Well yeah… it’s Romano??
Romano : Ole Sacked
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That is absolute nonsense.
I know Ole isn't very popular right now, but let's not get daft.
What’s Nurse saying?
So much hyperbole.
Meh. It's done now. It was inevitable. Thanks for what was done. He was a Point A to Point B manager. He couldn't get them to Point C and beyond.
Still don't think the players should be getting away free here. They were pathetic today bar Donny and Jadon.
Meh. It's done now. It was inevitable. Thanks for what was done. He was a Point A to Point B manager. He couldn't get them to Point C and beyond.
Still don't think the players should be getting away free here. They were pathetic today bar Donny and Jadon.
He’s leaving behind a lot of players. Whether it’s a coherent squad is another story. It’s hard to see how we can make Cavani and Ronaldo work but also bring through Greenwood Sancho and Rashford. Big decisions will need to be made because we need to prioritise one or the other.
Also do we stick or twist on Lingard and Pogba.I get the feeling they could be convinced to stay but perhaps the new manager won’t want them.
After spending hundreds of millions of pounds (£500m?) what signing did Ole make that improved our squad the most, in your opinion? (other than Varane, who’s barely featured)
We just had a bid rejected for Wesley Sneijder
Bruno?
I wasn’t talking about money, just that he has left the club in a better place to move forward from than previous managers. Something you seemingly disagreed with.
he was getting some kind of tune out of these players last year, Shaw was doing well, rashford is just back from a long time out, Bruno and Maguire in dreadful form but have come off decent seasons, it’s not all that bad it just hasn’t happened this year. Hopefully the new maanger can kick on with a good amount of these players and not need a massive overhaul.
Good but as I keep saying, it's way too fecking late now. Also Carrick or Fletcher for interim? Are you fecking serious? It's not going to get any better until summer which is when we'll have to throw a bag at someone decent.
Where have I said them caring about the club is the right reason? You've completely made that up. I've not said those managers cared about those clubs either, again, you're just making nonsense up.
What I said was that Zidane has never had any interest in either playing OR managing in England. So little interest that he has never learned English because it has not been part of his agenda. Klopp, Guardiola, Tuchel were all open about the possibility of working in England prior to joining English clubs, they all spoke English prior to joining English clubs. They joined those clubs because it aligned with the positions at that stage of their careers, whereas not only has Zindane never shown interest in England, he has also been very public about his desire to have a year off.
So yes, for all of those reasons, if he were to suddenly decide to take our job - especially given even the press are saying how much work we need to do to convince him and that we are offering more and more money - then I don't think anyone could safely say he would be coming here for the right reasons, it would be a payday while he waits for the PSG or France job to open up.
Correct answer. One player who’s a bona fide hit, after three years in charge and all that money spent. Hardly the radical improvement I keep reading about.
Because Ronaldo left before his prime. Again, he's the best player to ever kick a ball in my eyes, he's a footballing legend just not an United one.
Guess it depends on whether looking at ability or what they gave to United. I don’t think anyone is saying Ole was a better player but he still has positive attributes over them.
For example, he was here longer, never tried to manoeuvre a transfer away, scored more United goals then Ronaldo? so some people will see that as a reason(s) to rate him. Others will look at the levels Cole, Ronaldo and Yorke reached
I do think it's a better squad than we had when he arrived, but maybe that's just on paper it looks better.
I mean you could argue the fact he managed to put together a pretty good squad and then produced the performances and results we've seen in the last 12 months or so is yet more proof of what a poor manager he is.
How can you finish 2nd last season, add Sancho, Varane and Ronaldo and play like this?
Rooney? 13 years. 400 goals, one of the best players ever, yet you claim Ole is a much bigger legend. Bizarre.
Bruno seems to be the obvious answer to that question. Turned things around from the word go, and seemed a bit of a gamble at the time considering his cost and league he came from.
I've wanted him sacked since the Villa defeat but him high fiving Maguire today after the red card was probably the first time I was genuinely angry at Ole.
Sums up everything wrong with us. I'm not asking for Ole to punch Maguire, although I wouldn't be upset if he did, but don't fecking high 5 the daft cnut for getting sent off.
Where is the accountability?
