Roy Keane

Just watched his interview with Gary. A really good watch! Reveals so much of the other side of him that we don't usually see.
 
I have just seen it and I have always liked Roy and he comes across a s a funny likeable guy in my opinion
 
There was an interview from eons ago when we were going through a bad patch and he said he’d only pay to watch Rooney, Ronaldo and Ruud. Something along those lines.

Must’ve been shortly before/after he left.
Even though it was a bit of a lean period, it’s incredible to think that we had a team with Rooney, Ronaldo, and Ruud in it (not to mention Scholes, Giggs, and Keane.)
 
What I wouldn’t give for a Roy Keane now.
A manager on the pitch.A leader.

Definitely a great a leader but what often gets overlooked these days is that he was an actual world class midfielder.
In his prime from 1996 - 2001 before he had hip surgery imo he was consistently top 3 in his position.

Techincally he was a very sound player.

He had a good range of passing, a clean shot, his timing of his runs into the box was good, he tracked runs perfectly, had the stamina of a long distance runner, could cover ground like no other (think Kante) and could tackle, read the game well and chip in with goals....

Very intelligent player. Not just the bawler he is often portrayed today.
 
Definitely a great a leader but what often gets overlooked these days is that he was an actual world class midfielder.
In his prime from 1996 - 2001 before he had hip surgery imo he was consistently top 3 in his position.

Techincally he was a very sound player.

He had a good range of passing, a clean shot, his timing of his runs into the box was good, he tracked runs perfectly, had the stamina of a long distance runner, could cover ground like no other (think Kante) and could tackle, read the game well and chip in with goals....

Very intelligent player. Not just the bawler he is often portrayed today.
Totally agree.
 
Roy Keane was the reason I started supporting United along with Schmeichal. Funny the two of them had a drunken brawl :lol:
 
I loved the way Roy dictated games, he could speed it up when needed or slow it down, his passing was so underrated. It always seemed so simple, yet when you see how he always played forward passes and and always found a teammate, compared to some modern mids who can't do it at all consistently. I hate going to the physical aspect of his game and I think it under values his ability, but even then some of his actions dictated the game. One instance, about 45 secs into Ireland v a fancied Dutch team, he crunched Overmars in a tackle. That set the tome for the rest of the Irish team that day, who fought like demons. Another one, Utd v Arsenal, Pires and Neville had a row, Pires uncharacteristically swung his hand at Neville, obviously very angry. Next ball Keane clatters Pires, 2 mins later Wenger subbed PIres. As many remember Pires was a sublime player, Gary Nev rattled him, Keane sent him over the edge. An arsenal team minus him was a weaker team.
 
Keane was our most important player in the 99 season. The poor performance in the European Cup final can be explained by his absence
 
Keane was our most important player in the 99 season. The poor performance in the European Cup final can be explained by his absence
Well obviously him and Paul were huge misses, just Keane’s mentality would of been huge but the performance was ok that Bayern side where incredible so being out played wasn’t that bad.
CM is the most important position for dominating or even getting footholds in games and we really lacked that in 99.

The Keane performance in Turin is the best performance from a United player for me, he knew he was out of the final yet literally lead us too the final. What a captain he was
 
He wasn’t a mighty sword like Bruno or Pogba but he knew how to play the field both ways from the middle, and you’d expect him to know how to change the game when down to 10 men.

It seemed at Young Boys like all our midfield and forwards knew was how to attack. No attempt to keep the ball or play it smart at all.
 
Thought we were better than Bayern in both group matches that campaign, really shouldn’t have drawn them, although the home tie fizzled out a bit when both sides knew they were going through if I remember correctly. Anyway Keane was excellent in both ties.
 
Even though it was a bit of a lean period, it’s incredible to think that we had a team with Rooney, Ronaldo, and Ruud in it (not to mention Scholes, Giggs, and Keane.)
The lack of a top Keeper and the sale of Jaap Stam cost that team big.
We should have won another CL between 2001 - 2004
He wasn’t a mighty sword like Bruno or Pogba but he knew how to play the field both ways from the middle, and you’d expect him to know how to change the game when down to 10 men.

It seemed at Young Boys like all our midfield and forwards knew was how to attack. No attempt to keep the ball or play it smart at all.
Prime Keane would tear Bruno and Pogba apart. He'd dominate them.
 
He wasn’t a mighty sword like Bruno or Pogba but he knew how to play the field both ways from the middle, and you’d expect him to know how to change the game when down to 10 men.

It seemed at Young Boys like all our midfield and forwards knew was how to attack. No attempt to keep the ball or play it smart at all.
What you mean by mighty sword ? Yes he would score or assist like Bruno due too the difference in position but even with the level and stats Bruno has he hasn’t got a patch on Keane
 
Thought we were better than Bayern in both group matches that campaign, really shouldn’t have drawn them, although the home tie fizzled out a bit when both sides knew they were going through if I remember correctly. Anyway Keane was excellent in both ties.
Correct me if I'm wrong but we faced them lot a total of four times after that and I remember us being the better team on those days even though we lost the quarter final on aggregate and the other two resulted in draws?

Can't quite put it down but we never could beat them constantly and I think that irritated Keano as he gave that infamous interview
 
Whatever happened between him and Sir Alex. I love them both and it’s sad to see.
 
The lack of a top Keeper and the sale of Jaap Stam cost that team big.
We should have won another CL between 2001 - 2004

Prime Keane would tear Bruno and Pogba apart. He'd dominate them.

totally agree.

We had a world class quartet in midfield and a fantastic set of goalscorers. defence and goalkeeper let us down a bit.

