No VAR in the Serbia-Ireland game. Such a blessed relief to see offsides flagged promptly and blown up immediately. Every single decision correct so far. Like 99% of offside calls pre-VAR. With none of the dragged out, uncertain and confusing bullshit that seems to accompany most offsides in the PL these days. Football is a simple game. How did we let it get so complicated?
Refs & VAR 2020/2021 Discussion
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Im guessing this was posted before they missed an Ireland pen to put us 2-1 up!?
Can you stop complicating things please ? Jeez...
Premier League action plan to ‘change and improve’ VAR
Improvements on offside, dangerous play and red cards but i honestly feel it's going to be empty promises. Whatever changes they make, you can't apply them with this bunch of jokers in place.
Improvements on offside, dangerous play and red cards but i honestly feel it's going to be empty promises. Whatever changes they make, you can't apply them with this bunch of jokers in place.
Agreed. For me the fundamental problem with VAR is it's given more leeway for these idiots to make judgement calls. This is why I keep saying the solution is to just get rid of slow motion and freeze framing - let a VAR watch at normal speed, if he sees something obviously wrong to the point where it's apparent at normal speed then it should be flagged and corrected. People want VAR to correct egregious mistakes, not to say whether someone's pubic hair might be offside.
When was the last VAR poll on here?
Was it a pen and a card?
https://www.givemesport.com/1669940...ry-maguire-lucky-to-avoid-giving-away-penalty
https://www.givemesport.com/1669940...ry-maguire-lucky-to-avoid-giving-away-penalty
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Slow mo makes it look way worse than it was. Would have been a harsh pen.
What's the pen there? Can't see any contract at all.
Pretty similar to Douglas Luiz on Pogba really, Maguire got away with a couple this season.
You still livid about that one? Ha ha. Luiz was crystal clear contact. I genuinely can't make anything out on this one.
Not hugely, just thought they looked pretty similar. Maguire certainly has arm on Welbeck's shoulder as cross comes in just as Luiz did on Pogba and there was possible if accidental coming together of legs.
Really surprised Mike Dean didn't get sent to the screen to have a look.
Other Pens have often been given this season where minimal contact and player goes down.
Pogba v Villa, Rashford's pen given v Newcastle, Kane pen v Villa, Salah pen given v City just from last few months.
Then you also see Foden get totally taken out recently and nothing given. Don't remember which game.
VAR has totally failed to provide a level playing field. Which is surely the point of it.
Kane, Salah and Rashford should have been booked for diving imo. Why aren't we seeing that if the referee is sent to the screen?
VAR should be scrapped given it doesn't work. I had high hopes it would make football fairer, incredibly naive looking back. TV rights value is all that matters ultimately.
Better to have bad inconsistent ref calls than the same but with the pretence of VAR.
Pogba v Villa, Rashford's pen given v Newcastle, Kane pen v Villa, Salah pen given v City just from last few months.
Then you also see Foden get totally taken out recently and nothing given. Don't remember which game.
VAR has totally failed to provide a level playing field. Which is surely the point of it.
Kane, Salah and Rashford should have been booked for diving imo. Why aren't we seeing that if the referee is sent to the screen?
VAR should be scrapped given it doesn't work. I had high hopes it would make football fairer, incredibly naive looking back. TV rights value is all that matters ultimately.
Better to have bad inconsistent ref calls than the same but with the pretence of VAR.
Mane v Leicester I think last season was a terrible one aswell, simply no excuse to give those decisions with option to watch more replays. At least they sorted out the stupid calls for handball right at the start of the season and that at least know feels like it was pre VAR, some called but many not.
Even as a City fan I just haven't seen anything in the Maguire-Welbeck incident, after numerous replays, that says it's a penalty. Welbeck's already on his way down, Maguire doesn't seem to touch him. We've spent all season, collectively as football fans, complaining about the amount of soft decisions being awarded, so why are we clamouring for one now? Without VAR there would be no fussing about it, just an acceptance that the referee didn't see enough to give the decision (which I also still haven't, after several looks) and that we should all get on with our lives.
I'd put it in the category of 'not proven' - the footage and replays didn't shed enough light on what, if any, contact there was.
I'm sorry but what even is this? 
That ref should be investigated, not even joking.
That and the penalty, dodgy as feck.
That and the penalty, dodgy as feck.
And everyone but United fans were fuming that that was given. So they should be glad this one wasn't given?
I'm sorry but what even is this?
I believe that’s what they would call ‘corruption’ my friend.
What was the penalty incident? I've been watching Liverpool get their asses handed to them by Madrid instead.
I thought UEFA hated City?
I'm sorry but what even is this?
What is the point of having VAR when decisions like that are not pulled?
That might genuinely be one of the worst refereeing decisions I've ever seen... For a myriad of reasons
1. It's not a foul
2. If anything is a foul on Bellingham
3. He blew up early instead of letting it play out and then blowing
4. He did this knowing VAR is in play
5. He booked Bellingham
6. VAR didn't review it as a red card incident for Ederson (which it could have done)
1. It's not a foul
2. If anything is a foul on Bellingham
3. He blew up early instead of letting it play out and then blowing
4. He did this knowing VAR is in play
5. He booked Bellingham
6. VAR didn't review it as a red card incident for Ederson (which it could have done)
Oh my goodness. That is shambolic. City got super lucky.
Summed up perfectly. Frankly outrageous.
One of the worst decisions I've ever seen, bad without VAR... utterly criminal with. Let it play out, then call it fecking back you corrupt cnut.
City are a good side but they have had some ridiculous decisions go their way this season. They have had rules literally bend to give them goals.
Not surprising really. They're used to bending the rules to get what and where they want.
Bang on. The blowing up before he puts it in the net really blew his cover. It’s so bad.
City get decisions no one can explain this season. Quite remarkable
Should have been red for ederson.
Dortmund got robbed.
He should actually never be seen in the CL again after that decision.
Nailed it, one of the worst decisions I’ve ever seen.
I'm in shock with that decision.
I wouldn't usually be big on conspiracy theories but the ref blowing up early is suspicious as feck.
I wouldn't usually be big on conspiracy theories but the ref blowing up early is suspicious as feck.
The penalty call is actually even worse to be fair. Not only that but he watched the replay about 40 times. Was probably thinking to himself “well I’ve been paid by City to throw the match but even I can’t give that without looking corrupt.”
Why a red card for Ederson? He didn’t deny a goal-scoring opportunity?
Agree with points 1 through 5.
There's more? What was that one
He gave a penalty to city about 5/10 mins before the bellingham shocker, for a ‘challenge’ made by Can onto Rodri. Only Can didn’t even touch Rodri who actually handballed it and was already kneeling down. Outrageous call!