I think he looked pretty good today, difficult as it is to judge when the overall team performance was so poor. He made good runs and was mostly sharp on the ball. Also thought he was solid in midfield, strange decisions as that was to have him play so deep.
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Rooney tends to score the result affecting penalties.
I'm struggling to think of a pen he's missed where we haven't already been ahead.
He played well, but I'm not sure that it was the right call to let him have a penalty right after he earns his first start in months.
Our best player today despite just coming back from injury. Also didn't look completely useless in midfield (still should have never ended up there).
Wasn't 'very good' as some people are claiming but he wasn't bad either. Should have scored the penalty, he's slowed down a lot looks like age is catching up to him, we desperately need a younger more energetic striker next season, don't mind RVP staying but he should be a bench player.
I didnt mind him taking the penalty tbh. I think Rooney should be off them completely as he never looks confident he will score them despite being a striker.
He played well first half, and was one of our better players up top. So of course, that means he ended up dropping deep into midfield lol.
He played well first half, and was one of our better players up top. So of course, that means he ended up dropping deep into midfield lol.
He looked sharp but doesn't suit the way the others like to play particularly Mata and Herrera with the quick give and go passing. It's frustrating when he kills moves by holding on to it for too long.
Rooney might not always star but he knows how to keep his game simple and adapt to his teammates, he should be first choice striker.
Rooney might not always star but he knows how to keep his game simple and adapt to his teammates, he should be first choice striker.
If he scored that penalty we would've won that game. It was the right time and we really had them reeling.
I agree. We don't really have a great penalty taker, but I'd have preferred Rooney at that point. I know his overall record isn't the best, but the ones he does score are mostly really good penalties, nestled right into the side netting. Impossible to save. He has a great technique most of the time. Just sometimes he forgets how to take them and puts it at perfect height for the keeper to save, like the one against Liverpool.
I just knew RVP was going to miss. At the point in the game with the pressure on, I was hoping Robin would just twat it down the middle.
He did play well.
While I agree he should not have been appointed to take the penalty, the way his penalty was saved, it could have happened to any one. Their goalie had an enormous luck and performance today. I do think RvP has not disappointed after his long absence.
Hard to blame him for today, but then again we are stronger with Rooney as lone striker. These formations without Carrick where Rooney is asked to play various other roles seem to always unbalance our attack.
Van Persie is now a midfielder? *Brenton Rodgers smiley*
feck me, what was that about?
feck me, what was that about?
Never thought I would ever see RVP in central midfield, in saying that, I never thought I would see Phil Jones taking corners. So it's not the biggest shock.
He was good but you must score goals as a striker especially with so many chances like today.
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He thinks this is FIFA.
Strange thing to say when Van Persie played there many times for Arsenal and Holland. Van Persie was only converted into a traditional no. 9 in 2010 before then he was a no.10
Well, I don't think number 10 is a central midfielder. But that's just me.
Bingo. Van Persie didn't have a good game at all. No matter how desperate people were for him to vindicate their pleas to start him. Slowed down our football and, penalty aside, he missed the one good chance in the game (an absolute sitter) I don't think it's a coincidence that his return came in a game where our performance exactly mirrored the slow, labourious football that was such a pain to watch in the earlier parts of the season.
I don't think van Persie played particularly well but putting the performance down to him is crazy considering we played the exact same way last week without him, only worse. I don't think he's in any way responsible for Mata, Fellaini, Herrera or Rooney's drop in form considering the dip started before he came back into the team.
Van Persie today was more dangerous than Rooney in his last few games up front, IMO. Not great at all but decent enough.
You're right. It's not down to him. It's down to the absence of Carrick. That much is painfully obvious. We're a completely different team without him.
I thought Rooney was awful against Everton (he always is) but we looked better against Chelsea, going forwards, than we did yesterday. Which I put down to Rooney being more dynamic than Van Persie. Who just slows everything down, far too much.
Not to mention that any striker who misses a pen and a sitter as obvious as the one Young set up (plus accidentally blocking a certain goal) has to play bloody well to make up for those incidents. And he didn't play bloody well, at all. Can you imagine the hatred on here if Rooney had been involved in those three events?
I think he's 'gone' - little movement from him now, Fellaini held the ball up better. Did OK in MF as it happens, but I won't be nominating RVP, Rooney & Fellaini for the Best Front 3 Thread. Don't think they can play together, really ponderous.
Rooney is our best 'up top' striker, (see results).
Rooney is our best 'up top' striker, (see results).
Wouldn't that be down to Falcao?
