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your Yankees should help the Jays out to be the hell out of the sucksox.
 
Jacqueline_S said:
your Yankees should help the Jays out to be the hell out of the sucksox.
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Good one, thats genius that is

RED SOX for LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's only one team in NY.......Metz

And the Jays are just shit
 
Swept by the mighty Kansas City Royals

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RedCanadian said:
Don't write off the Jays just yet!!
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Of course i will write them off, they're 7.5 games back


And we're hunting down the Yanksters, 2 games back and they're comin to Fenway tomorrow. Exciting stuff
 
RedUsa said:
Of course i will write them off, they're 7.5 games back


And we're hunting down the Yanksters, 2 games back and they're comin to Fenway tomorrow. Exciting stuff
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didn't you know the curse works? wait until 2090.
 
RedCanadian said:
Don't write off the Jays just yet!!
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hey do you listen to the FAN 590?
Chuck wasn't impressed with JP because he didn't make a move before the transfer deadline.
According to Chuck, AJ should be gone, same with Speier :smirk:
 
Jacqueline_S said:
didn't you know the curse works? wait until 2090.
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The curse is lifted. Its our year again I can feel it, Yankees are terrible

12-2 down against Baltimore. Looks good for the 5 game series I think
 
None of the top teams in the AL East are that loaded. The Yankees have no pitching and a crappy defence. The Red Sox have 2 starters, a closer, and 2 hitters. The Jays are not really ready to compete because they lose too many games against poor teams.

The same thing that happened last season will happen this year. The team that comes out of the AL Central will out pitch whatever team they come up against. The White Sox, Twins, and Tigers all have really deep pitching staffs whereas the Yankees, Red Sox, and Jays have, at best, 2 clutch pitchers.
 
True to an extent but to be honest Beckett, Wakefield and Schilling aint a bad staff when it comes to the crunch playoff time. And throw Lester and Wells in there and it doesn't look bad at all.
 
RedUsa said:
True to an extent but to be honest Beckett, Wakefield and Schilling aint a bad staff when it comes to the crunch playoff time. And throw Lester and Wells in there and it doesn't look bad at all.
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It would be hard to include Wakefield this year, his knuckler has been off all year but then again he has been productive in the post-season before. But Wells is way past it and Lester is a rookie, can never be sure how he would respond in the playoffs.

But even so compare the Sox staff, which is the best in the AL East to the staffs of the top 3 in the Central.

White Sox
Contreras, Garcia, Garland, Buerhle, and Vasquez

Tigers
Bonderman, Verlander, Robertson, Rogers, Miner, & Maroth (who will be off the DL within 2 weeks),

Twins
Santana, Liriano, Radke, & Silva

The teams in the East just can't compete with that.
 
Yanks draw first blood, 12-4. Boston had only 4 runs even with 8 doubles and a homer (only one single). Here's hoping we can use the brooms this weekend.
 
VoetbalWizard said:
redsox are fecking cnuts.....if the redsox and liverpool didn't exist, the world would be a much better place.
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you forgot Shitty
 
VoetbalWizard said:
redsox are fecking cnuts.....if the redsox and liverpool didn't exist, the world would be a much better place.
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Still bitter about 2004? 3-0 up. Choking cocksuckers.
 
Nearco said:
Still bitter about 2004? 3-0 up. Choking cocksuckers.
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Boston feckin Massacre part II. silly cnut.


consider this: for all of Redsox's whinging about resource disparity (kind of like how liverpool used to in the nineties about us)....

