Get Harry Maguire the feck out of my club
Ronaldo & Maguire power struggle
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You know how the whole point of (Pop) Idol was to laugh at people suffering from Dunning Kruger syndrome? Maguire is the football equivalent of that.
He's a disgrace.
He's a disgrace.
While I think Maguire is a terrible captain, and almost certainly won't be made a captain under the new manager, I don't think now is the right time for this. Losing the captaincy now will reflect terribly on him and will create unnecessary divide within the team. Leadership doesn't require the armband, and Ronaldo can lead and be influential without being a captain.
Who says that?
Reminds me of Nevilles claim in like October that the Ronaldo and Varane signings "unnerved" Maguire
I'd take a lot of players as captain over Maguire to be honest.
Yes for the majority of papers, but for those three there’s maybe one between them worth their salt.
Also go on, name the journalists who are reporting this. Are they reputable?
Disco Mirror sounds like a shit 80s band.
De Gea couldn't have fared any worse with the role and he's actually been an asset to the team for years.
Was surprised Bruno didn't get it at the time though even after a few months. He was the established leader of the squad by that point and playing his arse off
Maguire basically got the role because he’s English as far as I can tell. He hasn’t been at the club very long, isn’t much of a leader or very vocal, and doesn’t inspire confidence with his performances or lead by example.
Ronaldo is probably the captain in the dressing room but then I feel like he shouldn’t be playing every game anyway. I think I’d like to see Bruno get it. He’s got the right blend of leadership and consistency. Ronaldo is probably off soon unlike him.
Ronaldo is probably the captain in the dressing room but then I feel like he shouldn’t be playing every game anyway. I think I’d like to see Bruno get it. He’s got the right blend of leadership and consistency. Ronaldo is probably off soon unlike him.
Ronaldo would be a better captain than Maguire.
Reading this thread reminds me why I have avoided Redcafe so much over the past 12months. So much hate for a player who is underperforming not for lack of trying . Yet lads like Rashford get am easy pass because he is from the academy even though half the time it feels like he can't be arsed. Pathetic.
The caf has forgotten how in his first 12months at the club he was the the only fit and consistent presence in that defense.
The caf has forgotten how in his first 12months at the club he was the the only fit and consistent presence in that defense.
Agree. Get both Maguire and Ronaldo the feck out of my club.
Get Maguire out of my pub!
The Rashford thread is a cesspool of hatred.
Maybe refrain from commenting on the state of the Caf if you don't actually read it?
That opinion is immaterial. The armband has a level of respect that's demanded when worn. Even though I agree with you he shouldn't be captain.
Hi Harry, hand in the armband, that's a good lad.
Ronaldo has his issues but at least he has standards ffs. Maguire has been terrible and I’m concerned he’s on the decline.
It’s an absolute mess. I get it, some players have a loyalty to Harry over Ronaldo and why wouldn’t they? It’s no different to any workplace and I’m guessing some of these relationships exist outside of football. Not sure you can give the armband to a player that depending on where we finish, might not be here anyway. I would give it to Varane.
It's nothing compared to what I have read compared to Harry. I have never liked him or his style of defending. Always felt like he was trying too hard to be a hardman in defense due to his size when being smart and a little reactive (not always rushing out to challenge) and I even commented on another forum that I would not be surprised to see Lindelof become Varane's long term partner.
My issue is the abuse. Why do man UtD fans ALWAYS say such hateful things about our players???.
Here's the latest leak. Actual footage of Ronaldo's chat with Maguire.
This makes sense for a lot of reasons and I've been advocating for this for a few weeks. Maguire is in shocking form and should concentrate on his fitness, speed and positioning. You cannot be respected as a captain and manager when you can't walk the walk yourself - it's like s software manager that can't code ! 
Ronaldo is low on confidence and maybe the captain role would help that temporarily. He is, let's be fair, a bit of a whiney bollocks though. So it might backfire. Hopefully not though.
Ronaldo is low on confidence and maybe the captain role would help that temporarily. He is, let's be fair, a bit of a whiney bollocks though. So it might backfire. Hopefully not though.
I disagree that there is no comparison. Some people absolutely despise Rashford on here.
If you disagree fine, but consider that:
Maguire is consistently stinking up the place. He's the captain, nearly always plays and his competition is outperforming him whenever they do play.
Rashford's biggest competition is practically a baby and he still gets dropped a hella of lot. Meaning he gets less time to stink up the place, and in effect, stinks up the place less.
The club isn't in a good state and I think the fact that he's the captain and has 133 caps has a lot do with it. Am I not entitled to having this opinion on him when he's been stinking it up for the better part of 3 seasons?
Fact is United would be all the better with Maguire out the club. He isn't a leader, isn't a starting quality CB and ultimately doesn't have the mentality to be a Manchester United player.
That's not a fact. It's your opinion.
Ronaldo vs Harry
Swole doge vs Crying cheems
Giga chad vs Bad luck bryan
Goat vs Average player enjoyer
Swole doge vs Crying cheems
Giga chad vs Bad luck bryan
Goat vs Average player enjoyer
Surely they are not switching the captaincy in mid season.
I think Ronaldo would be a better captain.
But mid season?
Long term I would give it to Bruno. He is a natural.
I think Ronaldo would be a better captain.
But mid season?
Long term I would give it to Bruno. He is a natural.
Surely there can't possibly be a power struggle, Harry knows Ronaldo's a better centre back than him.
Sounds like a load of nonsense.
I think it's just a convenient article to coincide with Maguire's awful form. Stick the knife in a little bit.
I think it's just a convenient article to coincide with Maguire's awful form. Stick the knife in a little bit.
This is as close to newspaper nonsense as you’re getting.
We’re an easy target at the moment and will continue to be until we’re good again. I won’t hold my breath.
We’re an easy target at the moment and will continue to be until we’re good again. I won’t hold my breath.
If someone puts in crap performances consistently and gets called out for it, it is not hatred. I don't know why people want the fans to sit and constantly praise Maguire, Rashford, Pogba, even when they put in crap performances.
Accepting mediocrity has been the club's bane for a decade now. Which is why we start throwing 200k and 250k contracts for 4-5 months of good form. Even the players know the template to get a flashy new silly money contract
Agreed.
The other thing I like about Ronaldo is that he still has the mentality of a winner. When he last played for MUFC, we were on top.
Maguire hasn't ever seen us at the top and certainly doesn't have the pedigree of Ronaldo, who is one of the greatest players of all time.
If I launch a pig from a trebuchet it's sorta flying, but not of its own steam. So truth is in the middle.
I‘m not sure where the problem is. The only thing that distinguishes a captain from his teammates is that he is the one who is involved in the coin toss and who is our direct link speaking to the ref.
For all of the other qualities, i.e. leadership, role-model, etc. you do not need to be a captain. Captaincy is just about vanity.
Just to be clear, I don‘t think Maguire is suited either way. And if he, as reported, won the penalties toss and chose the goal instead of shooting first, he should not be allowed to wear that armband ever again.
For all of the other qualities, i.e. leadership, role-model, etc. you do not need to be a captain. Captaincy is just about vanity.
Just to be clear, I don‘t think Maguire is suited either way. And if he, as reported, won the penalties toss and chose the goal instead of shooting first, he should not be allowed to wear that armband ever again.
They both need to leave.
I'm not Ronaldo's biggest fan, but Maguire needs to go.
It sounds like something straight out of Football Manager
Maybe this story is a total made up, but it is also so obvious that Maguire leadership has been non-existence. He does not lead the defence line, and he does not lead by examples.