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First and foremost the title of this thread was @Adnan idea so I want to give him his credit before I begin.

mw-860


Ruben Amorim is a name that has been coming up in the press as of late and has been linked to United. What a good amount of people already know is that helped guide Sporting CP to their first league title in 19 years as well as a R16 berth in this years Champions League but what is his style of play and where did it all begin?

ACCOLADES:
League Title(s) - 1x
League Cup(s) - 2x
SupeTaça - 1x

Ruben Amorim was coaching in SC Braga youth setup before he was promoted to head coach following Abel Ferreiras departure. Not many people in the media paid to much attention to this move but right off the bat Amorim began to shake up the league with some huge statements wins.

In just 13 games as head coach of SC Braga Amorim accumulated FIVE (5) wins in rapid succession against Portugal’s traditional “Big Three” as well as winning a League cup and an impressive win vs Rangers in the Europa league. Ruben Amorim guided Braga to a 2-1 Win Sporting in the Semi Final of the league Cup followed by a 1-0 win in the Final vs Porto. He then defeated Sporting 1-0 in the League and a 2-1 win away to Porto followed by a 1-0 win away to Benfica. All of these wins in the same season and in 13 games. At this point the league was very well in notice and Sporting a club in turmoil at the time began to fantasize about the biggest coaching prospect In the country. Amorim quickly set up a system revolving around his 5-2-3 set up with guys like Joao Palhinha who was a loan at Braga at the time and striker Paulinho playing a big part of his tactical set up. This was "revolutionary" in Portugal as our league has been used to traditional 4-3-3 set ups as well and 4-4-2. None of the "Big Three" ever really played a five at the back formation with much success.

In the middle of the season Sporting took the chance before anyone else could and brandished 10M to SC Braga to acquire the services of Ruben Amorim. This was a decision that many Sporting fans were against as they could not understand how a coach with only 13 games under his belt could be worth so much. As far as Sporting fans were concerned Amorim was doomed to fail. When asked by journalists about the price tag and how much Sporting payed as well as the risk in investing that much money on a coach the common question by these same journalists was " What if it does not work out?" to which Amorim famously replied "What if it does?"

Ruben Amorim quickly made his mark on the team by focusing on 3 key points. 1). Returning Sporting to there roots of promoting young talent through our famed academy. 2). Investing in hidden talents in our own league. 3). The starting 11 is dictated by how the players perform in game as well as in training and not by stature.

Amorim quickly began to implant his 5-2-3 formation that emphasized on position less football with versatile players. There is no "striker" in the team but rather a conjunction of three forwards. When attacking the team would be constructed in a 3-4-3 with the wingbacks (Nuno Mendes and Pedro Porro) pushing forwards and providing with to the team. This was crucial as with any deep passes or over played crosses meant their was someone on the sidelines to retain possession. The back three was composed of Sebastian Coates acting as the anchor while the LCB (Feddal) and RCB (Inacio) were more ball playing center backs. This is crucial in his set up as the offense begins with the center backs. The midfield was constructed with a more defensive minded midfielder (Joao Palhinha) and either a box to box player (Matheus Nunes) or more possession based players like Joao Mario or Daniel Braganca. The front three interchange very often with Pedro "Pote" Goncalves cutting inside more while either Nuno Santos or Jovane Cabral provide more width. The "striker" Paulinho needs to be someone who can hold the ball up and be able to pass very well (someone like Jimenez or Benzema would be his wet dream).

Amorim focuses on a very strong defensive structure which focuses on recovering the ball as quick as they can after possession loss without breaking their shape. For example if Joao Palhinha rushes into a tackle to recover the ball or to press the opposition either a forward will drop down to cover that space or a center back will push up to cover the space with the left or right wingback covering the center back to create a back 3 and one of the wide forwards covering the space left by the wing backs. If the play is focused out wife one of the forwards will follow. If the play shifts sides Sporting do the same as to keep an aggressive shape to cause the opposition to make quick decisions and force a turn over of the ball. The key is to stay as compact as possible and force the other team to make a mistake. Sporting are very good at not letting people in behind due to this.

