We did this with Pogba.
Romelu Lukaku | Chelsea
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I think a big problem is Lukaku has put the expectations on his head with his actions.
He left Chelsea age 19 because we wouldn't abandon the signing of Costa and put all our eggs in his basket, then he left you lot the moment he had to fight for his place (both times he used some pretty underhand tactics to get what he wanted).
When a player acts like he does he has to fully back it up on the pitch, he doesn't.
Oh yeahWe did this with Pogba.
fair pointWe did this with Pogba.
We didn’t get rid of him though, he left despite efforts to keep him.
We would have kept him if we really really wanted. Fergie made the right decision letting him go.
It clearly wasn’t SAFs decision, by his own account we wanted to tie him down on a new deal but Paul decided to run down his contract and leave.
Still early days, but he had a team that worked perfectly for him in Italy, i know the lure of PL is strong, but he probably should have stayed tbh.
We should sign Haaland this summer to really test this striker graveyard hypothesis. If he fails here too, then there's clearly something in the air at Cobham that hypnotises the strikers, and I absolve all the #9's that have struggled at Chelsea over the years.
Fergie gave him a contract that he wasn’t interested in. If Fergie wanted to he could have literally given him an offer he couldn’t refuse (including playing time). Fergie made the right call letting him go.
His improvement in Italy was playing in a league where even Ciro Immobile can bang 35 goals and taking penalties. He's still the same streaky player.
And has the touch of a Rooney career to him too. Big lad who's been playing football since he's 16. You can see how hard it is for him to get fit after an injury. He'll be done as a top player early 30s.
And has the touch of a Rooney career to him too. Big lad who's been playing football since he's 16. You can see how hard it is for him to get fit after an injury. He'll be done as a top player early 30s.
Agree with that, I'll be surprised if Lukaku has much longevity once he's hit 30 for a top club.
I have no idea how you can equate SAFs efforts to keep Pogba to the act of actively selling a player you don’t want/need, as was the case with Chelsea and Lukaku.
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We did this with Pogba.
we didn’t get rid of Pogba. at any point.
we tried all stops to keep him. Ferguson even sent Evra and Rio to his house. They are on record stating as much.
He’ll be ‘world class’ again in a year when the World Cup comes around and he can score a few in the group stages with De Bruyne and Hazard feeding him. And the cycle continues
Hazard feeding someone other than himself seems unlikely at this stage
Reinvented himself in Italy, or something
Right answer. Glad you can see what many of us have seen for a long time!
And then lose him on a free ...
What’s that you hear…more excuses. That sounds like Lukaku alright. Never seen a player thrive on so many excuses. Can’t fit into Utd, can’t fit into Chelsea. When do people accept he’s genuinely a bang average player with below average technique.
He probably means Thorgan Hazard, his older brother isn't really a footballer anymore.
Most of us saw this even when he had his honeymoon phase with you, we were just passed off as jealous because he "rejected" us (that or the topic was deflected to Morata).
Nah but seriously Conte has really worked on his first touch and now it’s one of the best in world football. He’s world class, possibly the best striker in world football and certainly better than a 36 year old Ronaldo…
Well I can confidently say I’ve always said he’s average and never wanted him at Utd. He just lacks the technical ability for top teams of the mentality to make up for it. Nice to keep his cult in the dirt.
Conte gonna get found out at spurs also...
If I speak…
He's not good enough to have a team built around him, which is what needs to happen at Chelsea for him to thrive.
Coming off an injury, so not going to say too much but he simply doesn't fit their system. Scoring against shit is his bread and butter, and while West Ham are far from shit, he has best record vs them of any PL club.
Coming off an injury, so not going to say too much but he simply doesn't fit their system. Scoring against shit is his bread and butter, and while West Ham are far from shit, he has best record vs them of any PL club.
Don’t let the truth get in the way of good ol’ Pogba slander. He isn’t playing at the moment so people are having to go to great lengths to berate him.
As for Ron, I’ve always liked him as a player& think he’s class. He’ll have uses for them at points this season.
Yeah, he is good striker but not 100 million striker. Not good enough or at a level where team can afford to carry his defensive duties and his limitations. He will score decent number of goals as they create lot of chances.
Chelsea look more dangerous with Werner as CF as he pulls the CBs all over the place and he is very quick.
Also regarding his record vs West Ham, he scored lot of goals when they were shit. From last season they are miles better compared to their previous version.
So when he'll start training with Anderlecht again?
Not worth 100m. But still an upgrade for Werner I guess?
You're imagining things.
Pogba left because Fergie couldn't guarantee him game time. Two things decided it for him: SAF fielding Ji Sung Park and Raphael in midfield in one game ahead of him, and Scholesy coming out of retirement and straight into the team vs. City.
Despite what you might think, Fergie has dropped clangers in his time. Selling Stam too early for one.
You’re missing the point. If the club wanted to keep him they could have.
There’s a difference between wanting to keep him and wanting to keep him at all cost.
Pogba left because his shit house agent got in his ear.
Tuchel seems like a pretty open guy. Could be first to just tell him he's shit.
And we would have kept him if he was worth keeping.
Scapegoat post honestly. And this isn't a direct response to your post, but more so the general attitude that Lukaku ruined a "perfect thing" at Chelsea.
CL win aside, Chelsea were not this rampaging attacking unit before Lukaku arrived. They didn't outperform Ole significantly after Tuchel arrived, last season. They qualified for 4th place on the last day of the season with iffy form prior, and lost the FA Cup to Leicester.
Most of their goals this season have been from defenders. All their attackers have struggled this season due to lack of form or injuries.
It's telling that all people can point to is "they look better with Lukaku on the pitch"... They didn't look any better against West Ham before Lukaku came on. They didn't look too imperious against United with Lukaku on the bench. Ziyech is struggling for form. Ditto for Havertz. Werner is a joke. Countdown to when Pulisic gets injured again.
Yet Lukaku is the player supposedly holding Chelsea back from sheer attacking greatness, a greatness that they have never displayed on a consistent basis in the Tuchel era? Yeah ok.
Immobile had 19 goals in 28 games in Europe. Put some fecking resp- naaaah can't do it, cnut cost us the world cup
Chelsea did look better before Lukaku came on yesterday. By some distance to be honest.
I also don't think it's that debatable that Chelsea have looked significantly better in his absence than with him. No-one is claiming the team is Brazil 1958 without him.