Should've bought Van Der Sar in '99 and brought in a quality partner for Stam and we wouldve been sorted in Europe.
 
Whatever happened between him and Sir Alex. I love them both and it’s sad to see.

I feel that their clash was inevitable. First of all Sir Alex moved Keane from a B2B player into a DM. That was driven by circumstances (Ince departure, Scholes emergence etc) but was set to cut Keane's career short by at least 2 years. Secondly Keane himself said that he was often told to play despite being injured. Again that was necessary as he was instrumental for our success but it did had an impact on his career. I believe that by the end of it, Roy was pissed off that Sir Alex did what was good for the club rather then to him. Sir Alex did put the club second with the likes of Fletcher and Gaz.
 
totally agree.

We had a world class quartet in midfield and a fantastic set of goalscorers. defence and goalkeeper let us down a bit.

Should've bought Van Der Sar in '99 and brought in a quality partner for Stam and we wouldve been sorted in Europe.

true. Unfortunately all that matter for United was the EPL. The CL was always seen as a bonus.
 
That's bollocks

Edwards said that in an old interview. Think about it. United had just won the treble. All we needed was 3 signings (GK, LB and CB) to repeat the feat. Instead we went on through the most skint of transfer windows with us buying Inter's reject, a player from the Atletico Madrid B side, a free transfer and a goalkeeper from Venezia. That's something even the likes of West Ham would be ashamed off.
 
I feel that their clash was inevitable. First of all Sir Alex moved Keane from a B2B player into a DM. That was driven by circumstances (Ince departure, Scholes emergence etc) but was set to cut Keane's career short by at least 2 years. Secondly Keane himself said that he was often told to play despite being injured. Again that was necessary as he was instrumental for our success but it did had an impact on his career. I believe that by the end of it, Roy was pissed off that Sir Alex did what was good for the club rather then to him. Sir Alex did put the club second with the likes of Fletcher and Gaz.
The problem with great players is they will never come to terms with becoming average. If you look through all the great players, Henry, Berkamp, Gerrard, Robson, Best, they all kind of fell out with their managers towards the end of their careers because they were no longer first choice. This must be so hard to take and will always end in tears in some way or another. The only player I can think of who never had this issue was Eric. That’s because he quit at his peak.
 
The problem with great players is they will never come to terms with becoming average. If you look through all the great players, Henry, Berkamp, Gerrard, Robson, Best, they all kind of fell out with their managers towards the end of their careers because they were no longer first choice. This must be so hard to take and will always end in tears in some way or another. The only player I can think of who never had this issue was Eric. That’s because he quit at his peak.
When was that?
 
Keane was our most important player in the 99 season. The poor performance in the European Cup final can be explained by his absence

I thought we were the better team in the final that year. But then again I suppose apart from us scoring more, having more shots on target and having more possession they were all over us.
 
I thought we were the better team in the final that year. But then again I suppose apart from us scoring more, having more shots on target and having more possession they were all over us.

You've obviously forgotten the 99 final first half, where Bayern could and should have been 2 or 3 ahead. We rode out luck to say the least.
 
You've obviously forgotten the 99 final first half, where Bayern could and should have been 2 or 3 ahead. We rode out luck to say the least.

Yeah, curious post. We were on the ropes for large parts. Saved by the post twice. We did not look anywhere near as functional with no Scholes or Keane, and with Giggs on the right.
 
Yeah, curious post. We were on the ropes for large parts. Saved by the post twice. We did not look anywhere near as functional with no Scholes or Keane, and with Giggs on the right.

It was a scrappy game with Bayern trying to kill the game dead at every opportunity, we didn't have the quality to break them down for long periods until the closing minutes but the suggestion we were heavily outplayed and lucky to win just isn't true.
 
I thought we were the better team in the final that year. But then again I suppose apart from us scoring more, having more shots on target and having more possession they were all over us.

Nah we weren't. But since we won we only remember the good ;) . Had we lost it would have been remembered as a terrible performance considering how good we were prior to that in the tournament.
 
totally agree.

We had a world class quartet in midfield and a fantastic set of goalscorers. defence and goalkeeper let us down a bit.

Should've bought Van Der Sar in '99
and brought in a quality partner for Stam and we wouldve been sorted in Europe.
Can remember thinking Neil Sullivan was the man for the job
 
Nah we weren't. But since we won we only remember the good ;) . Had we lost it would have been remembered as a terrible performance considering how good we were prior to that in the tournament.

I have literally watched the full game loads of times, we weren't great but Munich certainly weren't either.
It was a scrappy game, largely down to us being without Keane and Scholes and not being able to penetrate their defence after they scored a soft early goal, they were happy to sit back and hit us on the counter and almost put the game beyond reach but we were definitely the team that was playing the better football and going forward more, obviously in no small part to needing an equaliser.
Jesper Blomqvist missed a sitter from six yards out that I could have scored, not only did he miss it, he scooped it about 20 yards over the bar.
Munich's problems really began when they took Mattheus off after he had been running their defence superbly, after that they went to panic stations and we capitalised.
The suggestion we didn't deserve to win is inaccurate though. We had more possession, more shots on target and more importantly scored more.
One thing it did confirm to me though was that Beckham wasn't a top class box-to-box midfielder, obviously he is a world-class right sided midfielder, but he was doing a lot of running about that reminded me of Fred a little bit, in that it was a headless chicken performance at times.
That said his energy levels were superb and he was still sprinting them down and spraying great passes in injury time.
Anyway this is a weird hill for me to choose to die on ha, ha.