Amorim also likes to focus on Set pieces as a key way to score goals. Sporting have become set piece "specialists" under Amorim with 50% of their goals this season coming from set pieces. Coates is key in this as at 6'5 he he scored 7 goals last season and is on pace to break that this season. Amorim is not afraid of adjusting players to different positions that best fit the scheme of the team. For example before joining Sporting Pedro Gonçalves was primarily a CM who never scored more then six (6) goals in a season. Amorim pushed him into a RF position noticing his natural ability and attraction to the goal. This led him to being the top goal scorer in the league with 23 goals. Furthermore Amorim has prompted multiple youth products to the first team with Flavio Nazinho being the latest vs Dortmund. You could make a full starting 11 with players Amorim has prompted to the first team since taking charge of Sporting.

Ruben Amorim has also been able to show adaptability and an eagerness to learn and adapt. This was evident in his naiveness in his first ever Champions League game vs Ajax where Sporting was thrashed 5-1 by Ajax. After the game he admitted that not only is the squad young but the coach is young and they will learn from better more experienced coaches like Erik ten Hag. Many here labeled Sporting one of the worst teams in the competition after that game but Amorim quickly adjusted and put on a solid performance away to Dortmund before getting three (3) straight wins scoring 11 goals and only conceding three. In between European fixtures Sporting stayed consistent and continued to win in the league even with confidence was low.

The big games also don't seem to phase him as his record vs the "Big three" was not a one off. In Sporting Amorim has only lost one derby which came the matochday after the title in with a rotated squad. The scores are as follows:

VS Porto: (DWDD) 2-2 vs Porto, 2-1Win. vs Porto, 0-0, vs Porto, 1-1 vs Porto
VS Benfica (WL) 1-0 Win, 4-3 Loss
VS Braga (WWWWW) 2-0, 1-0, 1-0, 2-1, 2-1


Ruben Amorim has proven to be a terrific man manager and leader always knowing the right things to say especially with motivating his side. One thing he implemented in Sporting which became crucial in their title winning season is the never say die attitude with a big percentage of their goals coming after the 85th minute and many deep into stoppage time. His own remix to "Fergie time" if you will with the absolute most respect to the greatest coach of all time (IMO). This is helped by having Sporting overload the opposition box. One of the center backs (Coates) having clear instructions to join the attack when Sporting are down or need a goal deep into games. This culminated in multiple late game heroics by Sebastian Coates.

Now Amorim does come with his flaws one of them being his stubbornness in terms of his tactical set up. He is still only 36 years of age and it is clearly working bur I would like to see him implement different formations and tactical set ups. Then again who is to say he won't over time.

In conclusion Ruben Amorim has took a club which was in turmoil and resurrected them. He has turned Sporting into contenders again and has a project with them which is both beneficial for the club as well as for his growth as a coach. Ruben Amorim in just a little over a year has guided Sporting to three trophies one being the league title as well as a R16 berth in the CL. Only the second since the new format and the first in 12 years. Ruben Amorim has done so with his own style of play which has influenced his competitors like Jorge Jesus and at time Sergio Conceicao to do a similar five at the back formation.

At just 36 Years Old Ruben Amorim has justified his price tag by delivering million to the club as well as securing a title that has eluded Sporting for so long. While everyone was so focused on the risk of the price tag and looking at the bottle half empty Amorim looked at it as a glass half full.

"What if it works out"?

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Really appreciate your posts as your both knowledge and clearly in love with your club
(though harboring perhaps an unnatural resentment towards benfica:D)
So how do you think he may do over here at united knowing our amicable relationship do you think he'll be up to the task?
 
Apparently was a midfielder and they tend to be the best coaches in my eyes except the very few who were strikers or defenders.

Maybe we might see him at Wolves due to their Portuguese background first before he gets a club like United?

