That's inevitable.
Fair to assume the media will approach the situation in exactly the same manner. The tedium.
Romelu Lukaku vs Alvaro Morata 2017/18
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That's inevitable.
Fair to assume the media will approach the situation in exactly the same manner. The tedium.
Surely if we were rating him higher than Lukaku we would've offered more to Real.
Even if they sold him for less than we offered to Chelsea it won't make sense to not sell him for what we've paid for Lukaku.
Morata not too impressive so far in pre-season and there's even talk that Conte could go with Batshite as the striker (possibly Morata behind?). Conte after the Inter friendly:
"Morata is having training with us and for sure he has to improve a lot his physical condition to go quickly to the idea of our football,’ he added, ‘but he is working very well and today he tried to do his best but for sure he has to improve.”
"Morata is having training with us and for sure he has to improve a lot his physical condition to go quickly to the idea of our football,’ he added, ‘but he is working very well and today he tried to do his best but for sure he has to improve.”
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Morata was never Conte's first choice. This is obvious. I think he will do okay at Chelsea but he won't score as many goals as Lukaku.
Bump. Both had good performances but if we are keeping score goals wise - Lukaku leads 2 to 1.
Morata was playing with only 8 team mates. That multiplies his goal by 3 as everyone knows. Morata 3, Lukaku 2.
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Bump. Both had good performances but if we are keeping score goals wise - Lukaku leads 2 to 1.
Didnt Morata have an assist as well? He also started of the bench.
If we use the Canadian system its 4 vs 3. Not bad for either.
Bump. Both had good performances but if we are keeping score goals wise - Lukaku leads 2 to 1.
Rom has one European goal too so 3-1
Morata did well to be fair. He showed for the ball a lot more than Batshuayi.
I've always maintained that Lukaku and Morata are very similar players. They are both target men with some unique skill set. Both of Morata's goal and assist were proper target man stuff. I mean that in a positive way.
I preferred Lukaku though for his directness and experience as a main striker in PL. I think he will be more of a leader for us.
I've always maintained that Lukaku and Morata are very similar players. They are both target men with some unique skill set. Both of Morata's goal and assist were proper target man stuff. I mean that in a positive way.
I preferred Lukaku though for his directness and experience as a main striker in PL. I think he will be more of a leader for us.
Lukaku has 3 goals. Super Cup goals are official goals.
Albeit, Morata has played a game less and also set up an assist.
Albeit, Morata has played a game less and also set up an assist.
If a Chelsea player scores there's a 1 in 9 chance it's Morata, Lukaku's was 1 in 11, tougher odds, ergo, his goals are worth more. We win.
That is a good point. However, the true count is "goals multiplied by assists" . Morata is 1 x 1 = 1. Lukaku is 2 x 0 = 0.
Maybe too early to call him a flop but he's a flop.
Logic checks out. Flopkaku
Morata will score nicer goals, but Lukaku will score more goals. That's the way I see it.
All goals are nice, that's the way I see it. The more the merrier.
Lukaku will score a variety of goals -- I'd rather that than nicer goals.
Excluding own goals obviously, there's no such thing as a bad goal. He can score tap ins for all I care, Van Nistelrooy proved that, in scoring, quantity is better than quality. Which to be fair should always be the case in football anyway.
Lukaku isn't a target man. He's getting better at holding the ball up and playing with his back to goal but he's much better facing toward goal than away from it, and he's at his best when he can run onto through balls into the box. He should be a target man because of his size and strength but he plays much more like a Torres than a Heskey.
Winning the game adds an extra three points though so it ends up being morata 1 and Lukaku 3.
In my opinion Torres was a target man as well. The way I understand the term, a target man plays inside the box or just outside depending on the phase of play. A striker who is always an option for wide men to whip in a cross or midfielders to bounce off the ball for a quick one two inside the box. A player who occupies centre backs. Holding the play is a part of it too but not all of it.
Who had more sprints?
Now you're just being ridiculous.
Close thread.
Not sure if anyone has used this term this season but not signing Morata was a blessing in disguise surely
Lukaku is not a target man type striker it's his size that fools people in to thinking that. He is far better running in channels behind the opposition defence and positioning.
Target men run channels too. What is this notion that they just stand there and head the ball? Those are just bad target men like Andy Caroll. Target men are strikers who will be available inside the box for midfielders and wingers to target at least that's my understanding. Holding the ball is a single part of this which Lukaku can improve on. Actually his holding ability isn't bad, but often at Everton he tried to dribble or turn towards goal when the easier option would have been to just wait for his team to arrive.
Morata also played for 15 minutes. Goal and assist in 15 minutes compared to the full game for Lukaku. Since were keeping tabs lets be fair to both players ffs.Bump. Both had good performances but if we are keeping score goals wise - Lukaku leads 2 to 1.
A target man in my opinion is what the words imply, a player you try to get the ball to as fast as possible while in attack, it can be long balls, on the ground etc.. Usually theese players move deeper down the field and preferably have a good first touch to glue the ball and a good vision and technique to continue the attack through a pass, flick on etc to other offensive players ( Not Lukakus strengths in my opinion ). Sometimes they finish the attacks but it's not their primary objective.
Usually target men accumulate alot of assists because of their role, Romelu has scored 87 goals in his premier league career and has 28 assists which in my opinion shows he's a finisher and not the "playmaker". And looking at his heatmaps and runs you see he likes to move in line with the offside and not infront of the defenders waiting for the ball. It's like saying Inzaghi was a target man just because his team-mates passed him the ball while he was running in channels. I'm not in any way stating any facts just my opinion on the defenition of a target-man. Altough I agree Morata fits the role of a target-man but not Lukaku. Lukaku for me is a physical pure nr 9 type player. He does what we needed the most this season, he puts the ball in the back of the net.
Todays game was a perfect example of his movement. Because of his movement close to their back 4 he created space for our other attacking players because they were busy adjusting to his positions. He moved like RVN used to do, who in my opinion is one of the best pure strikers we ever had.
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Didnt we have a Di Maria vs Sanchez topic once.... that didnt end well did it?
Would love if next game he scores 3 again with this 8 team mates ratio.
Bump. Both had good performances but if we are keeping score goals wise - Lukaku leads 2 to 1.
You obviously missed the bit about one playing for 30 minutes and the other for 90.
This obsession with individuals I find strange. I'd take Morata scoring shit loads more than Lukaku if it meant that we win the league.
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You find football fans talking about football players on a football forum a little strange?
Batshuayi looked terrible and Willian looked incredible, and if he beats out Pedro, that will help the 9 score more goals (Pedro the better scorer, Willian the better creator). Morata is going to score 25 this year.
We also had a Herrera vs Kante thread. Kante went on to win Player of the year. These threads don't work out well for us.