Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

You have provided the answer yourself. Several sources agree in that the Russian military conscripts heavily in the provinces and ethnic regions, so now the bourgeois big cities will face the same treatment which is something I'm pretty sure Putin and his cronies didn't want to do.

And I thought there were already a solid share of (perhaps lower-class) Moscovites and Petersburgians already joining the ranks.

Beyond the matter of the region of origin of the troops, how many more adult males can the Kremlin hope to mobilize before they resort to enlist women or (may God forbid) teenagers?
 
I've seen one account saying that full mobilization is on the way and this could be a standard Putin false flag to justify it.
The only reason full mobilization hasn’t happened and won’t in the future is well known as they would have nothing to equip and arm them with.
 
Very unusual shape for a drone. That thing sure does not look like it's built to travel long distances at all; it may not even make the distance between Manchester and Liverpool.
 
Very unusual shape for a drone. That thing sure does not look like it's built to travel long distances at all; it may not even make the distance between Manchester and Liverpool.

Low aspect ratio wings like that are easier to design, have more space for fuel, and are better for maneuverability if they're hoping to avoid air defences. They don't need these things loitering for hours.
 
Finally, this should become a daily reoccurrence for the pressure to start building from within to end this war. The regime in Kremlin did a pretty good job disconnecting ordinary russians from the realities of the war allowing them to be indifferent.

But this strategy comes with the risk of Russian civilian casualties. Image what the images of a school being hit with numerous children killed might do for the western world’s continuous support to the Ukraine. It won’t take much to sway the general public to start pushing for a peace deal.
 
But this strategy comes with the risk of Russian civilian casualties. Image what the images of a school being hit with numerous children killed might do for the western world’s continuous support to the Ukraine. It won’t take much to sway the general public to start pushing for a peace deal.
Yes, collateral damage is always possible with such attacks, but on the strategic level in the west the decisions have already been made at the highest levels, public opinion won’t be able to alter that any time soon, especially after what Ukrainians had to go through. However, the war coming to Russia could very much speed up the end of the war on Ukrainian terms, especially after the successful counteroffensive. Russian internal apparatus’s will collapse on itself, this is just part of the shaping operations and mood setting in Russia before the final straw that brings down the camel.
 
Its not like Ukraine has had a bombing of Dresden monent. However that only emboldened the german populations resolve towards the war effort through propaganda. It seems unfair that Russia itself shouldnt be striked but i think attacks in Russia will only result in more Russians signing up.
 
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Reports are saying that around 25 UAVs have attacked Moscow this morning.
You reap what you sow.

Emotionally all for this, but logically just cannot see a tactical benefit in doing such.

Have they ascertained who launched these drone attacks?
 
Emotionally all for this, but logically just cannot see a tactical benefit in doing such.

Have they ascertained who launched these drone attacks?
Logic is very simple, the factual events unfolding from the war are currently not reconciling with Russian TV viewers and the idea is that they will finally begin to see that their SMO is not really going according to the plan as proudly stated daily by their Putin and propaganda. The obvious questions will start to pop up more and more in the society: Why are we lied to? Do we really need this? Did we have drone attacks before the February of last year? Now they’re mostly indifferent and since it’s not impacting their daily lives that much, not many are willing to express their frustrations with this SMO. The consequences of SMO are needed to be felt in order for frustrations to start building up internally.
 
Emotionally all for this, but logically just cannot see a tactical benefit in doing such.

Have they ascertained who launched these drone attacks?

No clue. Ukraine aren't claiming it, stating its Russian "internal problems".
 
Logic is very simple, the factual events unfolding from the war are currently not reconciling with Russian TV viewers and the idea is that they will finally begin to see that their SMO is not really going according to the plan as proudly stated daily by their Putin and propaganda. The obvious questions will start to pop up more and more in the society: Why are we lied to? Do we really need this? Did we have drone attacks before the February of last year? Now they’re mostly indifferent and since it’s not impacting their daily lives that much, not many are willing to express their frustrations with this SMO. The consequences of SMO are needed to be felt in order for frustrations to start building up internally.
The problem here is the potential for backfiring. Rather than questioning the invasion, the population might become more willing to support it instead and stand behind the Russian military.

Obviously I don't know which scenario will play out but if I was Ukraine I'd avoid upsetting the Russian population...
 
No clue. Ukraine aren't claiming it, stating its Russian "internal problems".
Nah, you can always say by Podolyak's reaction. When he denies it, he denies it, when he takes the piss, it's them (but he doesn't want to openly take credit) – Podolyak said that the AI is constantly evolving so maybe drones decided on their own not to fly to Ukraine that day and to target Moscow instead. And that's taking the piss.
 
Its not like Ukraine has had a bombing of Dresden monent. However that only emboldened the german populations resolve towards the war effort through propaganda. It seems unfair that Russia itself shouldnt be striked but i think attacks in Russia will only result in more Russians signing up.
I'm in two minds about this. I'm scared that this can lead to genuine mobilization of people behind the war effort (smth in the lines of: "we told you they'd attack us if we didn't attack them first – and look, they did!") but at the same time these attacks certainly lead to further destabilization of the regime in general.