Sporting have looked good in the CL. I don't watch them except on highlights so I'm not sure if it's the manager influence or its the rise of some new batch of Sporting players like Pedro Gonclaves, Nunes, Palinha etc
 
Really appreciate your posts as your both knowledge and clearly in love with your club
(though harboring perhaps an unnatural resentment towards benfica:D)
So how do you think he may do over here at united knowing our amicable relationship do you think he'll be up to the task?
I think he as time to make a move like that. He is 36 years old and very young their is still so much to accomplish. I would not want him to make the same mistake AVB did after his Porto success.

Ahh yes my resentment for Benfica is very real:lol::lol::lol:
 
Apparently was a midfielder and they tend to be the best coaches in my eyes except the very few who were strikers or defenders.

Maybe we might see him at Wolves due to their Portuguese background first before he gets a club like United?

Sporting have looked good in the CL. I don't watch them except on highlights so I'm not sure if it's the manager influence or its the rise of some new batch of Sporting players like Pedro Gonclaves, Nunes, Palinha etc
Amorim was a versatile player which I think is something he has tried to implement in his team.

As far as the rise of talent in the club it its worth noting that the whole starting team was either promoted or bought by him. The only player from the old guard is the captain and leader of the club Sebastian Coates. So he has a big part to play of course.
 
Amorim was a versatile player which I think is something he has tried to implement in his team.

As far as the rise of talent in the club it its worth noting that the whole starting team was either promoted or bought by him. The only player from the old guard is the captain and leader of the club Sebastian Coates. So he has a big part to play of course.

That sounds good & promising.
 
I think he as time to Make a move like that. He is 36 years old and very young their is still so much to accomplish. I would not want him to make the same mistake AVB did after his Porto success.

Ahh yes my resentment for Benfica is very real:lol::lol::lol:
True forgot about avb certainly he or any upcoming Portuguese Manger must have that unfortunate event on his mind when making the decision to take the jump now though I certainly hope he turns out to be more of a jose story then the avb one

I wish you the best on your today's game and your European campaign (though obviously not to our detriment) your team has potential indeed unless its butchered by the European rich boys so I'm very excited to see how far you lot go
 
True forgot about avb certainly he or any upcoming Portuguese Manger must have that unfortunate event on his mind when making the decision to take the jump now though I certainly hope he turns out to be more of a jose story then the avb one

I wish you the best on your today's game and your European campaign (though obviously not to our detriment) your team has potential indeed unless its butchered by the European rich boys so I'm very excited to see how far you lot go
Cheers mate! I will be at the game today so I am excited ! Good luck to United vs Chelsea today as well, hopefully both of our clubs win.

I actually would love to face United in the R16 due to our clubs friendship as well as the homecoming of both Ronaldo and Bruno to the Alvalade. Would be a beautiful tie.
 
@SportingCP96 What sort of manager is he? If you have to compare him with one of Pep, Tuchel, Klopp, Conte which manager you would choose in terms of playing principles.

(please don't say he is his own style).
 
@SportingCP96 What sort of manager is he? If you have to compare him with one of Pep, Tuchel, Klopp, Conte which manager you would choose in terms of playing principles.

(please don't say he is his own style).
That’s tough but I’m going to try to answer your question.

I would probably say Conte from his earlier years at Juve both came in with a different style and idea of playing.

I also would sprinkle in a little bit of Tuchel when it comes to defensive shape.

Making these type of comparisons are tough. I also feel he learned a lot from JJ since he played for him.

He is very well spoken and he always seems to say the right thing which makes you get right behind the team. It’s hard not to like him.
 
First and foremost the title of this thread was @Adnan idea so I want to give him his credit before I begin.

mw-860


Ruben Amorim is a name that has been coming up in the press as of late and has been linked to United. What a good amount of people already know is that helped guide Sporting CP to their first league title in 19 years as well as a R16 berth in this years Champions League but what is his style of play and where did it all begin?

