They're both cuptied and I can't see us spending big money on a winter transfer who can't play in the CL. If its true that Ronaldinhio is leaving PSG then it will probably be to Italy and then we'll buy Cisse....but not until the summer.
BTw Ronaldinho wasn't at training yesterday (the first day after the truce). He's still in Brazil. His excuse is that he has a dental problem but PSG bosses don't believe him. A clash ?
we could buy a striker in Jan and he would half a season to bed in and preseason next year, that way we would have better chance of winning the premiership this year, as we would have a proper alternative (foil) to Ruud.
and having a settled team next year.
and having a settled team next year.
Some of you still dont get it. What is our biggest weakness this season?
Our failure to score goals. Not to create chances.
Ruud makes a MASSIVE impact on our team, not just cos of his goals, but in our overall dangerous-ness as a team. This is cos he is a damn good centre forward, he holds the ball up, receives the ball, gives us something to aim for.
Our biggest weakness is when he isnt in the team, it not only takes away his goalscoring, but it takes away his overall play. He does things no one else in our team can do.
So we buy Ronaldinho to play behind Ruud, this is overkill. Paying £20mill to solve a problem that ISNT our weakness. Sometimes i think some of you are blind.
What happens when Ruud is injured? YOU KNOW we cant rely on him all season. No matter who plays behind him, Scholes, Giggs or Ronny, we cant rely on one man all year, injuries or not, one man cant score all the time.
We need to reduce this reliance on Ruud or we lose. Simple as that. To suceed with just Ruud would need close to awesome performances from Forlan and co.
Our failure to score goals. Not to create chances.
Ruud makes a MASSIVE impact on our team, not just cos of his goals, but in our overall dangerous-ness as a team. This is cos he is a damn good centre forward, he holds the ball up, receives the ball, gives us something to aim for.
Our biggest weakness is when he isnt in the team, it not only takes away his goalscoring, but it takes away his overall play. He does things no one else in our team can do.
So we buy Ronaldinho to play behind Ruud, this is overkill. Paying £20mill to solve a problem that ISNT our weakness. Sometimes i think some of you are blind.
What happens when Ruud is injured? YOU KNOW we cant rely on him all season. No matter who plays behind him, Scholes, Giggs or Ronny, we cant rely on one man all year, injuries or not, one man cant score all the time.
We need to reduce this reliance on Ruud or we lose. Simple as that. To suceed with just Ruud would need close to awesome performances from Forlan and co.
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Ronaldinho has not been coming back to training after X mas break...
Ronaldinho has not been coming back to training after X mas break...
I've got a feeling if we do buy a striker when the window opens, it won't be a long term investment. I've got a feeling we'll go for an experienced forward, maybe even on a loan deal. I think Fergie has someone in mind in the summer but can't get who he wants right now.
I'd be prepared for us signing someone that probably won't be all that popular with the fans. ie. another Andy Goram.
I'd be prepared for us signing someone that probably won't be all that popular with the fans. ie. another Andy Goram.
Billy Dodds has just signed for Dundee Utd. He´d have fit your bill, 77.
Originally posted by Jens:
<strong>Billy Dodds has just signed for Dundee Utd. He´d have fit your bill, 77.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Maybe Andy Goram wasn't the best analogy then...
Far be it from me to post rumours... but... a striker is coming and he's not going to set pulses racing.....
get him
after reading this pretty good thread and the comments enclosed, in particular from the likes of Elfie, i think i'm changing my mind about ronaldinho. i dont want another yorke character, please no.
we're talking about ronny as if we would be getting the best of him, but how many times a year would he be away brushing his teeth in a brazialian whorehouse? how many games would he miss and how much would fergie want to wring his neck?
has saf met ronaldinho or done any research on his chracter of course he must have, this is ferguson, right? i dont hear a great deal coming from ot about him, saf has mentioned cisse a couple of times.
how much of the best of ronaldinho would we see in cold (but blessed) manchester? how much would we be gasping at his international antics on football focus whilst he comes home a week later and shows up knackered for a big game?
i dont know guys and gals, and i dont know about that price tag either Nistelrooy10 - 10-12 mil in a bidding war with the eyeties? i would think psg would want to keep us bidding upwards, the problems they have.
he's a wonderful player, but is all i'm saying maybe not for us.
we're talking about ronny as if we would be getting the best of him, but how many times a year would he be away brushing his teeth in a brazialian whorehouse? how many games would he miss and how much would fergie want to wring his neck?
has saf met ronaldinho or done any research on his chracter of course he must have, this is ferguson, right? i dont hear a great deal coming from ot about him, saf has mentioned cisse a couple of times.
how much of the best of ronaldinho would we see in cold (but blessed) manchester? how much would we be gasping at his international antics on football focus whilst he comes home a week later and shows up knackered for a big game?
i dont know guys and gals, and i dont know about that price tag either Nistelrooy10 - 10-12 mil in a bidding war with the eyeties? i would think psg would want to keep us bidding upwards, the problems they have.
he's a wonderful player, but is all i'm saying maybe not for us.
I doubt he's like Yorke. He's a much more gifted footballer, though I would be a bit concerned about the party boy mentality.
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>I doubt he's like Yorke. He's a much more gifted footballer</strong><hr></blockquote>
According to a story in the Sun during World Cup time, he is also more gifted in bed
I watched United v Arse (6-1) on MUTV lately (well, the Israeli version of). The idea of a more gifted footballer than Yorke is Pele or Maradona. When Yorke wanted to, he was the best striker in Europe.
after todays match id prefer to see Cissee anyway.
i dont want ronaldinho
CISSE is my 1st choice he more powerful and faster than Henry and a few years younger.
