Telsim
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I will believe it when I see it. Same as John Murtough. Until then? Nah.
The CEO comes under “100% sporting control” right?Getting the authority to hand pick the CEO is a pretty big deal. Interesting to see how this develops.
It was proper big dick energy.If he goes, I just want to remember him as he lived: telling total strangers in a pub that the Glazers are rock hard.
He’s not being removed, he’s jumping before he’s pushed
Exactly, so in his mind or through various discussions during the takeover talks, one would assume that he feels his job is not safe, so would rather go now “on his own terms” than wait for INEOS to come in and let him goNo reason the Glazers would push him out so clearly Ineos will have a decent amount of power if they are capable of pushing out the CEO and obtaining sporting control
The CEO comes under “100% sporting control” right?
I know I was being sarcastic. This who nonsense about Ratcliffe buying 25% shares and assuming control of the club is getting more and more preposterous.CEO is very much more of a business role than a sporting one. Although obviously they impact the sporting side too especially in terms of appointment etc etc.
So if Ineos are pushing out the Glazers man and getting to put in their man it's a big deal and would be an indication that despite being a 25% sale things will actually be changing quite a bit.
And considering how shite we are any change Is better than none imo
CEO is very much more of a business role than a sporting one. Although obviously they impact the sporting side too especially in terms of appointment etc etc.
So if Ineos are pushing out the Glazers man and getting to put in their man it's a big deal and would be an indication that despite being a 25% sale things will actually be changing quite a bit.
And considering how shite we are any change Is better than none imo
I know I was being sarcastic. This who nonsense about Ratcliffe buying 25% shares and assuming control of the club is getting more and more preposterous.
Good. The man's not good enough another Glazer yes man..
Cleanse the club of all of Woody's pals.
I have no idea how good he is at his job.
Good. The faster the incompetent people like him, Murtough and ten Hag leave, the better for us.
I don't think it makes him necessarily a good CEO for us, but he is just about the only one in our setup that I know for a fact to have been competent and useful in developing the commercial side, which ultimately has been bankrolling a decade of feck ups. Did a stellar job though. I know people who worked under him (also supporters) and they swear by him.Good. I have no idea how good he actually is at his job, but the club isn’t where it should be and isn’t showing clear signs of getting there so I’m perfectly happy going scorched earth and getting rid of everyone who has a part to play in this.
CEO is very much more of a business role than a sporting one. Although obviously they impact the sporting side too especially in terms of appointment etc etc.
So if Ineos are pushing out the Glazers man and getting to put in their man it's a big deal and would be an indication that despite being a 25% sale things will actually be changing quite a bit.
And considering how shite we are any change Is better than none imo
The massive growth in official pot noodle and tractor partnerships in the Woodward era was mainly his doing. So he must have been good at that, considering United were in the doldrums at the time football-wise.I have no idea how good he is at his job.
Exactly, so in his mind or through various discussions during the takeover talks, one would assume that he feels his job is not safe, so would rather go now “on his own terms” than wait for INEOS to come in and let him go
Maybe he cares more about things other than money?That doesn't make sense. If he goes now on "his own terms", he's forfeiting massive wealth of compensation.
If I run a cat punching business, and I hire one of the top cat punching trainers in the world, and he tells me that we should buy twenty Lamborghinis to transport the punched cats to the tar pits and swap out our tailored made cat punching gloves for oven mitts, then I should ignore him. I should be smart enough not to let this guy do anything other than teach people how to punch cats, and leave the other things to people who are already being paid to deal with the other stuff. Anything else would just be a horrible business practice.He brought in ETH and gave him almost everything he wanted...
*Runs and hides in the bushes.
Murtough has no dealings with the football side……Oh no, that would be sooo terrible
I do not doubt it. But as CEO, at the end of the day, he oversees everything and the commercial success should be translated to football success. And he has been useless at that. Should have brought a real DoF and a football structure and move post the God-manager era which we are still stuck on.I don't think it makes him necessarily a good CEO for us, but he is just about the only one in our setup that I know for a fact to have been competent and useful in developing the commercial side, which ultimately has been bankrolling a decade of feck ups. Did a stellar job though. I know people who worked under him (also supporters) and they swear by him.
Started all that pre-Woody.
A “real” DOF. Like Michael Edwards was when originally took over at Liverpool yeah?I do not doubt it. But as CEO, at the end of the day, he oversees everything and the commercial success should be translated to football success. And he has been useless at that. Should have brought a real DoF and a football structure and move post the God-manager era which we are still stuck on.
I don't think it makes him necessarily a good CEO for us, but he is just about the only one in our setup that I know for a fact to have been competent and useful in developing the commercial side, which ultimately has been bankrolling a decade of feck ups. Did a stellar job though. I know people who worked under him (also supporters) and they swear by him.
Started all that pre-Woody.
That's the key point . Ed and Arnold were quite good on financial side of things but they just failed to convert that success to the sporting side. End of the day, we are a football club and what matters is success on the pitch. We will soon reach to a point where the commercial part gets dried up .I do not doubt it. But as CEO, at the end of the day, he oversees everything and the commercial success should be translated to football success. And he has been useless at that. Should have brought a real DoF and a football structure and move post the God-manager era which we are still stuck on.
That’s a bit of a myth though. They were in the middle of the pack when it came to the commercial side - our revenue didn’t increase out of line with any of our peers when you consider we had a massive head start due to SAF. They just maintained (and lost a bit in truth) that lead. Which is acceptable, but nothing to write home about.That's the key point . Ed and Arnold were quite good on financial side of things but they just failed to convert that success to the sporting side. End of the day, we are a football club and what matters is success on the pitch. We will soon reach to a point where the commercial part gets dried up .
Hopefully this true. The guy deserved sacking after the Greenwood situation.
Kurt, you've only just got past the recent incident and community service, why are you saying these things again?If I run a cat punching business, and I hire one of the top cat punching trainers in the world, and he tells me that we should buy twenty Lamborghinis to transport the punched cats to the tar pits and swap out our tailored made cat punching gloves for oven mitts, then I should ignore him. I should be smart enough not to let this guy do anything other than teach people how to punch cats, and leave the other things to people who are already being paid to deal with the other stuff. Anything else would just be a horrible business practice.
Good. The man's not good enough another Glazer yes man..
Maybe he cares more about things other than money?
Lets imagine that for a second ...Get Woodward back.
What’s with this place obsession with Fletcher?If Ratcliffe takes over the football side I think from next season we will have a raft of changes, including the manager. Certainly Arnold and Murtough, maybe Fletcher as well.