ACCOLADES:
League Title(s) - 1x
League Cup(s) - 2x
SupeTaça - 1x

Ruben Amorim was coaching in SC Braga youth setup before he was promoted to head coach following Abel Ferreiras departure. Not many people in the media paid to much attention to this move but right off the bat Amorim began to shake up the league with some huge statements wins.

In just 13 games as head coach of SC Braga Amorim accumulated FIVE (5) wins in rapid succession against Portugal’s traditional “Big Three” as well as winning a League cup and an impressive win vs Rangers in the Europa league. Ruben Amorim guided Braga to a 2-1 Win Sporting in the Semi Final of the league Cup followed by a 1-0 win in the Final vs Porto. He then defeated Sporting 1-0 in the League and a 2-1 win away to Porto followed by a 1-0 win away to Benfica. All of these wins in the same season and in 13 games. At this point the league was very well in notice and Sporting a club in turmoil at the time began to fantasize about the biggest coaching prospect In the country. Amorim quickly set up a system revolving around his 5-2-3 set up with guys like Joao Palhinha who was a loan at Braga at the time and striker Paulinho playing a big part of his tactical set up. This was "revolutionary" in Portugal as our league has been used to traditional 4-3-3 set ups as well and 4-4-2. None of the "Big Three" ever really played a five at the back formation with much success.

In the middle of the season Sporting took the chance before anyone else could and brandished 10M to SC Braga to acquire the services of Ruben Amorim. This was a decision that many Sporting fans were against as they could not understand how a coach with only 13 games under his belt could be worth so much. As far as Sporting fans were concerned Amorim was doomed to fail. When asked by journalists about the price tag and how much Sporting payed as well as the risk in investing that much money on a coach the common question by these same journalists was " What if it does not work out?" to which Amorim famously replied "What if it does?"

Ruben Amorim quickly made his mark on the team by focusing on 3 key points. 1). Returning Sporting to there roots of promoting young talent through our famed academy. 2). Investing in hidden talents in our own league. 3). The starting 11 is dictated by how the players perform in game as well as in training and not by stature.

Amorim quickly began to implant his 5-2-3 formation that emphasized on position less football with versatile players. There is no "striker" in the team but rather a conjunction of three forwards. When attacking the team would be constructed in a 3-4-3 with the wingbacks (Nuno Mendes and Pedro Porro) pushing forwards and providing with to the team. This was crucial as with any deep passes or over played crosses meant their was someone on the sidelines to retain possession. The back three was composed of Sebastian Coates acting as the anchor while the LCB (Feddal) and RCB (Inacio) were more ball playing center backs. This is crucial in his set up as the offense begins with the center backs. The midfield was constructed with a more defensive minded midfielder (Joao Palhinha) and either a box to box player (Matheus Nunes) or more possession based players like Joao Mario or Daniel Braganca. The front three interchange very often with Pedro "Pote" Goncalves cutting inside more while either Nuno Santos or Jovane Cabral provide more width. The "striker" Paulinho needs to be someone who can hold the ball up and be able to pass very well (someone like Jimenez or Benzema would be his wet dream).

Amorim focuses on a very strong defensive structure which focuses on recovering the ball as quick as they can after possession loss without breaking their shape. For example if Joao Palhinha rushes into a tackle to recover the ball or to press the opposition either a forward will drop down to cover that space or a center back will push up to cover the space with the left or right wingback covering the center back to create a back 3 and one of the wide forwards covering the space left by the wing backs. If the play is focused out wife one of the forwards will follow. If the play shifts sides Sporting do the same as to keep an aggressive shape to cause the opposition to make quick decisions and force a turn over of the ball. The key is to stay as compact as possible and force the other team to make a mistake. Sporting are very good at not letting people in behind due to this.

