Involved in all goals, almost never lost the ball under pressure. Had a decent game, one of our better performers tonight, but obviously people calling him shit as after usual. 
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The Falcao playing better than him is the funniest thing on here just now.Involved in all goals, almost never lost the ball under pressure. Had a decent game, one of our better performers tonight, but obviously people calling him shit as after usual.
Its really strange how he refuses to get involved in the game. When he came deeper in the second half he looked much better. He always seems to be running away from the ball this season. I don't know if its a confidence issue(i doubt it since he's always been a very confident player) or if Van Gaal is instructing him to move in behind at every opportunity. When he has the ball at his feet he uses it very effectively so i can't understand why he isn't coming deeper and to get himself in the game.
Falcao is like a new toy to most Utd fans. They just project what they want to see in their interpretation of his performances.
Yeah, that RVP vs Falcao thread is ridiculous. Shocking how many people think Falcao has been better, makes you wonder what the feck are some watching, because it isn't even close.
RvP got the exact same treatment last season though. (i.e. constantly being given the benefit of the doubt despite turning in a number of indifferent performances).
Much better RVP today......
Seemed to realise at half time that nothing was going to happen if he didn't sort it out himself, and got way more involved around halfway than normal. His touch is occasionally still the best in the business, has velcro in those boots.
But, I don't think we'd look any better with him up top by himself. So I don't see how he can fit in a 'best XI' given two strikers is utterly failing us.
But, I don't think we'd look any better with him up top by himself. So I don't see how he can fit in a 'best XI' given two strikers is utterly failing us.
Thought it was a bit odd to sub him on just to take a penalty but it worked I suppose. Would have been nice to see Smalling become the first centre back in premier league history to score a hattrick though.
Did he? Because I'm pretty sure everybody wanted him out, because he doesn't give a feck, he's always injured, etc. Maybe you should recheck the RVP thread from last season, you'd be surprised.
This. It did feel that he got better as the game went on. However, he was playing really deep it seemed.
Not really. When he scored the hattrick against Olympiacos and got injured many Utd fans were calling his injury a "blessing in disguise" and were rather pleased.
Barely any celebration when he scored and it was similar the other week as well, just looks generally unhappy, probably his pride in his performance hurting I imagine.
Very true, they are both dreadful but in their shit & shittier double act Falcao is definitely shittier.
Very true, they are both dreadful but in their shit & shittier double act Falcao is definitely shittier.
When Rojo smacked the ball at him
The second half was one of his better outings for us this season.
Long may it continue. Looks way more decisive and technically proficient.
Long may it continue. Looks way more decisive and technically proficient.
And there's plenty of criticism of Falcao knocking around now as well. But as I remember it, whenever we played badly last season, threads devoted to the usual Cafe whipping boys - Young, Cleverley, Rooney to an extent - would grow by about ten pages, most of it abuse. While RvP, despite often being as bad as any of them, would escape the brunt of it.
With all due respect RvP was never as bad as young and cleverly last season. Now youre just making it up. He scored 18 goals last season despite practically being out for half of it.
RvP has always been the Golden Boy. Even with LvG it would seem. Hopefully he and Falcao are both shipped out in the summer
I'd much rather he play the target man than Falcao because his hold up play is vastly superior, but both are being shafted by the instistence on playing them in the same position.
For all his latter age faults, he's still an incredibly classy and useful player.
For all his latter age faults, he's still an incredibly classy and useful player.
When Rojo smacked the ball at him
He could have killed him!
I can remember a number of games where he was poor to anonymous, and he never seemed to get it half as harshly as some of our other players. It's only over the last two months or so that the criticism has started to become persistent, despite him being way short of his consistent best for nearly two years now.
RvP wasn't that bad today.
He can still actually manipulate the ball, which gives him the edge over Falcao straight away, while he was dropping deep to get involved and was trying to press the opposition.
Give him the lone striker role and get Di Maria and Januzaj closely flanking him.
He can still actually manipulate the ball, which gives him the edge over Falcao straight away, while he was dropping deep to get involved and was trying to press the opposition.
Give him the lone striker role and get Di Maria and Januzaj closely flanking him.
his decent second half doesn't change the fact he is piss poor in almost every game this season and the last one.. he doesn't look like he cares is extremely off the pace. He's got worse statistics than Pele who is only slightly above average striker. He is far from United quality bad sadly he will continue to paly as he licks the van Gaals balls.