I do agree he slows things down an awful lot but there's a lot he offers to offset that. He missed a sitter but that started with him flicking the ball on and making a great run across the front post. We've seen very little of that from Rooney. He managed to work the keeper a few times from half chances too, and he had the most "key passes" in the team today. I don't know exactly how they define that but he played a lovely dinked ball through to Mata and found Fellaini in good positions a number of times. A lot more often than Rooney, that's for sure. He's slowing the game down but he's also picking out the right pass more often, IMO.
I do agree he slows things down an awful lot but there's a lot he offers to offset that. He missed a sitter but that started with him flicking the ball on and making a great run across the front post. We've seen very little of that from Rooney. He managed to work the keeper a few times from half chances too, and he had the most "key passes" in the team today. I don't know exactly how they define that but he played a lovely dinked ball through to Mata and found Fellaini in good positions a number of times. A lot more often than Rooney, that's for sure. He's slowing the game down but he's also picking out the right pass more often, IMO.
I know he missed a feck-tonne of chances, but I thought Van Persie did well considering how long he's been out for.
I still hold out hope that, with a full summer's rest and injury free pre season, we'll see the best of him next season.
I still hold out hope that, with a full summer's rest and injury free pre season, we'll see the best of him next season.
Yes. My bad. Falcao played against Chelsea. Which actually fits what I'm saying. Everton was an aberration but we've looked far better with Rooney up top than either of the other two. Obviously, the Carrick issue muddies the waters.
If the Carrick issue is him not being there, it seems to Traveller everything. Who plays where, how we move the ball about, central defenders bringing it into MF then looking lost, how quickly it gets spread wide to be crossed, movement up the front.....
that agenda thread is you all over.It must really hurt Pongue Mahone that in one game Van Persie showed that he is a better striker and midfielder than Rooney.
He didn't, so I'm sure Pogue will survive.
I also think it's harsh on RVP especially when he does play, it's usually Rooney in midfield behind him. We haven't seen him in a lone striker with a proper midfield, which Rooney had. And let's be honest Rooney was hardly brilliant in any of those six games. Before someone points out the silent domination.
The main concern yesterday was the he was the only player trying to pass the ball forward and find space with his passing. He was the only one that was playing the ball into Fellaini, Herrera's passing was shit yesterday, while the Silent Dominator was hitting his trademark crossfield balls all day.
He was better than Rooney in midfield yesterday, but I think it was because the game suited his more technical approach more. Idealy none of them should be playing there.
I really liked his movement in the first half, he managed to find space even in WBAs congested defense. Looked a little weak on the ball, tho, put him in the gym for the summer and he will be great next year.
He was better than Rooney in midfield yesterday, but I think it was because the game suited his more technical approach more. Idealy none of them should be playing there.
I really liked his movement in the first half, he managed to find space even in WBAs congested defense. Looked a little weak on the ball, tho, put him in the gym for the summer and he will be great next year.
You really have to admire @Pogue Mahone, just like Ronaldo, as obviously ridiculous as his behaviour can be, he just doesn't give a s***. Just like Pogue, as obviously ridiculous as his pro Rooney and anti RvP stance is, he always insists on it irrespective of how both players play and how his posts come across to other posters.
In comparison with the other attacking players, he was good yesterday.
can we not give De Gea a crack at centre mid before he goes?
Credit where it's due, he was getting into the right positions, getting shots on target and making those off-ball runs, other than that, yeah. Can't understand why we'd move him to CM as well, should've either taken him, Rooney or Fellaini off.
You're right on at least one point (unusually for you) I really don't care what anyone thinks about me.
Moving back to discussing football (can you manage that?) I need to make something clear to our resident cretins. I thought Rooney was crap yesterday. I think Van Persie had a better game. Capiche?
That being said, Van Persie wasn't great at all. Marginally better than Rooney vs Everton, at best. Some decent movement, a few good passes but frequently took too many touches and didn't strike the ball cleanly at goal. Now what would have happened if the "sitter" Rooney missed in that game had been as straightforward as Van Persie's chance yesterday and he missed a penalty? I think we all know exactly what comments his thread would be full of. The criticisms would make my posts about Van Persie seem a model of restraint.
Anyhoo. Toodle-pip, gimps. I think I've made my point as clearly as I can.
Typical of you. Didn't expect anything else. Keep on with your predictable posts. Maybe one day you will get bored of your own posts after all ... One can only hope.
Ouch.
It was a shit penalty.
That said, Rooneys missed plenty.
That said, Rooneys missed plenty.
Well if he's not taking them then who is?
Can't be Rooney, he's got one of the worst records of any regular taker going.
Maybe it'll be Phil Jones after his stint on corners.
Can't be Rooney, he's got one of the worst records of any regular taker going.
Maybe it'll be Phil Jones after his stint on corners.
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