Amorim also likes to focus on Set pieces as a key way to score goals. Sporting have become set piece "specialists" under Amorim with 50% of their goals this season coming from set pieces. Coates is key in this as at 6'5 he he scored 7 goals last season and is on pace to break that this season. Amorim is not afraid of adjusting players to different positions that best fit the scheme of the team. For example before joining Sporting Pedro Gonçalves was primarily a CM who never scored more then six (6) goals in a season. Amorim pushed him into a RF position noticing his natural ability and attraction to the goal. This led him to being the top goal scorer in the league with 23 goals. Furthermore Amorim has prompted multiple youth products to the first team with Flavio Nazinho being the latest vs Dortmund. You could make a full starting 11 with players Amorim has prompted to the first team since taking charge of Sporting.

Ruben Amorim has also been able to show adaptability and an eagerness to learn and adapt. This was evident in his naiveness in his first ever Champions League game vs Ajax where Sporting was thrashed 5-1 by Ajax. After the game he admitted that not only is the squad young but the coach is young and they will learn from better more experienced coaches like Erik ten Hag. Many here labeled Sporting one of the worst teams in the competition after that game but Amorim quickly adjusted and put on a solid performance away to Dortmund before getting three (3) straight wins scoring 11 goals and only conceding three. In between European fixtures Sporting stayed consistent and continued to win in the league even with confidence was low.

The big games also don't seem to phase him as his record vs the "Big three" was not a one off. In Sporting Amorim has only lost one derby which came the matochday after the title in with a rotated squad. The scores are as follows:

VS Porto: (DWDD) 2-2 vs Porto, 2-1Win. vs Porto, 0-0, vs Porto, 1-1 vs Porto
VS Benfica (WL) 1-0 Win, 4-3 Loss
VS Braga (WWWWW) 2-0, 1-0, 1-0, 2-1, 2-1


Ruben Amorim has proven to be a terrific man manager and leader always knowing the right things to say especially with motivating his side. One thing he implemented in Sporting which became crucial in their title winning season is the never say die attitude with a big percentage of their goals coming after the 85th minute and many deep into stoppage time. His own remix to "Fergie time" if you will with the absolute most respect to the greatest coach of all time (IMO). This is helped by having Sporting overload the opposition box. One of the center backs (Coates) having clear instructions to join the attack when Sporting are down or need a goal deep into games. This culminated in multiple late game heroics by Sebastian Coates.

Now Amorim does come with his flaws one of them being his stubbornness in terms of his tactical set up. He is still only 36 years of age and it is clearly working bur I would like to see him implement different formations and tactical set ups. Then again who is to say he won't over time.

In conclusion Ruben Amorim has took a club which was in turmoil and resurrected them. He has turned Sporting into contenders again and has a project with them which is both beneficial for the club as well as for his growth as a coach. Ruben Amorim in just a little over a year has guided Sporting to three trophies one being the league title as well as a R16 berth in the CL. Only the second since the new format and the first in 12 years. Ruben Amorim has done so with his own style of play which has influenced his competitors like Jorge Jesus and at time Sergio Conceicao to do a similar five at the back formation.

At just 36 Years Old Ruben Amorim has justified his price tag by delivering million to the club as well as securing a title that has eluded Sporting for so long. While everyone was so focused on the risk of the price tag and looking at the bottle half empty Amorim looked at it as a glass half full.

"What if it works out"?

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Thanks for the the informative post.

He came to SCP very young, with a growing reputation and also with a lot of pressure due to the huge fee SCP shelled out to buy him out from Braga.

But he sure delivered at the club, which you quite correctly point out was in turmoil. He was up against two very strong traditional rivals in Porto and Benfica. SCP hadn't won the league for almost decades and not only did he end 19 years of hurt he also knocked Marco Rose and Dortmund out of the UCL, and they're now in the KO rounds of the UCL for the first time since 2009.

Still very young at 36, but he's achieved so much relative to his age. And he did that by having a defined style of play with heavy emphasis on developing youth.

He's reported to be on The United short list according to James Ducker, and is a head coach that is one to watch for now and the future.
 
That’s tough but I’m going to try to answer your question.

I would probably say Conte from his earlier years at Juve both came in with a different style and idea of playing.

I also would sprinkle in a little bit of Tuchel when it comes to defensive shape.

