RedCafe Cricket Draft- Aldo vs nm03

[NM]

I think Aldo and I may have to combine batting in order to even have a chance in the next round tbh.

 

[Red-Indian]

Yeah its a tough one. Almost everyone in the next round has atleast one star bowler to get them the wickets while keeping a quality batting anyway

From memory so I might be missing somebody...

Stretch has Steyn
Interval - Akram
Mightberight - Ambrose and Pollock
Crappy - Walsh and now Murali I think
harooney - Warne
Donadol - Donald
I have McGrath and Kumble

You guys can't realy strengthen much from each other unfortunately. For a few like Stretch, the pickup from the losing team fit perfectly into their team addressing its main weakness.

 

[mightberight]

Really could flip a coin. I'm going for nm, as Philander and Rehman's lack of tests with 9 and 17 respectively is far too few to discount in such a close match-up.

 

[crappycraperson]

Yeap.. winner of this one will still have a chance against someone with okish batting but will be an uphill battle all the same.. anyway let's worry about quarters when it happens..

 

[crappycraperson]

5 vs. 7 now

 

[KM]

Going for nm03. Both the batting lineups are good, but nm's bowling lineup is better than Aldo's.

 

[NM]

If I win, do you lads think picking Hughes will make a difference, or should I just beef up my batting anymore.

Also, Ntini is a star for me. 390 wickets at a 28.something average is pretty damn good.

 

[NM]

Looking at RI's list, never mind. None of my bowlers come close to those.

 

[mightberight]

I'd probably go batting looking at those options. And no offence bud but Ntini is pretty run of the mill in this draft, unfortunately.

 

[crappycraperson]

If I win, do you lads think picking Hughes will make a difference, or should I just beef up my batting anymore.

Also, Ntini is a star for me. 390 wickets at a 28.something average is pretty damn good.

He is not in the same class as all the bowlers listed by RI. Two tiers below them actually.

I guess it will come down to Waugh vs Hughes. You will have to make the call yourself. Hughes/Nitini will be a good pair.

 

[NM]

He is not in the same class as all the bowlers listed by RI. Two tiers below them actually.

I guess it will come down to Waugh vs Hughes. You will have to make the call yourself. Hughes/Nitini will be a good pair.

I'd probably go batting looking at those options. And no offence bud but Ntini is pretty run of the mill in this draft, unfortunately.

Looking at RI's list, never mind. None of my bowlers come close to those.

Relax. I did say that after looking at RI's list, he doesn't come close!

 

[Red-Indian]

What is sad is that there's only one bowler in that list who's debuted after 2000. Think about that - we have 3 decades in the draft and even after giving the last decade a 2 year advantage, its only able to provide a single bowler in the top 10 for the draft.

There's 4 from the 80s, 5 from the 90s and 1 from the noughties.

 

[NM]

What is sad is that there's only one bowler in that list who's debuted after 2000. Think about that - we have 3 decades in the draft and even after giving the last decade a 2 year advantage, its only able to provide a single bowler in the top 10 for the draft.

There's 4 from the 80s, 5 from the 90s and 1 from the noughties.

Good bowlers are a dying breed mate. T20s and too many batsman friendly pitches don't help either.

 

[Red-Indian]

Its a known story so I guess i'm not saying anything new but is there anybody people are willing to nominate for greatness in the current breed of bowlers?

I suppose the closest I could get was Donadol's choice of Mohammed Amir but there's so little to go on there. Irfan Pathan seemed destined for greatness when he first broke through and people were calling him Akram's successor. Now he's trying to break through into the ODI team.

 

[NM]

RI that might be a topic for its own thread tbh. You might get more responses that way.

PS. Who do you tink I should take if I win?

 

[Red-Indian]

Hate to say it given how much I admire Waugh but i'd bite the bullet and take Hughes.

Adding a quality batsman to your stellar middle order is neither here nor there. You might give yourself a decent chance if you come up against somebody with a decentish batting and great bowling with your decentish bowling and great batting.

It just seems like sacrilege. Unholy in some way to be dropping Steve Waugh to take Merv Hughes.

 

[NM]

Hate to say it given how much I admire Waugh but i'd bite the bullet and take Hughes.

Adding a quality batsman to your stellar middle order is neither here nor there. You might give yourself a decent chance if you come up against somebody with a decentish batting and great bowling with your decentish bowling and great batting.

It just seems like sacrilege. Unholy in some way to be dropping Steve Waugh to take Merv Hughes.

Yeah, but that gives me 4 Aussies. I'm unsure if I should drop Matthews, play Afridi at 6 and play both Reiffel and Hughes, or swap Hughes with Reiffel.

I'd also feel dirty dropping Waugh..

Get Waugh and its a straight swap with Matthews.

 

[mightberight]

Relax. I did say that after looking at RI's list, he doesn't come close!

good for you, i didnt see your post. Sanctimonious was the right word...

 

[NM]

good for you, i didnt see your post. Sanctimonious was the right word...

Don't know what it means.

Tbh, all I said was Ntini was a great bowler, then saw everybody else's bowlers and said he wasn't in the same class. I don't see what's wrong in that.

 

[Interval]

Its a known story so I guess i'm not saying anything new but is there anybody people are willing to nominate for greatness in the current breed of bowlers?

I suppose the closest I could get was Donadol's choice of Mohammed Amir but there's so little to go on there. Irfan Pathan seemed destined for greatness when he first broke through and people were calling him Akram's successor. Now he's trying to break through into the ODI team.

Its actually a combination of T20 cricket and chance. With the advent of fast scoring, where even in tests, teams score at 4+ runs an over, alot of focus is on line, length, bowlers who can contain. The pure wicket takers are far and few. Some that do exist, can't handle so many games and prefer to quit tests, ala Malinga.

Alot of it has to do with chance. We've seen some tremendously talented bowlers. But they've withered away. I'm thinking likes of Md Asif would've had a tremendous career. Problem is that they don't seem to have the drive to fight. Sooner or later, we'll see a few who will come through.

Just hope that in my lifetime, India produces a fast bowler who is exciting to watch.

 

[Red-Indian]

Pity Aldo. Just one top class bowler could've made a serious difference with your batting line-up.

Congrats nm. Have you made up your mind on who you're picking?

In fact, it would be good if everyone announced their picks in the losing teams before the draw for the next round. I'll go ahead and start in in the main thread.