It's all about the critical thinking ability but that's, sadly, something that isn't all that common in Russia.
 
I'm in two minds about this. I'm scared that this can lead to genuine mobilization of people behind the war effort (smth in the lines of: "we told you they'd attack us if we didn't attack them first – and look, they did!") but at the same time these attacks certainly lead to further destabilization of the regime in general.

It's all about the critical thinking ability but that's, sadly, something that isn't all that common in Russia.

As it is. And im not russian. I dont live there, work there or travel or anything. But I can only see attacks on Russian soil as a motivation for russians to step up the war effort. It´s all about nationalism. Its more effective to show what a complete disaster the invasion has been like the boss of the wagner group showed. Striking into Russia simply attracts more nationalists to believe this all necessary to defeat the Ukranian "jewish Nazis´".

In my opinon, its not what is fair, but what is skillfull.
 
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Get ready my fellow Germans, it's time to take over Greece again. Last time we had to force them stop giving money away they didn't have, now it's time to motivate them giving stuff away that they do have. Probably we overdid it while teaching "not spending too much money"?
 
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Get ready my fellow Germans, it's time to take over Greece again. Last time we had to force them stop giving money away they didn't have, now it's time to motivate them giving stuff away that they do have. Probably we overdid it while teaching "not spending too much money"?

The sooner people can move away from this almost religous view of the EU the better.
 
Why can't someone just put a bullet in his head whenever he goes out of hiding?
You seriously underestimate security measures around him. Half of the Moscow centre was closed so that he was able to get to the Zotov centre (I assume that that's him there) without any hassle.
 
Can't see any benefit whatsoever to these drone attacks, other than to signal to Russia that Moscow isn't untouchable. But I'd say that Ukraine has far more to lose than to gain with seemingly indiscriminate drone attacks against Russia - which makes me think that this isn't sanctioned by the Ukrainian government (could be some 3rd party or a false flag).
 
Can't see any benefit whatsoever to these drone attacks, other than to signal to Russia that Moscow isn't untouchable. But I'd say that Ukraine has far more to lose than to gain with seemingly indiscriminate drone attacks against Russia - which makes me think that this isn't sanctioned by the Ukrainian government (could be some 3rd party or a false flag).

If anything, its a reminder that Ukraine have the means to strike within the heart of Russia, which itself has a psychologically destabilizing aspect to it, in a regime that previously thought its domestic interests were safe because all fighting was abroad.
 
If anything, its a reminder that Ukraine have the means to strike within the heart of Russia, which itself has a psychologically destabilizing aspect to it, in a regime that previously thought its domestic interests were safe because all fighting was abroad.

Yeah, but at what cost? It undermines Ukrainian statements on targeting civilian infrastructure (the scale of Russia's indiscriminate bombing of Ukraine is irrelevant), gives Russia a rallying cry and enables Russia to escalate - all the while putting strain on Ukraine's NATO relations, as their western backers have been explicit in saying that they don't want any of their weapons/attacks in general on Russian soil (hence the need for plausible deniability via sabotage).

Russia is well aware of the capabilities of the Ukrainians, there have been countless sabotage events within Russia since the war began not to mention the immediate use of Storm Shadow, patriot missiles etc. This token attack on Russia, which seemingly just hit civilian infrastructure, has very little gain. Have read that it might force Russia to push its air defence further back, but still think that's not worth the negative consequences. So far the Ukrainian strategy has been spot on, can only see this as detrimental. Time will tell though.
 
Yeah, but at what cost? It undermines Ukrainian statements on targeting civilian infrastructure (the scale of Russia's indiscriminate bombing of Ukraine is irrelevant), gives Russia a rallying cry and enables Russia to escalate - all the while putting strain on Ukraine's NATO relations, as their western backers have been explicit in saying that they don't want any of their weapons/attacks in general on Russian soil (hence the need for plausible deniability via sabotage).

Russia is well aware of the capabilities of the Ukrainians, there have been countless sabotage events within Russia since the war began not to mention the immediate use of Storm Shadow, patriot missiles etc. This token attack on Russia, which seemingly just hit civilian infrastructure, has very little gain. Have read that it might force Russia to push its air defence further back, but still think that's not worth the negative consequences. So far the Ukrainian strategy has been spot on, can only see this as detrimental. Time will tell though.

Have the Ukrainians taken responsibility for any of these ? I always thought they neither confirmed nor denied any operations inside Russia.
 
He clearly lives in his own self-contained bubble of delusion.


To be honest I think this is a quite accurate statement. Russia as a major power with imperialistic tendencies needs to win this war to keep existing as such. A loss in Ukraine would destroy that image and self perception. It would indeed destroy Putin's Russia.
 
To be honest I think this is a quite accurate statement. Russia as a major power with imperialistic tendencies needs to win this war to keep existing as such. A loss in Ukraine would destroy that image and self perception. It would indeed destroy Putin's Russia.

Yeah but he could've just as well preserved his regime by not attacking Ukraine in the first place. He's obviously talking nonsense in the same way Trump does - by saying he is being attacked while actually doing the attacking.