The same McFred that routinely make Peps midfield look like clowns
Saúl Ñíguez \ Joins Chelsea on loan
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Camavinga. No better than Fred! Ahahahahahahahaha. Well done. I needed a laugh today
Stop with that, you're ruining a perfect moan.
What is the point of a Lamborghini chassis and interior if it is a Lada engine.
Hahahahahaa. Dont. My ribs my ribs. You jokers!!
You have to be honest about Haaland. That was like a conversation...how much for Haaland? A gazzilion Euros, You sure, yep a gazzilion Euros. That was never going to happen, but worth asking.
Oh come on....who else will people have to moan about?
Those who think Fred is a shite footballer, havent watched us play regularly for the last 2 years. He was a shout for most improved player in 2019-20 and 2020-21. He displaced Fabinho in Brazil squad. He is a good midfielder, not Djemba x2 like y'all keep saying.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say I don’t think Saul is going to come in and become a regular in Chelsea’s team. I don’t think he improves them all that much. I think he would have improved us more and got more games here but I’d still fancy us to get a decent result against Chelsea, most likely a draw but they wouldn’t be trashing us or anything. It’s more about not drawing and losing against the poorer teams and keeping it tight in the big games.
I don't think any reasonable person would say he's shite. What he is, is erratic and inconsistent at points, with important traits in for his position - ie touch, awareness and passing (I'm not even talking expansive passing, just not giving the ball away cheaply.
He's been great at scrapping, constantly on players' heels. I agree with you on that.
Cant say hes been great in other departments that a CM should do though.
He's good at some things I'll give you that.
If you want someone to slice the ball to an opposing player in your own half 3 times in the first 5 minutes of a game ---> Fred is your guy.
The hardest thing to talk about his how useful Fred is with his quick passing that helps our attacks.
However, due to the times where he may lose possesion in a bad away - his passing gets talked about like he does shit all.
Pretty good metaphor. The engine cannot muster the energy needed to drive our brilliant chassis at speeds worthy of its quality.
Do Chelsea really need another central midfielder? He'd start every game here.
He had a good first half of the season and was right back to being terrible from January on.
Since then his mistakes started becoming more and more frequent.
Now they are near constant. He isn't good enough.
Now come on, how that possible? Surely he never contributed to us getting to 2nd and 3rd, semi's, finals and unbeaten away? He's that shite, he can only play his best football against the best teams in the PL and in Europe....Brazilian, he can't pass and only averages 89-90% most matches.
Why would we be thrashing United? You have one of the bets squads in the world. You have a weakness at the DM position but apart from that, you're as strong, if not stronger than us, all over the park.
Would be great business if it's a loan with no obligation, at worst a great depth signing for 5m EUR
It is all relative. Fred doesnt play for any other side with pretension to be Prem champs. Take Chelsea is he in front of Kante, Jorginho, Saul Niguez, Kovacic, Mount or even Loftus-Cheek? You know the answer. Make no mistake we are lucky to have seven points at this stage.
He can't get in the Spain squad and his club are happy for him to leave on loan. I'm thinking less Lamborghini, more Ford Mondeo.
Wow, those Lada's have improved then cause they just beaten the away record and came 2nd in the league. Are you Utds best fan cause if you are not, you are a disappointment and of poor quality.....
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Chelsea being extremely gluttonous. Wont be surprised if they get Kounde also just to sit him on the bench. The depth is already insane, why buy more? In a tight pinch Chalobah and Ampadu can both play in CM. They wont even loan out Hudson-Odoi to Dortmund, he wont play more then 300-500 minutes all season at Chelsea
The season is long and full of terrors. With Covid as well it's not unrealistic that teams have a lot more unexpected player absences than just the usual injuries.
We're going for the sextuple this season, don't forget.
Did we not finish above them the last two seasons? Have they won it already after 3 games?
It’s just depth thankfully. That being said our record with loans is not great. Maniche, quaresma, falcao and paim under RA.. yup.
Yep, Ath Madrid are that good, they can just give Ferrari's and Lambo's away for nothing......!!!!
The pressure is on him now our quality is rising especially with the demands of winners such as Ronaldo and Verane on board. hey aren't here to be also rans. Those that aren't good enough will buckle under the pressure. Fred is in that position.
Why? What difference does it make to me or you?
If I was him, I'd insist on putting "Ñíguez" on the back of my shirt just to give every British commentator night terrors before they cover a Chelsea match.
Very interested to see how he does in the premier league.
We needed him but Chelsea got him as a 2nd or 3rd in the packing order.
https://www.skysports.com/football/...-madrid-midfielder-ahead-of-transfer-deadline
How the f... does this happen
https://www.skysports.com/football/...-madrid-midfielder-ahead-of-transfer-deadline
How the f... does this happen
The driver/manager of the car decided he wanted the chassis and not the engine.
I have no idea if he's any good. Surprised to see he is only 26 though, feels like he's been around forever.
I remember some people saying Bale was a good loan move too......
Another who isn't as good as people think. He's regressed.
We don't need him since Ronaldo is back and Pogba's days as winger are over.
Even Kimmich would have been the wrong player.
We would have needed a midfielder like Ndidi, Rice or Bissouma.
Maguire and Varane are brilliant CB's....we need just a defensive midfielder with good passing and brain there.....a younger Matic.
Pogba will be now back in midfield for the most matches.....Solskjaer must find now a massive solution to improve our game (I doubt he will).
Even Kimmich would have been the wrong player.
We would have needed a midfielder like Ndidi, Rice or Bissouma.
Maguire and Varane are brilliant CB's....we need just a defensive midfielder with good passing and brain there.....a younger Matic.
Pogba will be now back in midfield for the most matches.....Solskjaer must find now a massive solution to improve our game (I doubt he will).
If it is really high it can cause a disruption with other players. A disruption with the players cause the team to under perform. The team under performing makes me cranky on Saturday or Sunday.
Beating an away record when there are no fans isn't that impressive.
Personally, I enjoy slick passing, it's painful at times watching us try to play through other teams, or break down a parked bus. We get results through individual brilliance, not through having a powerful "engine" (the central midfield in the metaphor, which I'll admit has its limitations as all the players drive the action).
We did well to come second, thanks to Liverpool and Chelsea struggling (before Lampard left). But we couldn't get out of the group stage of the CL.
Of course, Liverpool won the CL with a Lada quality midfield (I actually have no idea what a Lada is so if that's harsh I apologize, is this a Yugo level car?). But they had dribbling wingers who could hold the ball up and a striker who lives to drop deep and facilitate. And full backs who were crucial for crosses. If we had a Shaw on the right we might get away with McFred against the best.
It might work anyway, but i still would personally want more strength in the midfield if it was me, even if that meant sacrificing attack. Attackers can't score unless someone creates a chance for them. Look at Poland, what good is Lewandowski without service?
30m with an option to buy. Seriously what could have gone wrong with this ? Least, he would have been a body to cover that midfield. I seriously don't understand our transfers, at times.
Donny could have joined Everton and we could have signed Saul.
Donny could have joined Everton and we could have signed Saul.
Your usage of "Lada" was spot on. Lada is a Russian car that they jump-started by copying '70s Fiat but then kept producing well into 80s without adding anything of value to it. It is indeed one of the worst quality cars ever produced.
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