Romelu Lukaku | Chelsea

roonster09 said:
No it wasn't, unless you think technical level of championship level is so high that it's as good as PL.
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Just imagine a clone of him minus the pace and strength. That player would be in the Championship, not the PL. His dribbling stats are down purely to his pace, he falls over his own feet whenever he tries a step over ffs. Technically he is possibly the worst player in the PL. The simple act of controlling a long ball, a given for any player at this level, is beyond him.

There are plenty of players in the Championship who are technically good enough to play in the lower PL, it's the pace and intensity that is different.
 
11101 said:
Just imagine a clone of him minus the pace and strength. That player would be in the Championship, not the PL. His dribbling stats are down purely to his pace, he falls over his own feet whenever he tries a step over ffs. Technically he is possibly the worst player in the PL. The simple act of controlling a long ball, a given for any player at this level, is beyond him.

There are plenty of players in the Championship who are technically good enough to play in the lower PL, it's the pace and intensity that is different.
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Remove pace and strength from any player and they will be sitting at home watching on tv.
 
Whenever I think of Lukaku I think of his smug interview after the game against Arsenal and laugh at what's happened since then :lol:
 
TrustInJanuzaj said:
Hes PL mid table level because he’s fundamentally techically flawed. And he’s proving that yet again. Flopped at Utd hard, flopping at Chelsea even harder. He’s average and his goal record doesn’t cover up those deficiencies.
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I think he'll be fine as a squad player/super sub who knows his place (he's actually had a few good performances off the bench since he's been dropped and was unfairly robbed of the winner in the cup final) but sadly his ego got in the way.
 
Dancfc said:
I think he'll be fine as a squad player/super sub who knows his place (he's actually had a few good performances off the bench since he's been dropped and was unfairly robbed of the winner in the cup final) but sadly his ego got in the way.
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Its either his ego or his weight.

Or maybe its because he puts on his Tims and jeans before going to work?
 
roonster09 said:
Remove pace and strength from any player and they will be sitting at home watching on tv.
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Tell that to a 37 year old Ronaldo. Or all time top scorer and slowcoach Alan Shearer. Or any of the other dozens of great strikers who weren't blessed with pace and strength.
 
Didn't even play one single minute today.. In Chelsea starting XI only one time in the last 2 months (9 Premier League games, less than 150 minutes played)..

His time at Chelsea is over..
 
Where to next for Rom?

Newcastle? Lewandowski replacement at Bayern?
 
11101 said:
Tell that to a 37 year old Ronaldo. Or all time top scorer and slowcoach Alan Shearer. Or any of the other dozens of great strikers who weren't blessed with pace and strength.
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Not sure what to tell if you think Ronaldo doesn't have pace or Shearer didn't have strength.
 
New ownership could be open to selling him at a cut price and just right it off as the previous ownership's mistake.
 
Attila said:
Where to next for Rom?

Newcastle? Lewandowski replacement at Bayern?
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:lol:

Like replacing your Rolls-Royce with a Leyland van. Though to be fair, he could probably just stand on the penalty spot and knock in as many goals in Germany as he did in Serie A.
 
SadlerMUFC said:
You do realize that's exactly what I said in my OP right? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Well I was trying to illustrate what I meant in my original post that you replied to.
I'm well aware of different profiles that could fit a 442 system my point was that lukaku due to his attributes needs to be good in that department if he was to make it work in that formation, something which you'd expect him to be good at while he surprisingly isn't.
Not a comparison with other strikers that's all.
 
roonster09 said:
Not sure what to tell if you think Ronaldo doesn't have pace or Shearer didn't have strength.
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Ronaldo was blessed with both and Shearer was an absolute brute as well as being a gifted footballer. There are probably the worst two examples possible for this.

Lukaku is a very good CF, he just isn’t what Chelsea needed and he doesn’t have the skill set that people assumed he would have given his build.
 
V.O. said:
:lol:

Like replacing your Rolls-Royce with a Leyland van. Though to be fair, he could probably just stand on the penalty spot and knock in as many goals in Germany as he did in Serie A.
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He didn’t score that much in Serie A. 17 non penalty goals per season is not that special.

Why on earth would Bayern settle for that? And why would they replace Lewy with a player as limited technically as big Rom is?
 
Maluco said:
Ronaldo was blessed with both and Shearer was an absolute brute as well as being a gifted footballer. There are probably the worst two examples possible for this.
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I think he meant the current version of Ronaldo. He is nowhere near as fast as he used to be. But he’s still a very reliable goal-scorer.
 
Stacks said:
wrong. In Italy they play with more tactical intelligence, where as England is more chaotic. Lukaku is a student of the game so aligns with Italy's superior football
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Lukaku is a flat track bully. Even in England, change teams next season and when he is not in pressure, he will stat pad against weak teams and score 20+ goals a season easily.
The key words here are no pressure and weak teams. Even with other weaknesses in his game, lukaku is a goalscorer.
 
Maluco said:
Ronaldo was blessed with both and Shearer was an absolute brute as well as being a gifted footballer. There are probably the worst two examples possible for this.