Making these type of comparisons are tough. I also feel he learned a lot from JJ since he played for him.

He is very well spoken and he always seems to say the right thing which makes you get right behind the team. It’s hard not to like him.

JJ was too attacking manager isn't it, reading your posts I thought Amorim is more safety first coach. Might be wrong but that's the impression I got.

Maybe it was too limited options, let me rephrase my question. When Sporting plays against tough teams like Porto, Benfica, Dortmund, Ajax do they try to take the game to opponents or they defend and hit the opponents on counters.

Also impressive how he changed everything so quickly, at least from results point of view.
 
Thanks for the the informative post.

He came to SCP very young, with a growing reputation and also with a lot of pressure due to the huge fee SCP shelled out to buy him out from Braga.

But he sure delivered at the club, which you quite correctly point out was in turmoil. He was up against two very strong traditional rivals in Porto and Benfica. SCP hadn't won the league for almost decades and not only did he end 19 years of hurt he also knocked Marco Rose and Dortmund out of the UCL, and they're now in the KO rounds of the UCL for the first time since 2009.

Still very young at 36, but he's achieved so much relative to his age. And he did that by having a defined style of play with heavy emphasis on developing youth.

He's reported to be on The United short list according to James Ducker, and is a head coach that is one to watch for now and the future.
Winning in Porto and Benfica is relatively “easier” then at Sporting. They have more money and power within the league but are also traditionally much better run clubs.

Coaches like Rui Vitória And Lage have won titles In Portugal and those guys would have been sacked if they coached Sporting as it is a much more difficult job.

Even the most decorated coach arguably in our league history Jorge Jesus who has won many titles and gone to two European finals and despite what rivals say he is a very good coach he was unable to win at Sporting and he had much more established squads. Even Leonardo Jardim who is very good faltered.

I don’t think people fully understand the wait and achievement of winning a title with Sporting especially in the manor in which they did it.

Porto or Benfica winning it is regular stuff.
 
JJ was too attacking manager isn't it, reading your posts I thought Amorim is more safety first coach. Might be wrong but that's the impression I got.

Maybe it was too limited options, let me rephrase my question. When Sporting plays against tough teams like Porto, Benfica, Dortmund, Ajax do they try to take the game to opponents or they defend and hit the opponents on counters.

Also impressive how he changed everything so quickly, at least from results point of view.
JJ teams have always been very defensively compact and have been known for that. His teams are very well coached and balanced. I think the got some ideas from him but they are different.

As for your other question, last season Sporting played more on the counter in the bigger games due to their inexperience and doubt in their own ability as well with respect to teams like Porto and Benfica.

This season I have noticed a shift. In the home game vs Porto we came for their throat right off the gate and the same was done vs Ajax (naive to do so) and Dortmund as well as Vs Besiktas. All in all I think Amorim prefers to play on the counter but I think it’s relative to the game.

The reason Amorim opts to play on the counter is because while we defend in a 5-2-3 shape we attack in a 3-4-3 which on the break puts us at a numerical advantage.

This coming week we play Benfica away and I expect us to play on the counter. Good game to watch if you have the time!
 
Winning in Porto and Benfica is relatively “easier” then at Sporting. They have more money and power within the league but are also traditionally much better run clubs.

Coaches like Rui Vitória And Lage have won titles In Portugal and those guys would have been sacked if they coached Sporting as it is a much more difficult job.

Even the most decorated coach arguably in our league history Jorge Jesus who has won many titles and gone to two European finals and despite what rivals say he is a very good coach he was unable to win at Sporting and he had much more established squads. Even Leonardo Jardim who is very good faltered.

I don’t think people fully understand the wait and achievement of winning a title with Sporting especially in the manor in which they did it.

Porto or Benfica winning it is regular stuff.
I absolutely agree, and your club has come a long way since the SCP fans attacked the players at the training ground in Alcochete. Those were dark days and it's remarkable how quickly Amorim turned things around at a club where the outlook looked bleak.

