Redcafe Top 100 Movies Discussion and Prep

cinc said:
Great list,

I only started to create some rules so far to make sure its not my favourite films, but the ones I think are the best.
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If a film is a good one but you don't like it, will it make your list?
 
cinc said:
Yeah, Citizen Kane will make the list for example for sure.

But I'm speaking about films I love, and are good, but still are not among the best 100.
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I understand some of your favorite films not making it but if I didn't enjoy a film there's no way it's going to make the list. If you don't enjoy the film or learn anything from it then I can't see any point in it from your perspective. Why would it make the list?
 
Snow said:
I understand some of your favorite films not making it but if I didn't enjoy a film there's no way it's going to make the list. If you don't enjoy the film or learn anything from it then I can't see any point in it from your perspective. Why would it make the list?
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A appriciate Citizen Kane a lot. we had a long argument about in the review thread, I wont repeat myself: but I think its one of the most important and best quality films ever made.

Even though I dont think anyone can like it because its a very distant film (but even that is a artistic choice by Welles, which I can understand).
 
Film 4 are about to do their British connection season.



Some great films in the schedule.

Tuesday 15th November, 9pm and Saturday 19th November, 9pm
Four Lions
British Connection: Chris Morris's farce about home-grown British jihadis. Riz Ahmed and Kayvan Novak star. Contains strong, possibly offensive, language and some violent scenes.



Tuesday 15th November, 11pm and Sunday 20th November, 10.50pm
Bronson
British Connection: Tom Hardy stars in this disturbing, stylised biopic recounting the ignoble, incarcerated life of Britain's most violent prisoner. Brutal violence/strong language.




Tuesday 15th November, 12.45am
See Me.
British Connection: Three schoolgirls are stuck in detention with their teacher. All are bored... until something unexpected happens. With Olivia Colman and Sophie Wu.


Tuesday 15th November, 12.55am
1 Day
British Connection: Penny Woolcock's hip hop musical takes an innovative and gritty look at inner city gang culture and gun crime. Strong language/violence/drug use.


Wednesday 16th November, 9pm and Monday 21st November, 9pm
The Bank Job
Jason Statham and Saffron Burrows take us back to London 1971 for a fictionalised account of the tale behind one of the UK's biggest and most mysterious robberies


Wednesday 16th November, 11.10pm
Hunger
Turner Prize-winning artist Steve McQueen directs an account of the IRA hunger strike, with Michael Fassbender as strike leader Bobby Sands.


Wednesday 16th November, 1.20am
Mischief Night
Racial and sexual tensions simmer in this Leeds-set comedy from Penny Woolcock.



Thursday 17th November, 9pm and Wednesday 23rd November, 9pm
Monsters
A cocksure young journalist escorts his employer's daughter through Mexico's 'infected zone', six years after alien life forms have invaded Earth.




Thursday 17th November, 10.50pm
Genova
A family relocates to Italy in the hope of overcoming bereavement. Supernatural tinged drama starring Colin Firth, Catherine Keener and Hope Davis, produced, written, directed by Michael Winterbottom.




Thursday 17th November, 1am
Welcome to Sarajevo
A Michael Winterbottom film about a war correspondent (based on ITN's Michael Nicholson) who promises refuge to a girl orphaned during the siege of Sarajevo.



Friday 18th November, 9pm
This is England
Twelve-year-old Shaun hooks up with a bunch of fun-loving skinheads during the long hot summer of 1983, until the spectre of racism drives the group apart. Shane Meadows' most personal film to date.



Friday 18th November, 11pm
24 Hour Party People
Steve Coogan plays the late Tony Wilson in this entertaining account of Madchester and the rise and fall of the Hacienda and Factory Records.




Friday 18th November, 1.35am
With or Without You
Christopher Eccleston and Dervla Kirwan are an unhappily married Belfast couple in Michael Winterbottom's prickly domestic drama.



Saturday 19th November, 11pm
Dog Soldiers
A fun British horror movie about a bunch of soldiers besieged by slavering werewolves. Trainspotting alumnus Kevin McKidd makes a surprisingly effective action hero.




