RedCafe Cricket Draft QF- Interval Level vs Donadol

Who will win based on players in their prime, team tactics and balance?


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Went IL in the end, but I really did sit here trying to pick for a while.. Whoever wins this will have a great shot at winning it all.
 
Just a last point that was brought to my attention and something I'd addressed in the last round...my team has very capable leaders like Cronje, Sanga, Vettori and to an extent, Athers and Hooper who possess a ruthless, never-say-die attitude which works brilliantly coupled with the attacking nature of my team overall.

Atherton, Waugh, Anwar and Hooper are a genuinely sexy slip cordon.
 
He also votes for IL. Below is his real PM:

Hey mate, could you forward my vote for the game between IL and Donadol? I am going for IL in this one.

Reasons : I'll start with the areas I think Donadol is superior. I think his batting depth shades it. Hooper and Cronje at 6 and 7 is very solid. But the fact is while these two very extremely solid players and if you are looking to save a game on the fifth day, you cannot ask for more grit, the amount of runs they will add won't make a huge difference if you are putting on a lead. On the other hand, IL has Lehmann and McCullum, Lehmann and Hooper were pretty even more or less, both with their bats and the part time bowling options, with McCullum being someone who can score quick runs. That could be quite useful IMO.

But the reason I would go for IL is his bowling attack. Akram and Saqlain are two of the most naturally talented cricketers to have ever played the game. Saqlain's downfall was pretty steep, but at his pomp he was constantly in the top bracket of spinners with Warne and Kumble. Atherton is a player who has fallen prey to every good pacer of his time A LOT. He is the most dismissed batsman by both McGrath and Ambrose. While Akram got him 4 times in 10 games, not as much as those two, it was still pretty easy for him. Atherton against a quality strike bowler is a dangerous proposition and he is not someone like Sehwag who can take the game away before giving away his wicket cheaply. I think Watson would provide similar fragility at the top, and Donald would get him as well. On the other hand, there is Donald and Vettori, both of whom IMO are inferior to Wasim and Saqlain. I don't see Vettori giving a lot of trouble while on the other hand Saqlain was unplayable at times.

Ponting and Chanderpaul is an excellent middle order to have. Compliment each other excellently and neither of them would be easy to get 9 out of 10 times. The most important thing is Ponting can accelerate the scoring without risking his wicket like few others.

To me the bowling attack of IL is more decisive than Donadol's, which added with his superior middle order changes the game.

I think aldo is spot on here.
 
Just a last point that was brought to my attention and something I'd addressed in the last round...my team has very capable leaders like Cronje, Sanga, Vettori and to an extent, Athers and Hooper who possess a ruthless, never-say-die attitude which works brilliantly coupled with the attacking nature of my team overall.

Atherton, Waugh, Anwar and Hooper are a genuinely sexy slip cordon.

Much as I loved Hooper, I'd struggle to use words like "ruthless and never-say-die" for him. At times, he seemed about to fall asleep while batting and always stuck me as lazy.

Athers as well. Very protective of his wicket but no Hussain when it came to desperation to win. Pretty affable bloke was how he stuck me.

I'll give you Cronje and to a fair extent Sanga and Vettori.
 
Still level and an hour to go. Are we going to be forced to use a tie-breaker? Any of participants still to vote?

Edit: Zen and MJJ but they don't vote every game. Couple of chaps from India normall put a vote in - Sajeev and Varun but given that it's a holiday there, I don't know.

By the way, nm and mightberight need to start putting together their write-ups. We can finish all the Quarters this week that way.
 
feck this is tough...Donadol middle order is very good but on the other side you have akram and saqlain. two of my favourite players.

I dont like IL's opening or his bowlers as cork and gul are not that good to be main choices.

Donaldol batting is very strong and his bowling is not that bat either. Cant see any real weaknesses in his team(aamir for me doesnt count, the kid was destined for greatness).
 
feck this is tough...Donadol middle order is very good but on the other side you have akram and saqlain. two of my favourite players.

I dont like IL's opening or his bowlers as cork and gul are not that good to be main choices.

Donaldol batting is very strong and his bowling is not that bat either. Cant see any real weaknesses in his team(aamir for me doesnt count, the kid was destined for greatness).

I have Chanderpaul and Ponting in my middle order :( Not to mention I actually have more bowlers than him. He has 3

But thanks for the vote MJJ.
 
