Who needs Neves when we got Pereira! 
Ruben Neves | Signed for Al Hilal (SA)
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I'd like us to get him but we arent really seeing any credible links, mostly just speculation.
Buy him. The price tag is peanuts. He's got Manchester United player written all over him. I could see him having a Carrick effect on us.
I'd imagine the lack of noise re him in press is probably due to the fact, that this seemingly would be an easy transaction. the price seems to be 35m. I think maybe we might have to sell someone to possibly offset that. I know 35m is peanuts, but we knew our budget was 100m, we've basically overspent that already. We might need to sell one/some of our fringe players first. Arsenal have been keen, he hasn't went, almost seems like he is waiting on our interest to become confirmed.I think this lad is a no brainer for us, exactly what we need
Is he able to take the ball facing his own goal under pressure and pivot to turn into space and get us going forward quickly? Cause that’s what we need alongside defensive capability.
The more I think about it the more I think this signing make sense. Hope we can sell some of our deadwood so we can get him in by the end of the window.
A single pivot with Pogba/DVB and Bruno ahead of him against the smaller teams would be amazing and would help us break teams down, which is what we struggled with last season. Can also play with Fred in a double pivot against the bigger teams.
A single pivot with Pogba/DVB and Bruno ahead of him against the smaller teams would be amazing and would help us break teams down, which is what we struggled with last season. Can also play with Fred in a double pivot against the bigger teams.
If we get him our 4-3-3 is done for this year at least, even if Pogba leaves.
Doubt we'll play 4-3-3 anyway.
Yeah but he stays deep and his role isn't to create assists or chances, it's to start attacks. Not all good passes create chances.
He's a sitting midfielder. Not sure he's exactly what we need - he's not very mobile, and I'd worry about him getting bypassed on the counter - but he fits the profile we need better than Fred or McTominay, who both like to run around a lot and join the attack, and neither can reliably play forward passes or control a game's tempo.
It's the same source as before: Dean Jones from Eurosport.
I think he's literally been the source of every single link to Neves I've seen in this thread so far this summer.
The article above has been written off the back of quotes from 13:50 onwards in this video.
If I had to guess, I would say that Camavinga is Ole's first choice, and we're waiting to see what happens with him before moving on to alternative targets (Neves, Saul, etc)
Likewise, I imagine Neves is probably waiting (and keeping Arsenal waiting) for us to decide whether to go for him.
For 35m, I would be all for it. At the very worst case he is better than any of McFred, and would push one of them in the bench (or both, if Pogba decides to bother) which would be good for United. Not sure if he is the real solution though, but definitely he is a good player.
Well if he is our backup target for whatever situation , it sounds quite reasonable that we’ve done the groundwork so its fast to do if/when we decide to go for it.
Think we did something similar for VDB last year
For me he is quite different to both of them, with all three having separate strengths and weaknesses. So it could be more to have different qualities to play on in midfield from or withing game to game, with none of them the automatic option as we’ve seen last season.
And ofcourse , with his defensive contribution it helps alot with the rotation/backup as well.
seems we’re waiting on pogbas decision before we do anything in midfield.
I suspect we will give him an ultimatum, sign a new deal or be sold this summer.
we’ve sounded out a few interested parties so will probably make our move once that’s figured out
I suspect we will give him an ultimatum, sign a new deal or be sold this summer.
we’ve sounded out a few interested parties so will probably make our move once that’s figured out
Every single article is based on that Eurosport fellas comments. This is a complete nothing link.
3rd most interceptions in the PL last season.
I'm getting more and more on board this particular muppet train y'know.
I'm getting more and more on board this particular muppet train y'know.
A month or so ago it was "Ole will try three at the back with Wan-Bissaka as a centre-back," and now it's "Ole will adopt a more attacking 4-3-3 system". I believe no one in the media and I'm never disappointed.
Neves, Locatelli, Camavinga, Tchouameni etc. Some very interesting options for the deeper midfield position.
Who was on his list, out of curiousity?
That won't be good enough really. Pogba is much better further up the pitch and we need an effective DM
Rice, Saul, Camavinga seems to be our most reliable transfers. But the first two is very likely dependant on Pogba sale, or at least very many other sales.
Considering that £50-60m was quoted when they got promoted, it's a good fee.
Pogba Neves midfield would get slapped around
I do like Neves at that price though. Clearly enough a very capable backup option to my main man Camavinga
I do like Neves at that price though. Clearly enough a very capable backup option to my main man Camavinga
Yeah I see, makes sense.
Saul, Camavinga, Rice, Goretzka. The latter two are seen as unlikely with Rice being priced at £80m and Goretzka very likely to extend with Bayern.
I don't think Ole really wants a pure DM.
The rumour of us playing 4-3-3 was clearly nonsense, so in his eyes we have 5 midfielders (matic,dvb,fred,scott,pogba)
I assume if we lose Pogba then he will look for camavinga,neves,saul etc. All capable of playing in the 2 CM positions.
Could we sell Matic (e.g. to Roma?) and have Neves take over his role in the team?
Well, they are quite different players , but dont think anyone would complain about that at all!
Problem is selling Matic probably would only get you 1/3 of the way in terms of transfer fee. Wage wise it helps very much though.
The main argument I seem to be reading why people think we should sign him is the £35m price tag. Of coruse within the premiership that is peanuts.........but there are loads of players on the continent at that price of far far cheaper that I think are far better players already or potentially than Neves, so I just dont get this argument
Let me stop you right there. I doubt even Mourinhosaurus will buy him at this point.
Can you name those players out if curiosity?
Id be interested too.
Players cheaper than that on the continent has the risk of using a long time to adapt to PL , if they do at all. VDB is a case in point here. Ofcourse , they might do it instantly, but one never knows. And I dont think we have the possibility of brooding in yet another midfielder if we are going to challenge this year.
If Pogba left than yes. He has some qualities that our remaining midfielders lack. He has the same weaknesses as Pogba in that he gets overrun in midfield a lot which could cause the same issue when teams sit in against us and look to counter.
While I agree he is as immobile as Pogba, he has far better defensive stats and is used to sitting quite deep (more positionally disciplined), so that wont be as much of a problem I think.
As far as i know he doesnt dwindle as much on the ball or try carrying it forward as much as Pogba either .
If you look at his defensive stats he's among the worst players in Europe for getting dribbled past, when you're playing against a camped defence half of your games I think this weakness becomes more vulnerable.
https://fbref.com/en/players/44bfb6c5/scout/365_euro/Ruben-Neves-Scouting-Report
You could be right though. Perhaps it will be a lower occuring event with him because of the strengh of the rest of his defensive game.
I am also worried that Neves can't hold that line with Pogba alongside.
Absolutely, that would be horrendous
If we bring in Neves i'm 100% sure he will be a rotation option for our double pivot with McT or Fred besides him, so we can have another type of player there and also for rotational purposes - as they seem to play alot of games.
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