Saturday 19th November, 1.30am
Enduring Love
Daniel Craig and Samantha Morton star as a London couple haunted by Rhys Ifans in this tale of dangerous obsession based on the novel by Ian McEwan. Roger Michell directs.


Sunday 20th November, 9pm
Franklyn
While a godless vigilante stalks a strange future city where religion is mandatory, a father scours modern London for his vanished son. Starring Eva Green, Ryan Phillippe and Sam Riley.


Sunday 20th November, 12.55am
Vera Drake
Fifties wife and mother Imelda Staunton moonlights from her job as a cleaner by performing illegal abortions for young women. London-set drama from Mike Leigh




Monday 21st November, 11.20pm
The Long Day Closes
Peerlessly evocative, family album cinema. Terence Davies remembers growing up in the magic and mire of post-war Liverpool.



Monday 21st November, 1am
My Beautiful Laundrette
Stephen Frears' witty, intelligent look at multi-ethnic life in Thatcher's Britain. A great piece of 1980s cinema, which launched the career of Daniel Day-Lewis.



Tuesday 22nd November, 9pm
How to Lose Friends and Alienate People
British journalist Sidney Young (Simon Pegg) tries to take New York City by storm and spectacularly fails in this romance-tinged comedy.



Tuesday 22nd November, 11.10pm

Fascinating coming of age story set in the American Deep South. David (Jacob Tierney) is forced to bear the domestic violence of his parents

Read our review of The Neon Bible



Tuesday 22nd November, 1.10am

A panoramic thriller set in Thatcher-era London with a multitude of narratives involving 20 characters who criss-cross each other's paths.

Read our review of Empire State



Daniel Craig and Samantha Morton star as a London couple haunted by Rhys Ifans in this tale of dangerous obsession based on the novel by Ian McEwan. Roger Michell directs.

Read our review of Enduring Love



Wednesday 23rd November, 10.50pm

Gillian Anderson hangs up her Dana Scully power suits to don the corsets and bonnets of early twentieth century New York in this excellent, moving alternative to Merchant Ivory.

Read our review of The House of Mirth



Wednesday 23rd November, 1.45pm

Heroin seeps through the empty lives of the kids in a rural Cotswold village in this quiet, desolate drama by Duane Hopkins.

Read our review of Better Things



Thursday 24th November, 9pm
Nowhere Boy
Sam Taylor Wood's biopic about the young John Lennon and the women who shaped his life, his mother Julia and his aunt Mimi. Starring Aaron Johnson, Kristin Scott Thomas and Anne Marie Duff.


Thursday 24th November, 10.50pm
Shallow Grave
A twisted, funny thriller from director of Trainspotting Danny Boyle. Features Ewan McGregor before he was a megastar and (a lamentably naked) Keith Allen.




Thursday 24th November, 12.35pm
Comrades
The tale of the Tolpuddle Martyrs as recounted by the much-missed Bill Douglas.
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Bronson though a bit up it's own arse has an incredible performance from Tom Hardy.
 
1. The Mirror
2. Werckmeister Harmonies
3. 8½
4. Cinema Paradiso
5. The Seventh Seal
6. Solaris
7. Seven Samurai
8. Stalker
9. The Godfather
10. Wild Strawberries
11. Nostalghia
12. The Godfather: Part II
13. Umberto D.
14. La Dolce Vita
15. Casablanca
16. Red Beard
17. Persona
18. 2001: A Space Odyssey
19. Das Boot
20. Ikiru
21. Network
22. La Strada
23. Once Upon a Time in the West
24. Day For Night
25. Nights of Cabiria
26. That Obscure Object of Desire
27. The Sacrifice
28. Dersu Uzala
29. Scenes from a Marriage
30. Grave of the Fireflies
31. Ivan's Childhood
32. Belle de Jour
33. The Man Who Loved Women
34. Ordet
35. Bicycle Thieves
36. Magnolia
37. Andrei Rublev
38. The Exterminating Angel
39. High and Low
40. The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisi
41. Odd Man Out
42. Monika
43. A Prophet
44. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
45. Small Change
46. The Bad Sleep Well
47. All Quiet on the Western Front
48. Life Is Beautiful
49. Stray Dog
50. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
51. I Vitelloni
52. The Young and the Damned
53. The Fall
54. The Silence
55. The Wages of Fear
56. Rififi
57. Jules and Jim
58. Sanjuro
59. City of God
60. Viridiana
61. The Hidden Fortress
62. Smiles of a Summer Night
63. Throne of Blood
64. Shame
65. Metropolis
66. The Battle of Algiers
67. There Will Be Blood
68. Day of Wrath
69. Rope
70. Viva Zapata!
71. The Big Sleep
72. A Face in the Crowd
73. 5 Centimeters Per Second
74. Drunken Angel
75. Boogie Nights
76. Lilya 4-Ever
77. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
78. Bed & Board
79. Pulp Fiction
80. Kagemusha
81. Judgment at Nuremberg
82. The Shining
83. Blade Runner
84. The Passion of Joan of Arc
85. Glengarry Glen Ross
86. Harvey
87. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
88. True Romance
89. Schindler's List
90. His Girl Friday
91. Radio Days
92. Waltz with Bashir
93. Casino
94. Requiem for a Dream
95. Nosferatu
96. Notorious
97. Yojimbo
98. Oldboy
99. Amélie
100. The Matrix