I have Chanderpaul and Ponting in my middle order :( Not to mention I actually have more bowlers than him. He has 3

But thanks for the vote MJJ.

I dont think there is much between sangakara,waugh and pointing and chanderpaul. peterson gives him the edge imo but this is a very very tight match.
 
Much as I loved Hooper, I'd struggle to use words like "ruthless and never-say-die" for him. At times, he seemed about to fall asleep while batting and always stuck me as lazy.

Athers as well. Very protective of his wicket but no Hussain when it came to desperation to win. Pretty affable bloke was how he stuck me.

I'll give you Cronje and to a fair extent Sanga and Vettori.

Cronje fixed matches to lose
 
I dont think there is much between sangakara,waugh and pointing and chanderpaul. peterson gives him the edge imo but this is a very very tight match.

Exactly. And I have quickies that count. I had thought of Aamir but selected Gul due to less number of matches thing. Cork, Gul are steady bowlers. Akram and Saqlain genuises. Watson, Adams and Lehmann to support them.

He has only 3 that can really count apart from his part timers.
 
:lol: feck this is tough. ok if we are considering the bowlers at their peak I think you would win. Can I change my vote to IL?

I'm sure that can be arranged. But I don't want it to look like I'm influencing you. So please just consider it
 
Cronje fixed matches to lose

Couple of games and like you, I hated him for it after really admiring that South African team but basically the guy was a sore loser.

I don't remember all the details. Did he even suceed in fixing a game? He didn't get enough players involved to manage fixing an entire game from what I recall.

cnut though.
 
Much as I loved Hooper, I'd struggle to use words like "ruthless and never-say-die" for him. At times, he seemed about to fall asleep while batting and always stuck me as lazy.

Athers as well. Very protective of his wicket but no Hussain when it came to desperation to win. Pretty affable bloke was how he stuck me.

I'll give you Cronje and to a fair extent Sanga and Vettori.

I did add them in the 'to an extent' category knowing exactly that about both :)
 
Couple of games and like you, I hated him for it after really admiring that South African team but basically the guy was a sore loser.

I don't remember all the details. Did he even suceed in fixing a game? He didn't get enough players involved to manage fixing an entire game from what I recall.

cnut though.
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Posting from a phone. He held team meetings to get the whole team to fix matches
 
Couple of games and like you, I hated him for it after really admiring that South African team but basically the guy was a sore loser.

I don't remember all the details. Did he even suceed in fixing a game? He didn't get enough players involved to manage fixing an entire game from what I recall.
cnut though.

Think he succeeded in fixing a test match between England and South Africa that was heading to a draw because of the rain. Gave England a low-ish target which they managed to get to. Remember Atherton not celebrating because he felt that something was fishy.
 
Think he succeeded in fixing a test match between England and South Africa that was heading to a draw because of the rain. Gave England a low-ish target which they managed to get to. Remember Atherton not celebrating because he felt that something was fishy.

Ouch! Really? Don't recollect this.
 
Mystifying really. The money wasn't huge (or huge enough to make a real difference to his lifestyle) and involving so many people meant it would get around.

Ruined the game for me for a fair while. Made it impossible to make fun of idiot conspiracy theorists (you know the kind...people who believed India would always be world champions if not for fixing).
 
It was Hussain who was captain and thought Cronje was being a good lad. Atherton caught on something was wrong when the English team was celebrating.
 
Mystifying really. The money wasn't huge (or huge enough to make a real difference to his lifestyle) and involving so many people meant it would get around.

Ruined the game for me for a fair while. Made it impossible to make fun of idiot conspiracy theorists (you know the kind...people who believed India would always be world champions if not for fixing).

The opposite could very well be true.
 
It's tough. I just pretend it never happened and none of those players ever existed. Wouldn't be able to watch a match otherwise.

I'm not one for expecting players to be models of rectitude but if you're not really playing to win, it's basically as good as those wrestling shows and the game should be shut down.
 
Our teams were better than any of the other ones too.

I'd take Donald if I were you, btw. Sanga has to be tempting too, but you don't really need a WK, nor someone at 3. Shame.
 
Two takeaways.

I'm going to do this changing my mind crap at the next round.

Aldo should be stuck in the newbies for all eternity.

I was looking forward to taking Akram. Would've easily had the strongest team in the draft then.