Sums up everything wrong with us. I'm not asking for Ole to punch Maguire, although I wouldn't be upset if he did, but don't fecking high 5 the daft cnut for getting sent off.
Where is the accountability?
Because, in my opinion, he is. The only reasons Rooney even had the chance to get the record are a) we didn't sell him when he demanded we did and b) we didn't get rid of him when he was a complete shell of himself for the final 2 years.
What do you mean by this? To me, a meme is those funny pictures that are used as covert propaganda, in that case every single manager since and including Fergie has been memed. I don't think it's ever gonna stop really with a new manager.
I agree with this.
If you think Rooney and Ronaldo are bigger legends then fine, it's a fair shout at it's up to you.
I'm not having fecking Dwight Yorke is a bigger Utd legend than Ole though.
Then why didn't Ole resign? Clearly not good enough.
We're bring in Ole as an interim to steady the ship after the mess Jose left.
The writing was on the wall after the Young Boys loss. We came into this season in a shocking form after the later stages of last season, it continued into this.
Yeah this collapse actually started at the end of last season looking back.
Last year our main rivals were all in transition/bad year due to injuries. No other team was consistent enough to mount a serious top 4 challenge.
We started horribly (stuffed by Spurs at our own turf), ended badly and our game was nothing short of individual effort and nicking wins.
Our record against the decent sides was also all over the shop and rather negative - lost and drew against Arsenal, two draws against Chelsea, lost and drew Pool, lost and drew against Leicester, lost and won against Spurs and drew and won against City
Basically 2 wins, 6 draws and 4 losses against those sides. It was nothing to brag about.
Current state of affairs:
LB - no depth and Shaw in miserable form, probably even worse than Maguire.
CB - Maguire needs to be replaced if we are to play in a more progressive style
RB - needs to be replaced and no depth at all.
CM - completely overhauled.
CF - Cavani and Ronaldo - both at the end of their careers. It's not Rashford or Greenwood best position and Martial needs to be moved on.
We have probably 4 left wingers that fight for 2 places.
Pogba and Bruno are not ok to play together and Pogba looks off either way.
We have loads of deadwood to ship on fantastic contracts like Martial, Mata, Maguire.. and others that no one will take - Jones, Bailly, Telles, Grant, Henderson, etc..
on top of that one of the greatest wage structures I've seen.
Yea Where are those posters like the mods golden blunder and tomcato and the like with their fake advisarial view points now??
And all the rawk like banning of good posters that don't fit into their mindsets.
Ole Goner Solskjaer.
The only frustrating thing is it should have been done after liverpool.
I hope Ole doesn’t take this too hard, no doubt he’s hurting right now. I hope we can go on to remember him fondly for the right reasons.
The only frustrating thing is it should have been done after liverpool.
I hope Ole doesn’t take this too hard, no doubt he’s hurting right now. I hope we can go on to remember him fondly for the right reasons.
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What's the expectation for the rest of the season then, if you get a new manager in? Say for arguments sake, it's Zidane or Rodgers.
We have better individuals, but not a better squad. It's a complete mishmash of styles. It's no surprise we have better individuals, considering the money spent either.
Champions League and FA Cup double. Which will turn into top 4 when the new guy comes in and 3 months later this squad turns out to need 4-5 new starters
Even with his sacking the fan base is still so divided over his legacy. We'll see more in coming months/years but I think we might be in denial as to how much of a rebuild has actually been done in the past few years. As well as some of Ole's signings listed above, I'd forgotten all about Martial and Dalot too, more suspects to add to the list of possible deadwood that still hasn't been cleared.
CL qualification, maybe quarter finals of the CL, promotion of Hannibal Mejbri.
My point is that - so what if it's a payday? He has his own pride and ambitions, he won't take a pay and do feck all. He will still do his job best he can for himself. That's fine by me if it wins
Well this squad is a lot better than what we’re currently seeing so top 4 with a good showing in the CL and maybe an F.A Cup.
Don't you dare tell me we're not getting Gaitan and Batistuta
Tricky one. Can’t really say UCL winners when the new manager might be all but out of it before being hired.
Certainly CL qualification and to play good/cohesive football, if there’s a discernible style and good results then I’d be happy. Quite low expectations but hard to ask someone joining us in November to win the league, and the FA cup is a little bit of a crap shoot.
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