No sane manager would give him that much time to prove himself. The fact he is playing in this stupid system with two striekers doesn't help him but than again why do we play that? Ship him out asap and get in some faster better stronger who can do more than basics - hold up play and goal here and there..
Someone like Welbeck with goals. How good is actually Lacazette?
No sane manager would give him that much time to prove himself. The fact he is playing in this stupid system with two striekers doesn't help him but than again why do we play that? Ship him out asap and get in some faster better stronger who can do more than basics - hold up play and goal here and there..
Someone like Welbeck with goals. How good is actually Lacazette?
Boss penalty.
He needs to get involved more though, he was invisible in the first half.
He needs to get involved more though, he was invisible in the first half.
he was okay... seemed to be dropping a lot deeper in the 2nd half.
i want to see wilson start, whether it's alone or with rvp doesn't matter. but we're playing with 10 men having rvp and falcao as strikers.
i want to see wilson start, whether it's alone or with rvp doesn't matter. but we're playing with 10 men having rvp and falcao as strikers.
Thought he played well today, the thing is he's absolutely piss poor when linking up with Falcao. They're on opposite wavelengths to each other a lot of the time.
Invisible first half, much much better in the second.
He plays like he wants to be carried by the team, no drive whatsoever, which is strange from van Persie. He seems very joyless, I thought he'd miss the pen as well.
He plays like he wants to be carried by the team, no drive whatsoever, which is strange from van Persie. He seems very joyless, I thought he'd miss the pen as well.
He's still the monster player he has always been but it's obviously not working with having to play with a strike partner in Falcao who is so off form and offering so little. Van Persie should start every game on his own up top. In the few instances that he gets the ball he still looks as sharp and classy as ever
He didn't play well. Did about the bare minimum.
Saying that, if we're going to persist with two up top it should be a straight-shoot between him and Falcao, and RvP wins out right now easily.
Saying that, if we're going to persist with two up top it should be a straight-shoot between him and Falcao, and RvP wins out right now easily.
I hate the fact that our center forward is totally neutered on counters. I want Rooney to play as a forward for that simple reason alone.
This. Playing him with Falcao is a recipe for disaster but IMO this movement in the box and ability are still top class.
He could've looked a bit happier when he scored the penalty.
He takes this extra touch quite often when he is bringing the ball down, receives it on the chest, then he taps it unnecessarily one time, then he brings it down. A little thing that has bugged me over the last games. It really slows down any opportunity to break quickly.
He really is a great player once he decides to show up in the game. IMO we’re overplaying him. Imagine if he played with that energy for the 30mins or so. I can see him doing that. I don’t see him doing that for the whole game twice a week for sure.
I actually liked that he looked pissed off.
hasn't shown me much of anything all season to keep him around. Just one year older and one year lazier. His only saving grace is that somehow Falcao is actually worse so he goes first, and we have plenty of other positions to fill.
I don't understand what games some of you watch. He's been miles better than Falcao this season, it's not even close. I thought he did well in the 2nd half yesterday and that's something I'd like to see him do a lot more of i.e come deeper rather than stand up top doing nothing.
One thing I did notice however, was that the crowd was starting to get on his back when he took ages to release the ball after holding it up. That's something he needs to improve upon.
One thing I did notice however, was that the crowd was starting to get on his back when he took ages to release the ball after holding it up. That's something he needs to improve upon.
He looked like a man who's been reading the Caf.
Yup, there was some moaning/booing after unnecessary back passes as well, noticed that.
And yea, agree about being better than Falcao. Add to the fact that the latter is just a loanee (hopefully) and Robin actually has done for our club already so it's a nobrainer for me to leave him and get rid of, friendly but useless, Colombian.
I see your point he hasn't had a good season. But who has? In the current system and style I think very few strikers would struggle to play well.
The lack of chances we create is worrying. No wonder RVP and Falcao are struggling to find goals. At the start of the game we had Blind as our only midfielder, with Rooney, Januzaj and Di Maria moving into attack. Blind would then drop into a back 3 which left us with very few passing options. We looked a lot better when Herrera came on.
Once we sort the midfield out, we will start to create more chances and the strikers will bang them in.
I would go with a team like this for our next game:
----------------- De Gea ------------
Valencia-- Smalling-- Rojo-- Shaw
----------Blind------Herrera--------
Januzaj------Rooney------Di Maria
---------------Van Persie--------
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