Rugby Union 21/22/23 Discussion | RWC time!

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At times I don't fully understand why teams kick.

Edit - not doubting them, I literally don't understand.
 
I wonder if the Australia media will now appreciate that this is the actual level of the wallabies instead of dancing around hoping they’re world class.

The failure of rugby Australia post the 2003 World Cup will go down as the most shambolic shit show of piss poor management in sports history. Literally went from back to back World Cup finals to the sport teetering on returning to semi professional and code nearly broke.

well done you private school dickheads
 
I wonder if the Australia media will now appreciate that this is the actual level of the wallabies instead of dancing around hoping they’re world class.

The failure of rugby Australia post the 2003 World Cup will go down as the most shambolic shit show of piss poor management in sports history. Literally went from back to back World Cup finals to the sport teetering on returning to semi professional and code nearly broke.

well done you private school dickheads

I forgot, you are from or in Australia? I noticed that fans and online posts have been very critical of Australia for a long time even under Rennie but the press somehow doesn't match that sentiment.
 
For England it’s the game plan. The very boring, safety first, game plan.
Well in fairness we drop the ball every time we try more than three passes in a row. Might as gain some ground before giving them the ball back.
 
Well in fairness we drop the ball every time we try more than three passes in a row. Might as gain some ground before giving them the ball back.

There’s been way more handling errors than usual in this WC. Everyone’s at it. Humidity seems to be making the ball slippy. But why not back yourself? At least give it a go?
 
OK.

It also puzzles me in other games. Is it to get a breather and reset sometimes?

No, generally it's in the context of territory gain. You kick, chase and put pressure in the opposition's half. That's how France, South Africa and Ireland largely dominate teams.

The issue is that many teams don't have a good kicking game.
 
So many little errors from Japan that will ultimately gift the game to England. Win you're scrum there, go through a phase, kick out for HT. But now they've just given England 3 points instead.
 
No, generally it's in the context of territory gain. You kick, chase and put pressure in the opposition's half. That's how France, South Africa and Ireland largely dominate teams.

The issue is that many teams don't have a good kicking game.


OK. I have watched our game evolve (with a huge degree of ignorance) from an almost entirely kicking based game into a much more expansive ball in hand style so I think I associate it with a regressive style.

I get when you can get behind and or put pressure on the receiver, but the end to end kicking exchanges with no pressure baffles me.
 
So many little errors from Japan that will ultimately gift the game to England. Win you're scrum there, go through a phase, kick out for HT. But now they've just given England 3 points instead.

Errors aside. Their line out will be the main reason they lose. Can’t win a game of rugby when your own throw is a coin toss as to who ends up with the ball.
 
There’s been way more handling errors than usual in this WC. Everyone’s at it. Humidity seems to be making the ball slippy. But why not back yourself? At least give it a go?
You don’t hire Borthwick if you want to play like that. I’m not massively bothered by having a kick heavy game, I’d back Steward and Daly in the air, but it’s almost comical at times how bad it is with ball in hand. I get that it’s humid, but it also seems to be a lot of passes not being put into the right places.
 
So many little errors from Japan that will ultimately gift the game to England. Win you're scrum there, go through a phase, kick out for HT. But now they've just given England 3 points instead.

Yep, such stupid game management from them
 
OK. I have watched our game evolve (with a huge degree of ignorance) from an almost entirely kicking based game into a much more expansive ball in hand style so I think I associate it with a regressive style.

I get when you can get behind and or put pressure on the receiver, but the end to end kicking exchanges with no pressure baffles me.

They happen when neither team is able to get touch in a good area of the pitch so try to force the opposition to shoot for touch from as deep and as central as possible. Dropping it just short of the 22 is another tactic to put them under pressure. It’s a mini game of chess in the middle of the game.
 
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Errors aside. Their line out will be the main reason they lose. Can’t win a game of rugby when your own throw is a coin toss as to who ends up with the ball.

I don't know, Fiji just won and their line-out was shite! (but you are right generally)
 
OK.

It also puzzles me in other games. Is it to get a breather and reset sometimes?

Running from deep is risky so I think certain teams will kick as part of a more risk averse game plan or others, like Fiji earlier at the end of the game with a slim lead, will do it at certain points in a game when they don't want to give away a turn over.

Kicking and keeping the ball in play they're hoping to chase and force an error from the opposition but if they find touch they've gained a huge amount of territory and can put pressure on the defensive line out. The chance of a 50-22 encourages it also. But you can get a period of foot tennis.
 
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OK. I have watched our game evolve (with a huge degree of ignorance) from an almost entirely kicking based game into a much more expansive ball in hand style so I think I associate it with a regressive style.

I get when you can get behind and or put pressure on the receiver, but the end to end kicking exchanges with no pressure baffles me.

The best teams kick very well and often, it's the poor teams that don't really kick or kick poorly. The exception being Australia in the 90s-early 2000s, led by Gregan, who could beat the breaks of you while playing in a style that didn't rely on kicking or set phases.
 
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Japan are getting too excited, leaving the ball behind far too often.
 
England are lucky they're in an "easy" group here. They should go through because of that, but surely they won't be going any further.
 
England have zero attacking patterns, are the back line even that good if we did manage to put anything together?

Daly and May are average, tuilangi one dimensional and no idea in marchant.
 
That georgian referee is flawless. It's been nearly 18 months of nearly perfect refereeing.
 
Going for the 3-pointer again. I know it gets the scoreline closer, but it doesn't help Japan in getting the lead.
 
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