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Are Chelsea currently able to sign players from their academy, or is this prohibited as well?
Are Chelsea currently able to sign players from their academy, or is this prohibited as well?
Are Chelsea currently able to sign players from their academy, or is this prohibited as well?
Precisely that. Don’t they usually receive a new contract, or their first professional contract when that happens?What do you sign players from the academy? As in promote academy players to the first team?
Precisely that. Don’t they usually receive a new contract, or their first professional contract when that happens?
Precisely that. Don’t they usually receive a new contract, or their first professional contract when that happens?
If something doesn't change next week.... I can see Chelsea suspending the girls team to allow the mens to carry on running.
Will be difficult with no active bank account or credit cards
No, if they are going to do this they should suck it up and go full nonsense: just shut the whole team down. Team busses getting stuck because they don’t have a credit card for gas? It’s ridiculous, and an unneeded circus. They found no violations from Roman. Boris said so himself. This is literally happening because of the optics around the moron fans in Stamford Bridge singing. There was no issue until the moment that happened. So just full on punish the fans. Use the seized assets to pay off the remaining year of the staff and players and shut it all down.If something doesn't change next week.... I can see Chelsea suspending the girls team to allow the mens to carry on running.
Will be difficult with no active bank account or credit cards
He would have been preparing for this day since he stole the money. All crooks have a back up.Reckon he'll have a few million stashed away in a shoe box under his floorboards. I wouldn't worry about him struggling to pay the utility bills let's put it that way
Agreed.
Genuinely made me quite depressed to see how little anyone gave a shit about literal murderers taking over their club because it got them Tripier.
"The beautiful game"
Even if you are right, that will never happen.if there would be some sense left in football dodgy ownership of clubs like city and newcastle would also get more critisized now. just get rid of them all, even if this would meen a liverpool dominance for some years
As much as I hate them, now I am starting to think that at least they are a proper club and I would prefer them to surpass us (we will still have a chance to make it up latter) then to see plastic corrupted clubs destroying the sport we love.Isn't it super fecking annoying that manager putting Liverpool back on the perch is actually a good egg?
Cnut can't even be a cnut.
Civilians making business from wars and other bad bad things… I have no sympathy for the guy. He knew about the invasion and is close to Putin.I suspect. This will have ramifications on the long term investment climate in UK.
People will start moving away their asset for fear of being frozen
I personally do not agree freezeing assets of civilians. Abramovich maybe oligarch but his involvement isnt black and white and there's no clear ruling on his misdoing yet, apart from to be fair highly likely. But what's involved, how much, etc are yet to ve ruled by the authority.
Seizing assets just like that never bodes well in my book.
You are correct. This could be devastating for the UK, especially after Brexit. And it actually isn’t “fairly likely”. Roman has been specifically trying to distance himself for decades, there have been a TON of forensic audits. And this was a point that was investigated WHEN he bought the team. This is happening because of the singing incident, and the fact they are “seizing” instead of just “freezing” is something anyone with investment money will and should notice. What if Richard Branson sold all of the Virgin group, moved to Malibu and bought the Lakers… and a twisted hypothetical UK government decided to militarily reoccupy areas in, say, North Africa. The world was aghast. And so the obvious move would be to seize the Lakers and everything Branson owns … because that would make sense, would obviously help, and doesn’t seem like targeting someone solely for their birth nationality at all …I suspect. This will have ramifications on the long term investment climate in UK.
People will start moving away their asset for fear of being frozen
I personally do not agree freezeing assets of civilians. Abramovich maybe oligarch but his involvement isnt black and white and there's no clear ruling on his misdoing yet, apart from to be fair highly likely. But what's involved, how much, etc are yet to ve ruled by the authority.
Seizing assets just like that never bodes well in my book.
They don’t seem to care who is ACTUALLY bad or not. Bin Salman is a walking human rights violation, Murdered an American citizen, and is currently, ACTIVELY meeting with Putin to help him… and you let him buy Newcastle.Yeah, the government isn’t agreeing to this
Yes. Anyone who has to ask that has never been to both places. You see messy, counter argumentative news and articles coming out of the US because people have the freedom to do so. If a police officer breaks the law and hurts someone it becomes big news because we have the freedom to make it so.Understandable. If he and his partners in the private consortium aren't linked to the Saudi state in any way (and I have BIG reservations about that claim), would they really be any different, ethically/morally speaking, than an investment group from the US?
Yes. Anyone who has to ask that has never been to both places. You see messy, counter argumentative news and articles coming out of the US because people have the freedom to do so. If a police officer breaks the law and hurts someone it becomes big news because we have the freedom to make it so.
In Saudi Arabia they disappear you. Whenever you see news coming from a country about how the people move in lockstep rhythm, without dissent, ask yourself: what kind of force and horror is necessary to maintain that?
Real freedom, and real morals for that matter, ARE messy and constantly being protested and questioned.
His letter said the proceeds would go to victims of the war. It was left so open he could have easily meant “Russian soldiers”Fun but maybe moot question: if the growing narratives are true, and you believe even Romans offer to give all net proceeds from sale to Ukraine are all just smokescreens for his obvious evil agenda…
He obviously supports Chelsea. It’s been his toy for the last two decades. Why wouldn’t he want the club he supports to continue to do well? What is virtuous about that?then why are we hearing from the groups that were applying for purchase that Romans demands centered almost exclusively around prospective buyers agreeing to things like continued investment in the academy, the securing of a new stadium, and a dedication to investment in the team? He won’t even be the owner anymore.
