunch.
Handball is an Olympic sport with significantly more member countries in it's International Federation. It's also older and they don't stop for lunch.