Auxerre have other strikers good enough for the french league and EUFA cup, so they could sell.
Ronaldhino is class but he would do a lot of travelling for internationals, we already have Veron doing that.
Auxerre have other strikers good enough for the french league and EUFA cup, so they could sell.
Ronaldhino is class but he would do a lot of travelling for internationals, we already have Veron doing that.
Further to recent Ronaldinho rumours:
From Teletext:
BRAZIL STAR RONALDINHO STILL AWOL
World Cup winner Ronaldinho has not returned to Paris St Germain after holidays in Brazil, fuelling rumours that he is about to leave the club.
Ronaldinho was expected to resume training with team-mates on December 28 but did not show up and is now set to miss the French club's first round cup game against Besancon at the weekend.
The forward has been linked with Manchester United in recent weeks.
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BRAZIL STAR RONALDINHO STILL AWOL
World Cup winner Ronaldinho has not returned to Paris St Germain after holidays in Brazil, fuelling rumours that he is about to leave the club.
Ronaldinho was expected to resume training with team-mates on December 28 but did not show up and is now set to miss the French club's first round cup game against Besancon at the weekend.
The forward has been linked with Manchester United in recent weeks.
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french bloke says united have had a 15m euros bid rejected and psg are holding out for closer to 30m euros
talks ongoing but ronaldinho is said to be going mad because he wants to join us so bad
french bloke says united have had a 15m euros bid rejected and psg are holding out for closer to 30m euros
talks ongoing but ronaldinho is said to be going mad because he wants to join us so bad
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
<strong>I fecking well hope not!</strong><hr></blockquote>
15 euoros = 10 pounds (roughley)
so we offered about 10 million.
well Nardiello coud be the perfect player to fill RVN's boots if we need, as he is strong and can take players on.
Ronaldhino on the other hand would add extra attacking power, but would mean no Cisse .
so we offered about 10 million.
well Nardiello coud be the perfect player to fill RVN's boots if we need, as he is strong and can take players on.
Ronaldhino on the other hand would add extra attacking power, but would mean no Cisse .
i'd have cisse over ronny.
french players tend to settle in quicker.
french players tend to settle in quicker.
I'm with the Cisse/Shevchenko/John bloody Hartson/Anyone who can score headers, crowd. The sooner we get back to 4-4-2 to better.
if u guys (some...) don't like RVN, why don't give chance to Ronaldinho!!!
Ronaldinho, Cisse, or any forwards with that kind of world class talent would be good enough for me. I just hope we get them this Jan cos we aren't scoring goals like we used to the last few seasons. After the Blackburn game, I still miss the speed and the skill of Cole and Yorke. Just imagine if we still have either of them here, we should be stronger than we are. I just hope Ruud will not get injured or we will really be in trouble.
United made a 10 million pound bid for RONALDINHO and
it has been rejected by PSG. . . they are asking for 20 mil.
Go for it Ferfy, we need him!
it has been rejected by PSG. . . they are asking for 20 mil.
Go for it Ferfy, we need him!
We desperately need another striker, although I'm not sure that Ronaldinho foots that particular bill. He's more of a winger who surely wouldn't oust either Giggsy or Becks when everyone is fit. Personally I'd prefer Simon Davies from Spurs over Ronaldinho, but back to the striker we need, why not Fernando Morientes from Real Madrid. A conisitent & classy performer, who although he wants to stay is clearly uwanted at the Bernabeau and I reckom would be tempted to come to OT
Yes but you must bear in mind that as long as Fergie is at the helm, we will be frequented with 4-4-1-1 type formation. If we get another striker it will be for a small amount, and mainly for cover as oppose to a major role.
It is my strong opinion that United need a player who can fill Giggsy shoes. He is, in my opinion, on a downward spiral and I honestly question whether he will ever again show the consistent form that he showed in the late 90s. Fair is fair, the lad is getting older and has had his fair whack of injuries. All good things must come to an end some time; this is why I feel a bid for Ronaldinho is on the cards, and would be quite apt for our current situation.
It is my strong opinion that United need a player who can fill Giggsy shoes. He is, in my opinion, on a downward spiral and I honestly question whether he will ever again show the consistent form that he showed in the late 90s. Fair is fair, the lad is getting older and has had his fair whack of injuries. All good things must come to an end some time; this is why I feel a bid for Ronaldinho is on the cards, and would be quite apt for our current situation.
Apparently he will stay with PSG until the end of the season, although if he doesn't change his attitude he won't play much. The fact is that PSG has better results without him. Incredible ! He has even missed two penalties in a row. He was very popular among PSG supporters but now it begins to change. His behaviour is not professional enough. He goes out too often (he is often seen at the Parisian strip-tease club Stringfellows...), even just before games. He was more serious last year when his mother and and sister were in Paris, but they have come back to Brazil now. Worse, when he has come back to training,after the winter truce, he was five days late. Allegedly, he had a dental problem...
So yes, this guy is a great talent, but he will have to change his attitude if he wants to progress. However, the French press says that United is still intersested and that he will leave PSG at 95 % in June.
So yes, this guy is a great talent, but he will have to change his attitude if he wants to progress. However, the French press says that United is still intersested and that he will leave PSG at 95 % in June.