Lukaku is a very good CF, he just isn’t what Chelsea needed and he doesn’t have the skill set that people assumed he would have given his build.
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Bolded the relevant part for you.
 
Stacks said:
wrong. In Italy they play with more tactical intelligence, where as England is more chaotic. Lukaku is a student of the game so aligns with Italy's superior football
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Average strikers are having fun in Italy.
 
Anustart89 said:
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You can tell he is immersed in American culture and that he has quite a few American sports players as friends, because the way he speaks about his own performance is kind of what you'd expect Ja Morant or some WR in the NFL to say. It seems more normal to see players confidently state how good they are in those sports than in Europe.
 
Pintu said:
He didn’t score that much in Serie A. 17 non penalty goals per season is not that special.

Why on earth would Bayern settle for that? And why would they replace Lewy with a player as limited technically as big Rom is?
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Because big Rom said that he belongs in that bracket of strikers. Hard to make a pass on that.
 
WeePat said:
You can tell he is immersed in American culture and that he has quite a few American sports players as friends, because the way he speaks about his own performance is kind of what you'd expect Ja Morant or some WR in the NFL to say. It seems more normal to see players confidently state how good they are in those sports than in Europe.
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I don't see that honestly, he's just cocky.
 
WeePat said:
Don't know. He wasn't always like this. His cockiness and his American accent developed almost in parallel lines :lol:
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I've noticed the American thing he tries to do as well and it's just so bizarre but its kinda endearing to be honest :lol:
Hes always been arrogant to a certain degree , he wouldn't have left Chelsea the way he did otherwise.
 
Red the Bear said:
I've noticed the American thing he tries to do as well and it's just so bizarre but its kinda endearing to be honest :lol:
Hes always been arrogant to a certain degree , he wouldn't have left Chelsea the way he did otherwise.
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He always had self-belief. He left Chelsea because, like many others, he correctly ascertained that Chelsea would rather buy a striker than give a young player like him a chance.

The way he speaks about his own game and performances, and the American accent, is somethingI only started noticing in the last 4-5 years.
 
WeePat said:
He always had self-belief. He left Chelsea because, like many others, he correctly ascertained that Chelsea would rather buy a striker than give a young player like him a chance.

The way he speaks about his own game and performances, and the American accent, is somethingI only started noticing in the last 4-5 years.
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Maybe he fancies himself more as basketball player than a footballer.

Kinda strange how he further developed that mentality in italy were ill assume the American influence isn't as strong.
 
WeePat said:
You can tell he is immersed in American culture and that he has quite a few American sports players as friends, because the way he speaks about his own performance is kind of what you'd expect Ja Morant or some WR in the NFL to say. It seems more normal to see players confidently state how good they are in those sports than in Europe.
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This isn’t even rooted in reality. Most of the athletes in American sports default to team cliches in interviews. It’s just the twats like Lukaku who toot their own horns at every opportunity.
 
WeePat said:
He always had self-belief. He left Chelsea because, like many others, he correctly ascertained that Chelsea would rather buy a striker than give a young player like him a chance.
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I see it the other way tbh.

If he had that much belief in himself he would have looked at Torres, Ba and an 32 year old Eto'o and been like "meh, I'll be first choice at Christmas" and the guy he claims to idolise would have seen a signing like Costa as motivation not a reason to run.

If he was then unfairly left out totally for months like KDB was then fair enough (I don't think he would have been as Remy played many minutes even when Costa was firing) but he bolted and gave up on his supposed dream at the first sign of trouble twice.
 
MvG said:
This isn’t even rooted in reality. Most of the athletes in American sports default to team cliches in interviews. It’s just the twats like Lukaku who toot their own horns at every opportunity.
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I mean it's not a hill I'm willing to die on, but the 'he can't guard me' stuff is very common in the NBA. Jalen Green was asked about what he learnt about himself in his rookie season. His answer: "that I'm a bucket". That's the kind of thing I'm referring to.
 
Dancfc said:
I see it the other way tbh.

If he had that much belief in himself he would have looked at Torres, Ba and an 32 year old Eto'o and been like "meh, I'll be first choice at Christmas" and the guy he claims to idolise would have seen a signing like Costa as motivation not a reason to run.

If he was then unfairly left out totally for months like KDB was then fair enough (I don't think he would have been as Remy played many minutes even when Costa was firing) but he bolted and gave up on his supposed dream at the first sign of trouble twice.
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He had belief in his own ability but that self-belief also came with the knowledge that he wouldn't get a chance at Chelsea and our transfer activity was his proof. He was correct, whether he hung around long enough to not be given a chance or not is kinda immaterial to me. I don't think Mourinho would have given him a real chance and he was right to feel that way and ask to be sold.

He'd already seen Sturridge fail to be given a starting role despite being better than Torres and whoever else was there at the time.
 
Me at the beginning of the season
He doesn’t cut it in the PL, goes to a lesser league, scores a shit ton, then Chelsea brings him back here for 100 million why??
 
TheRedHearted said:
Me at the beginning of the season
He doesn’t cut it in the PL, goes to a lesser league, scores a shit ton, then Chelsea brings him back here for 100 million why??
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And the most predictable defense ever - He's not being properly used
 
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