Right back....what are the options (if any)?

dutchred said:
Why would we want to sign a 20 year old right back when we have Dalot and Laird. Personally I think Dalot can hold his own next year with Young and Laird as his back up. If we decide to buy a right back we should be looking at an experienced defender who can hold his own till the 2 youngsters find their way.
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That is the conundrum yes, we already have a very good 19 year old and another youngster coming through.....we already have experienced defenders too. If Dalot can hold his own and we have Young and Laird then why do you want us to sign another defender yourself? We have exactly the same kind of problem at right wing too.

Personally it was only about 9 months ago a lot of people were saying Valencia, Young and Shaw just werent good enough for this season and Dalot wasnt enough. Personally thought Shaw was worth another season as didnt get treated well and his ability was always there, please to see him doing well. I think Shaw and Bissaka as our full backs with Dalot and Laird both able to play either flank and battle for places, we would be sorted there for several years and just personal opinion, I think Bissaka can be the best of all four of them over the long run, hence why I would sign him
 
Do we really need one next season? Young has already signed an extension & Dalot looks like a terrific prospect. I would want Dalot to make the position as his own next season with Young as back-up. Imo, a left back to back-up Shaw is far more important than an additional right back. I don't want Young to back up Shaw as all our left wing options - Martial, Rashford & Sanchez - like to cut inside. With Young being right footed, it's not ideal to start him on the left with those guys in front of him.
 
I would only sign a right back if Ole thinks Dalot can do a job further up field, otherwise I would give him a chance to make that position his. Would rather spend the money on getting 2 top class midfielders to pair with Pogba and a center half to replace Bailly and Rojo. Also finally addressing the right wing would be great.
 
Wan-Bissaka would be a lovely choice to our right back.
Ashley Young probably our best right back of the season, but i believe next season he will not achieve our standards if we permanently Ole as our manager.
 
Seeiing how Dalot will be one for the future, I'll opt for Meunier.

Doubt PSG will sell us anyone though.
 
i want a RW, a CB and a CM before a RB.

i think we will be okay with Dalot/Young and Shaw/Dalot/Young as our fullbacks for one more season. would not mind a veteran experienced cheap short term signing though.
 
I still think Wan-Bissaka is the right choice. Let him and Dalot push each other next season. Have Young and Shaw at LB. The season after that, bring in someone to push Luke Shaw (whether that be internal or external).

Fullback is such an important role in modern football and so intensive, we need 2 dedicated specialists for each position who can push each other in training and maintain the highest standard. There will be more than enough games to go around. If we push for both cups and get into the knockout stages of Europe, typically we'll play about 60 matches per season.
 
Devil may care said:
The only one we are being linked with is Wan-Bissaka, which worries me.
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If we get Sancho as well, I wouldn't mind to be honest. We still have Dalot and with Wan-Bissaka we could replicate what Chelsea did with Azpilicueta and Hazard a couple years ago. Ideally I want more from a full-back offensively, but maybe they are projecting him to improve in certain areas.
 
I think Ben Wissaka is the obvious choice if he's as strong defensively as people have been saying on here. [I've not watched him much]

It would give us the option of either him or Dalot depending on if our right flank is vulnerable or mainly being used to attack, and in super difficult games if we're being torn apart there we could even push Dalot up to the right wing and use them both for extra cover.
 
bucky said:
If we get Sancho as well, I wouldn't mind to be honest. We still have Dalot and with Wan-Bissaka we could replicate what Chelsea did with Azpilicueta and Hazard a couple years ago. Ideally I want more from a full-back offensively, but maybe they are projecting him to improve in certain areas.
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I'm of the view that players like Dalot and Wan-Bissaka need a lot of game time to progress because they are developing, and I don't believe you can develop two kids in the same position at once. I've also gone off the idea of Sancho for now as I think this team is taking shape in a way that isn't the best fit for him.
 
Meunier, 28 and his contract ends in 2020. Gives Dalot the time to develop before eventually taking over plus he's a United fan.
 
Devil may care said:
I'm of the view that players like Dalot and Wan-Bissaka need a lot of game time to progress because they are developing, and I don't believe you can develop two kids in the same position at once. I've also gone off the idea of Sancho for now as I think this team is taking shape in a way that isn't the best fit for him.
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They would get more than enough games, with Valencia and Darmian out of the picture and Young having a reduced role. Sancho can play centrally. I'm fairly certain of that.
 
From what I have seen so far Dalot is not yet ready for RB,his positioning is suspect ,he's unlikely to be ready next year .

Aaron Was Bissaka is great, but signing him hinder Dalot and Laird's development.