They’re sanctioning the club because he owns it. When he doesn’t own it, sanctions will be lifted. I’m not sure what you are finding difficult here. There’s no conspiracy.OR, is it more likely that opposing team fans in positions of power have seized the moment to score cheap optics points and get rid of a rival for whatever team they support, abandoning the pretext of having any sort of morals or decency?
Think about it: freezing Roman OUT of Chelsea would have been easy; even to the point of seizing any funds from the sale and keeping it for the UK instead of sending it to Ukraine for aid. All assets could have been transferred to a conservator to run the basic operations until a sale was pushed through.
But they are specifically attacking the club, not Roman. They are essentially saying “someone of Russian nationality built the success of this team at the expense of my beloved Arsenal/Tottenham/CP etc etc, and now we have an excuse to take all of that away”.
Are you guys really cool with a government being allowed to use power in this way?
This Tory government will not sell an English institution to a foreign buyer imo. Not this high profile anyway. They’ll want their hands in the pieThey don’t seem to care who is ACTUALLY bad or not. Bin Salman is a walking human rights violation, Murdered an American citizen, and is currently, ACTIVELY meeting with Putin to help him… and you let him buy Newcastle.
Isnt Goal incredibly unreliable?
It is totally unnecessary by the government to suffocate the functioning of basic operation. If that's their intention they should have closed the club until new buyer come into it. Till then deduct the points for our scheduled matches to play.Fun but maybe moot question: if the growing narratives are true, and you believe even Romans offer to give all net proceeds from sale to Ukraine are all just smokescreens for his obvious evil agenda… then why are we hearing from the groups that were applying for purchase that Romans demands centered almost exclusively around prospective buyers agreeing to things like continued investment in the academy, the securing of a new stadium, and a dedication to investment in the team? He won’t even be the owner anymore.
OR, is it more likely that opposing team fans in positions of power have seized the moment to score cheap optics points and get rid of a rival for whatever team they support, abandoning the pretext of having any sort of morals or decency?
Think about it: freezing Roman OUT of Chelsea would have been easy; even to the point of seizing any funds from the sale and keeping it for the UK instead of sending it to Ukraine for aid. All assets could have been transferred to a conservator to run the basic operations until a sale was pushed through.
But they are specifically attacking the club, not Roman. They are essentially saying “someone of Russian nationality built the success of this team at the expense of my beloved Arsenal/Tottenham/CP etc etc, and now we have an excuse to take all of that away”.
Are you guys really cool with a government being allowed to use power in this way?
Yeah, the government isn’t agreeing to this
It’ll be too controversial and throw up awkward questions. Anyway wasnt there a report saying they didn’t want to be sold to any dubious owners like this? I’m sure Chelsea and the government will have some sort of dialogue hereWhy would they not? Isn't the whole reason they allowed the crown prince himself to buy Newcastle that the Saudis are an ally if the UK? Its been said that bids from politically sensitive regions won't be considered but realistically what can they say to justify rejecting a Saudi bid for the club, given everything we know about the Newcastle ownership and the UK's relationship with Saudi Arabia?
No, if they are going to do this they should suck it up and go full nonsense: just shut the whole team down. Team busses getting stuck because they don’t have a credit card for gas? It’s ridiculous, and an unneeded circus. They found no violations from Roman. Boris said so himself. This is literally happening because of the optics around the moron fans in Stamford Bridge singing. There was no issue until the moment that happened. So just full on punish the fans. Use the seized assets to pay off the remaining year of the staff and players and shut it all down.
Then Boris can go back to the Lux place he bought with Russian money given to him by Oleg Deripaska and rest contently knowing he’s a man of true virtue.
Was denied by one of our journos, i forgot which but he works for the athletic. Said there isnt any sort of "blacklist" as to what bids theyll consider, or who theyll sell toIt’ll be too controversial and throw up awkward questions. Anyway wasnt there a report saying they didn’t want to be sold to any dubious owners like this? I’m sure Chelsea and the government will have some sort of dialogue here
better in recent years, Nizaar does have connections at ChelseaIsnt Goal incredibly unreliable?
I still think the American Boehly and wyss will take over, but if it were the Saudi Media, then how can the EPL allow Newcastle's takeover, and not Saudi Media's. They have no ties to the Saudi govt, they are an entirely private entity. I also think the Saudi Media group already have various businesses currently in the UK, and are already working here so to speak. The head of the takeover lived here for a few yrsWhy would they not? Isn't the whole reason they allowed the crown prince himself to buy Newcastle that the Saudis are an ally if the UK? Its been said that bids from politically sensitive regions won't be considered but realistically what can they say to justify rejecting a Saudi bid for the club, given everything we know about the Newcastle ownership and the UK's relationship with Saudi Arabia?
No, if they are going to do this they should suck it up and go full nonsense: just shut the whole team down. Team busses getting stuck because they don’t have a credit card for gas? It’s ridiculous, and an unneeded circus. They found no violations from Roman. Boris said so himself. This is literally happening because of the optics around the moron fans in Stamford Bridge singing. There was no issue until the moment that happened. So just full on punish the fans. Use the seized assets to pay off the remaining year of the staff and players and shut it all down.
Then Boris can go back to the Lux place he bought with Russian money given to him by Oleg Deripaska and rest contently knowing he’s a man of true virtue.