 
JJ teams have always been very defensively compact and have been known for that. His teams are very well coached and balanced. I think the got some ideas from him but they are different.

As for your other question, last season Sporting played more on the counter in the bigger games due to their inexperience and doubt in their own ability as well with respect to teams like Porto and Benfica.

This season I have noticed a shift. In the home game vs Porto we came for their throat right off the gate and the same was done vs Ajax (naive to do so) and Dortmund as well as Vs Besiktas. All in all I think Amorim prefers to play on the counter but I think it’s relative to the game.

The reason Amorim opts to play on the counter is because while we defend in a 5-2-3 shape we attack in a 3-4-3 which on the break puts us at a numerical advantage.

This coming week we play Benfica away and I expect us to play on the counter. Good game to watch if you have the time!

Thank you. His CV is so impressive.

Btw I like JJ, shame he never managed outside Portugal/Brazil. Would have loved to see him managing in PL, La Liga, Serie A.
 
I absolutely agree, and your club has come a long way since the SCP fans attacked the players at the training ground in Alcochete. Those were dark days and it's remarkable how quickly Amorim turned things around at a club where the outlook looked bleak.


As he pointed out the key to the clubs growth is consistency. Awesome we made the R16 but that should be something a club of our size should aspire to do consistently. The way these bigger games become a formality and the way you grow as a club and become better is by playing the Dortmund of the world and other more consistently. Where does that begin? In the league. As he pointed out Sporting should not have to wait nearly 20 Years for a title. The club needs stability and need to be able to hold onto their core players to achieve that. Making the CL meant we only last Nuno Mendes from the team (We chose to not get Joao Mario). With this R16 berth and hopefully if we make the CL again that will allow us to only have to sell one key player every summer and then using that money to reinvest and stay competitive. These are all thing he pointed out that he is spot on about. That is how we can compete more regularly.
 
Thank you. His CV is so impressive.

Btw I like JJ, shame he never managed outside Portugal/Brazil. Would have loved to see him managing in PL, La Liga, Serie A.
I think the reason for that is he is an old style coach and he did not want to learn other languages. He has shown his ability in Europe and has many impressive wins over the giants of the game. Even with Flamengo he barely lost to Liverpool.

His Benfica sides that went to the EL Finals in 12/13 13/14 and the semi finals in 11/12 were very good. A semi final and 2 finals in 3 years is nothing to be ashamed of.
 
Forgot to mention he's a massive Benfica fan as well I think didn't you? :D
 
I think the reason for that is he is an old style coach and he did not want to learn other languages. He has shown his ability in Europe and has many impressive wins over the giants of the game. Even with Flamengo he barely lost to Liverpool.

His Benfica sides that went to the EL Finals in 12/13 13/14 and the semi finals in 11/12 were very good. A semi final and 2 finals in 3 years is nothing to be ashamed of.

Jesus can barely speak Portuguese tbf :lol:
 
Forgot to mention he's a massive Benfica fan as well I think didn't you? :D
So was ronaldo to be fair and they do have a habit of converting prior infidels so who knows where his allegiance might lie now
 
So was ronaldo to be fair and they do have a habit of converting prior infidels so who knows where his allegiance might lie now

Amorim played for Benfica for years, a little bit different to recruiting a spotty Madeiran teenager!
 
Hes class. Thats not a surprise cause hes a Benfica lad he learned well.
 
For sure you can write nice texts when you're not furious :angel:
Jorge Jesus was his major influence. The 3 at the back is not exactly new to Jorge Jesus, he used that system a lot at Estrela (he actually made a very good work there taking Estrela to Uefa cup)
 
For sure you can write nice texts when you're not furious :angel:
Jorge Jesus was his major influence. The 3 at the back is not exactly new to Jorge Jesus, he used that system a lot at Estrela (he actually made a very good work there taking Estrela to Uefa cup)
Your one of the Benfica fans I like ! I get very emotional with these things.

I agree I emphasized above how he learned a lot under JJ who he played Under for many years.
 
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