We should sign Munier (or someone of similar age and talent profile), Dalot and Laird can develop learning from the person, in circa two years time they can take over from the person .
 
bucky said:
They would get more than enough games, with Valencia and Darmian out of the picture and Young having a reduced role. Sancho can play centrally. I'm fairly certain of that.
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I honestly don't think it's feasible to develop them both at the same time and despite his hype Wan-Bissaka isn't the finished article, there's no good in rotating them in and out all of the time as they can't find form like that and only with a consistent run of games will they progress. To me we are a team with holes to fill and paying £50M+ for a player who is pretty much the defensive version of the player we already have who still needs developing himself is a waste of money, we need an older bridge player for Dalot IMO. I've seen Sancho play centrally for Dortmund, personally I don't think he looks great there, he's not suited to it like a Dybala or Fekir or if we are talking age brackets, Joao Felix, he's primarily a winger who can float a bit.
 
Devil may care said:
I honestly don't think it's feasible to develop them both at the same time and despite his hype Wan-Bissaka isn't the finished article, there's no good in rotating them in and out all of the time as they can't find form like that and only with a consistent run of games will they progress. To me we are a team with holes to fill and paying £50M+ for a player who is pretty much the defensive version of the player we already have who still needs developing himself is a waste of money, we need an older bridge player for Dalot IMO. I've seen Sancho play centrally for Dortmund, personally I don't think he looks great there, he's not suited to it like a Dybala or Fekir or if we are talking age brackets, Joao Felix, he's primarily a winger who can float a bit.
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What if we can't get Meunier, which was likely before we knocked PSG out and is even more likely, since we've done it?
 
bucky said:
What if we can't get Meunier, which was likely before we knocked PSG out and is even more likely, since we've done it?
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You think they'd be so petty to not sell him to us because we beat them? I mean if they have a gripe over the loss it should be with their players lack of spine or they can blame the VAR, to not sell a player who has a year left on his deal and who isn't starting regular would be so silly, however if that were the case I'd maybe go for that Lala guy that was mentioned in here or bring Rafael back on a free as to me we only need a short term option as I fully believe Dalot can become the boss of that flank for us and then we've got Laird coming through who manty Academy watchers believe is as nailed on as Greenwood to make it here so IMO it's all gravy at RB long term, we just need a bridge option who is better than Young.
 
Devil may care said:
You think they'd be so petty to not sell him to us because we beat them? I mean if they have a gripe over the loss it should be with their players lack of spine or they can blame the VAR, to not sell a player who has a year left on his deal and who isn't starting regular would be so silly, however if that were the case I'd maybe go for that Lala guy that was mentioned in here or bring Rafael back on a free as to me we only need a short term option as I fully believe Dalot can become the boss of that flank for us and then we've got Laird coming through who manty Academy watchers believe is as nailed on as Greenwood to make it here so IMO it's all gravy at RB long term, we just need a bridge option who is better than Young.
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Considering their reactions and that they went after Neymar following Barcelona's inquiry about Verratti, I wouldn't be suprised, if they were as petty as Madrid were, once it was clear that we weren't going to sell them de Gea.

Lala might be a good option, that's true. I don't think there's any point in bringing Rafael back, as much as I would want us to. He's unreliable and quite frankly not better than Young anymore.
 
Ballache said:
Meunier, 28 and his contract ends in 2020. Gives Dalot the time to develop before eventually taking over plus he's a United fan.
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Plus we have Laird and another youth player coming through I think it would be a great choice.
 
bucky said:
Considering their reactions and that they went after Neymar following Barcelona's inquiry about Verratti, I wouldn't be suprised, if they were as petty as Madrid were, once it was clear that we weren't going to sell them de Gea.

Lala might be a good option, that's true. I don't think there's any point in bringing Rafael back, as much as I would want us to. He's unreliable and quite frankly not better than Young anymore.
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They have their FFP issues as well which apparently have been exacerbated by going out of the CL early so they need to sell and I think he's an easy sale, but you could be right and they of course would have other options to sell him to but he has a say in it as well.

You might be right about Rafael, I'm just looking at stop-gaps in the older age range to be honest, if I thought Ole was willing to go into the season with Dalot starting and play him through his mistakes I'd even be fine with that, I just don't want another season of Young playing regularly. It's like with CB, outside of a couple of options I'm not interested in us buying just for the sake of it.
 
Dalot's proved himself for me. He's very good. Wan Bissaka's a good player but whether we actually need him depends on how good in reality ethan Laird is. He's looked good at u18 level but thats not always a good barometer.
 
Wan Bissaka, the end. Dalot and Wan Bissaka would leave us set in that position for the next 15 years.
 
Starting to think we don't need one so much

I think we need left back cover for Shaw more than a new RB. If we buy a first choice RB like AWB what does that say to Dalot? I'm not buying this nonsense about him being a winger.
 
I'd still go with Wan bissaka, who's defensively very very good. Dalot still needs to develop into the finished product and he'll get there no doubt but to pile on the pressure on him so early in his united career might not be great for him.