Quite possibly my final list. It's bloody difficult though. I was struggling where to put which film after the top 30 or so.
 
This is my premilinary list, just in case I forgot to post the final one

1. Dr. Strangelove
2. The Empire Strikes Back
3. Citizen Kane
4. Ran
5. Solaris
6. Clockwork Orange
7. Eraserhead
8. Naked
9. Hana-Bi
10. Fahrenheit 451
11. Stalker
12. Secrets and Lies
13. Seven Samurai
14. Apocalypse Now
15. Brazil
16. The Godfather
17. The Exterminating Angel
18. MASH
19. Valahol Európában (Somewhere in Europe)
20. The Cranes are Flying
21. The Shining
22. Casablanca
23. THX 1138
24. Wings of Desire
25. Blue Velvet
26. No Country for Old Men
27. The Sugarland Express
28. Full Metal Jacket
29. The Seventh Seal
30. Blade Runner
31. Stranger on a Train
32. Belle De Jour
33. The Tin Drum
34. The Nightmare Before Christmas
35. Un Chien Andalou
36. The Exorcist
37. Repo Man
38. Woyzeck (1994, Szász J.)
39. Annie Hall
40. Taxi Driver
41. Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
42. A Pál utcai fiúk (The Boys of Paul Street)
43. Lisbon Story
44. Throne of Blood
45. The Battleship Potemkin
46. Chungking Express
47. Berlin Alexanderplatz
48. Otto e Mezzo (8 1/2)
49. Three Colours trilogy
50. Christiane F.
51. The Bird People in China
52. The City of the Lost Children
53. Dolls
54. Metropolis
55. The Turin Horse
56. In The Mood for Love
57. The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover
58. Naked Lunch
59. Rome, Open City
60. BAADASSSSS!
61. Riff-Raff
62. The Firemen’s Ball
63. The Double Life of Veronique
64. Jules et Jim
65. The Raiders of the Lost Ark
66. Raging Bull
67. Werckmeister-Harmonies
68. Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence
69. The 39 Step
70. The Life of Brian
71. Night on Earth
72. The Lost Highway
73. Down by Law
74. The Searchers
75. The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
76. The Virgin Spring
77. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington
78. The Phantom of Liberty
79. Rear Window
80. Alien
81. A Fistful of Dollars
82. Collateral
83. Greetings
84. The Man Who Would Be King
85. Eléna et les hommes (Elena and Her Men)
86. Boyz 'N The Hood
87. The Stranger
88. Amateur
89. Manhattan
90. Life is Sweet
91. Do The Right Thing
92. Heavenly Creatures
93. Videodrome
94. Days of Heaven
95. Carne Tremula (Live Flesh)
96. Closely Watched Trains
97. A Prairie Home Companion
98. Delicatessen
99. 12 Angry Men
100. A Foreign Affair
 
cinc said:
22 i think.
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Cool. It's hard to find recent good non-English language films unless they get recognition at the Oscars, Cannes etc. I was just wondering what I haven't seen so it would be really cool of you to highlight those movies for me.
 
