Rugby Union 21/22/23 Discussion | RWC time!

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The IRB TV producer is in love with that Samoa supporter. :lol:
 
That looked like a knock on all day long, but why can't they determine this before they take the conversion. Its rediculous to allow the conversion then pull it back.
 
It's an interesting TMO because I don't think that it's a knock on, the Samoa's player pushes the ball toward his side, the ball is then pushed backward by Curry(?).
 
Samoa will disappointed they're not further in front but if they keep their heads up, maybe the upset is on.
 
Samoa will lose that game convincingly. These teams can't sustain physical play, if England plays no pass Rugby for 10 minutes Samoa are done.
 
Have you guys heard side stories around England? I really struggle to understand how they managed to completely meltdown in a bit more than a year.
 
I still can’t quite believe that England can lose to Samoa (Samoa!) and still top their group. But Ireland have to beat South Africa and Scotland to avoid being knocked out of the tournament. WTF?!?
A big part of that is the surprise in how crap Argentina are. Still can't get over how absolutely diabolical they were in the first match.
 
I still can’t quite believe that England can lose to Samoa (Samoa!) and still top their group. But Ireland have to beat South Africa and Scotland to avoid being knocked out of the tournament. WTF?!?

The draw is so weird but I think everyone's sick of the moaning.

We'll just have to beat everyone.
 
Have you guys heard side stories around England? I really struggle to understand how they managed to completely meltdown in a bit more than a year.
No, but let me give my 50 cents.

The years after 2019 we basically spent by Eddie aiming solely for this World Cup. So much so that we completely ignored the development of a huge amount of players. You look at players like Willis, Earl, Mitchell…these are absolutely quality players, but they’re extremely undeveloped at international level. There’s a whole army of players a level below that that are even less so. Earl was premiership player of the season and destroying everyone week in week out, but couldn’t get a sniff for England because we had our favourites and that was that.

Add to that the timing of the Jones sacking was awful, Borthwick a poor choice, plus the English players are spread around a lot of different club sides (so the cohesion is harder to create) and you have an international team that is a lot worse than the sun of it’s parts
 
The draw is so weird but I think everyone's sick of the moaning.

We'll just have to beat everyone.

I don’t even know if this particular moan is about the draw. Which has up until now been about an imbalance between the two halves. This latest head feck is more about all the weird permutations you get with bonus points.
 
I don’t even know if this particular moan is about the draw. Which has up until now been about an imbalance between the two halves. This latest head feck is more about all the weird permutations you get with bonus points.

The reason the result of this game doesn't matter for England is that the groups are imbalanced though, right?
 
No, but let me give my 50 cents.

The years after 2019 we basically spent by Eddie aiming solely for this World Cup. So much so that we completely ignored the development of a huge amount of players. You look at players like Willis, Earl, Mitchell…these are absolutely quality players, but they’re extremely undeveloped at international level. There’s a whole army of players a level below that that are even less so. Earl was premiership player of the season and destroying everyone week in week out, but couldn’t get a sniff for England because we had our favourites and that was that.

Add to that the timing of the Jones sacking was awful, Borthwick a poor choice, plus the English players are spread around a lot of different club sides (so the cohesion is harder to create) and you have an international team that is a lot worse than the sun of it’s parts

Good points. I remember wondering why England didn't push their great young back rowers into the team and also why Jones seemed to completely ignore Chiefs players when they were the best english team around.
 
Two off the ball tackles. This one hasn't wrapped his arms. "Just tidy it up lads."
 
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