Not to mention full back is a highly intensive role with high chances of muscle fatigue injuries and we should have two proper RB to help us get through the season.

Young can be back up for shaw next season.
 
Anybody who watches the French league?

Kenny Lala is having a brilliant season
 
We aren’t buying a right-back absolutely no way.

We just signed Dalot last season and he’s going to be brilliant. We aren’t going to buy yet another player for the same position when we have other areas to address.
 
Diogo Dalot is the best under 20 RB in Europe. He doesn't need replaced, he needs to play. With Ole and his coaching staff, Dalot will improve with every match he plays.
 
yo@Kirk said:
Diogo Dalot is the best under 20 RB in Europe. He doesn't need replaced, he needs to play. With Ole and his coaching staff, Dalot will improve with every match he plays.
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Agree, but an injury to Dalot and we are looking at Smashley playing at RB. Also personally I don't think Dalot is ready yet. He will need a year or two to be totally ready to start for United. Ideally we should be looking at a RB who's in his late 20s, who can play at a very high level for 2-3 years at least and then Dalot can take over full time.
And no, signing another RB won't interfere with his development as
1.we play plenty of games a season, he can easily start in the FA Cup or league cup games
2.he can also play as LB or if needed RW which will again ensure playing time

My preference would be Meunier. He'll be 28 by the start of next season, has only one year left on his contract, United fan, good understanding with Lukaku, very good going forward, very tall and will help us in set pieces, experienced. I feel he fits the bill perfectly.

Don't get the point of buying someone young like Bissaka. Also don't get the point of buying some unproven teenager when we already have one who is showing great quality. By the time Meunier is moved on, Liard will be ready, if he's good enough, to either be a starter or a backup to Dalot
 
Dont think we need to sign another young prospect, does anyone rate doherty from wolves, hes in a good age like 28. the otherday saw an interesting rb from atalanta hes dutch, hateboer one to keep an eye
 
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Cheekiey said:
I do, he'd be perfect for us in term of age (27) actual ability and set pieces, He'd be a solid addition
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Yeah that's what I thought too after watching some clips. But youtube videos only tell you so much. Nevertheless his stats are pretty good and read some good reviews about him too somewhere.

I would put more trust on the likes of you who watch him play on a weekly basis!
 
I find it odd that so many people want to promote Greenwood to play right forward rather than buy Sancho yet want to buy a New right back instead of promote Laird ? We’ve got Young and Dalot there already too so there wouldn’t be anywhere near the pressure on Laird as there would be on Greenwood.
 
davidmichael said:
I find it odd that so many people want to promote Greenwood to play right forward rather than buy Sancho yet want to buy a New right back instead of promote Laird ? We’ve got Young and Dalot there already too so there wouldn’t be anywhere near the pressure on Laird as there would be on Greenwood.
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agree totally.
 
davidmichael said:
I find it odd that so many people want to promote Greenwood to play right forward rather than buy Sancho yet want to buy a New right back instead of promote Laird ? We’ve got Young and Dalot there already too so there wouldn’t be anywhere near the pressure on Laird as there would be on Greenwood.
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Dalot is not as shiny as greenwood.

For me rw, cb and cm are all more important than rb. Possibly even lb is more important.
 
tenpoless said:
Seeiing how Dalot will be one for the future, I'll opt for Meunier.

Doubt PSG will sell us anyone though.
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Meunier is entering the final year of his contract and has refused to renew. They will likely sell.
 
davidmichael said:
I find it odd that so many people want to promote Greenwood to play right forward rather than buy Sancho yet want to buy a New right back instead of promote Laird ? We’ve got Young and Dalot there already too so there wouldn’t be anywhere near the pressure on Laird as there would be on Greenwood.
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I find it odd people can’t do math. Darmian and Valencia are out of contract and leaving. We got 3 remaining fullbacks; Shaw, Young and Dalot. That’s 3 players for 2 positions with one being a youngster and the other a 34yo and incidentally these two are the only ones that can play RB. Young is also the cover for LB.

You think we should go into the new season like this? Would you go into a season with 3 CBs only, one being a 34yo ex-CM turned defender and the other a 20yo? What are you, nuts?
 
Ace of Spades said:
I think Young and Dalot are fine as options. Dalot needs time on the pitch, and I think he will start getting better once he gets more settled. You look at Lindelof, and can see that sometimes players need a bit of adjustment period. There are other areas that need to be prioritised, mainly CB, RW and backup LB.
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This.

Between Young and Dalot I think we have that position covered for next season, Dalot should be fazed into the team during the latter months of the season and the start of next and Young can be cover for both Dalot & Shaw.

I too think there are other positions to priorities. CB is the key, as good as the lads next to Lindelof have done not one of them have cemented the spot. I'd expect Ole to let Rojo and Bailly to leave during the summer so we'd have one spot up for grabs for a world class CB.
 
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