I'm liking the Kitano love cinc. I want to include one of his film but it's hard to pick out his best, his better films are all kinda on the same level imo.
 
R.Nilsson7 said:
I reckon the final list will cause an outrage from posters who are not part of the poncy obscure film buff gang.
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My list is likely to have 90-95 films in English - Citizen Kane and The Godfather Films are not in the top twenty whilst The Shawshank Redemption will not feature at all.
 
I bette get mine done soon, Citizen Kane (I'm sure it was revolutionary at the time, now it's just boring) won't be in the list, The godfather films will be as will the Shawshank Redemption (bunch of snobs).
 
cinc said:
Yeah, but I think it was Hana-bi where he really found his rhythm. I was also thinking about putting Brothers on it.
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Hana-Bi might have been a bit better than Sonatine, though I can't seperate it and Dolls. Kikujiro was really warm and charming and I liked Kids Return.

Spoony Youngblood said:
Dolls is his best.

And Gambit you're such a gimp.
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Do you reckon your list has changed a bit since last time?
 
Slightly perhaps...I'll spend more time ordering the list this time. Sadly, I've not been able to watch as many films as I'd have liked to've, though.

Yourself?
 
My list...I think, don't feel that satisfied by it though for some reason. Feels a bit disjointed but I can't be arsed changing it anymore. I had to exclude many films that I haven't seen in ages as I couldn't really give them a fair rating.

1. The Mirror
2. The Godfather
3. Ran
4. Apocalypse Now
5. Seven Samurai
6. Blade Runner
7. Metropolis
8. Stalker
9. Come and See
10. Aguirre, The Wrath of God
11. Solyaris
12. Casablanca
13. Once Upon a Time in America
14. The Godfather: Part II
15. 12 Angry Men
16. Ikiru
17. Wild Strawberries
18. Once Upon a Time in the West
19. The Seventh Seal
20. Sunset Boulevard
21. Princess Mononoke
22. In The Mood for Love
23. La Haine
24. The Third Man
25. 2001: A Space Odyssey
26. Bicycle Thieves
27. The Passion of Joan of Arc
28. The Hustler
29. Mullholland Drive
30. Barry Lyndon
31. Network
32. The Shining
33. Hero
34. Infernal Affairs
35. Fallen Angels
36. Chungking Express
37. Cinema Paradiso
38. Oldboy
39. The Lives of Others
40. Vertigo
41. Tokyo Story
42. Spirited Away
43. The Pianist
44. Lawrence of Arabia
45. Days of Heaven
46. The General
47. Strangers on a Train
48. On the Waterfront
49. Breathless
50. La Dolce Vita
51. Ugetsu Monogatari
52. Rashomon
53. Monty Python and the Holy Grail
54. Throne of Blood
55. Sanjuro
56. The Battle of Algiers
57. Abre Los Ojos
58. Cries and Whispers
59. All Quiet on the Western Front
60. Silence of the Lambs
61. The Grapes of Wrath
62. The Maltese Falcon
63. The Hidden Fortress
64. The Big Sleep
65. Dr Strangelove
66. Ghost in the Shell
67. Blue Velvet
68. Le Samourai
69. Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind
70. Goodfellas
71. Dog Day Afternoon
72. Die Hard
73. The Terminator
74. A Streetcar Named Desire
75. The Manchurian Candidate
76. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
77. Modern Times
78. Singin' in the Rain
79. The Wizard of Oz
80. 8½
81. Before Sunrise
82. Schindler's List
83. Miller's Crossing
84. Ivan's Childhood
85. La Grande Illusion
86. Battleship Potemkin
87. Duck Soup
88. Stand By Me
89. North by Northwest
90. Akira
91. Nosferatu (Herzog)
92. It Happened One Night
93. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
94. The Night of the Hunter
95. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
96. Rebecca
97. Picnic at Hanging Rock
98. Y tu mama tambien
99. The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
100. Dolls
 
Zhang's earlier stuff was much better....and Raise the Red Lantern is by far his best film. And yeah I will...once I complete Skyrim.
 
Is it? I'll have to invest in a copy. I'd love Ran and all...but the BR's not all that, well...so I've heard.
 
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