1. The yankees and steinbrenner, do not run at exorbidant losses, like chelsea's abramovich. They have mastered the art of making money and steinbrenner re-invests almost every dime back into the team. This is the difference, between yankees and the sox. There are plenty of owners that are FAR richer than steinbrenner. Ted Turner of the braves, Mclane of the astros, etc.....however they view their clubs as money making schemes....such as what the red sox incompetent and liverpool-esque complaining ownership do. They do not plough back all revenues into the team to put the best team they can find. Steinbrenner is a fan and a passionate owner who wants to see his team win. He bought the yankees for 10 million dollars, and with keen business sense made them into a billion dollar team. They were langushing in the 80's and early 90's as a mid division team. The yankees are critisized for the same reason United was in the 90's. Both teams made money through keen business sense, and therefore had the cash to invest the money back into team.

2. The 2004 abberation that was the red sox, actually is the most expensive team ever to win the world series. Note, there have been more expensive yankee payrolls sure...but they haven't won any world series. The 2004 red sox, with a payroll of around 130millino dollars, is the MOST expensive team to win the world series. The sox complaining about the yankees about financial terms is like the pot calling the kettle black. Once again, the sox are excuse makers like livershite.

3. Check out the current team right now that just played last night:

The Yankees had FOUR position players (including DH) out of 9 starters that came through the farm system (youth team if you will)....Jeter, Cano, Posada, Cabrera. FIVE if you include bernie williams pinch hitting.

Including the pitching used tonight, argueably Yankees most important player, Rivera (their closer) was homegorwn. Scott proctor broke into the MLB first with the yankees (though drafted by the dodgers).

Conclusion: 7 out of the 17 players used by the yankees last night were 'youthteam' or homegrown players who got their first chance in the big's with nyy.

MEANWHILE the redsux... only ONE player out of the 11 hitters they had tonight were from their farm system. Two out of theif five pitchers came through their farm system as well.

For all of the whining about yankee payroll (like how united were supposedly dumping stupid money in the late 90's in terms of transfer market), the strenght of the yankees is their homegrown talent. The red sox, meanwhile do not acknowledge this, and like liverpool just complain yet again.

The yankees are a smart and sound business organization that does not rely on a 'sugar daddy' like abramovich. They just wish to win more than any other owners so they invest their OWN money back into the club, whereas john henry and the red sox ownership want to tread the optimal line of profit making and a shit club like the redsox deserve such poor ownership.

Many of those who don' tknow much about baseball, just like those who don't know much about footie, always looked to blame the yankees, and united (for a time being), about not playing on a level economic field. These teams and fans should look at themselves first before spouting off shite.

Red Sox .....shit clubs, shit fans, blind bandwagon support of the mass media (espn, peter gammons) (just like pool after FLUKE CL just like FLUKE world series by the sox).....feckin shambolic entities, both red sox and liverpool.

cheers :D
 
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One thing you didn't mention is the TV money the Yankees receive for being in New York City. It's not their fault and they do play within the rules (no revenue sharing, just some crap labeled a luxury tax). The Yanks do give back to MLB through this luxury tax system, which goes to clubs like the Marlins and Royals who's owners refuse to pay hefty salaries (can't really blame them) and use the luxury tax system to make profits.

I still find it mystifying why everyone talks about the Yankees' payroll when they play within the set rules. But yet not one person ever mentions how MLB loaned Arizona a few million dollars back in 2000/2001. A loan that can be argued allowed Arizona to retain Curt Schilling, a key contributor to the championship win. Without Curt, the D'Backs are not in position to win one post-season series, let alone all three. In my opinion, this is more criminal than any one thing the Yankees organization has ever done.
 
MrMarcello said:
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One thing you didn't mention is the TV money the Yankees receive for being in New York City. It's not their fault and they do play within the rules (no revenue sharing, just some crap labeled a luxury tax). The Yanks do give back to MLB through this luxury tax system, which goes to clubs like the Marlins and Royals who's owners refuse to pay hefty salaries (can't really blame them) and use the luxury tax system to make profits.

I still find it mystifying why everyone talks about the Yankees' payroll when they play within the set rules. But yet not one person ever mentions how MLB loaned Arizona a few million dollars back in 2000/2001. A loan that can be argued allowed Arizona to retain Curt Schilling, a key contributor to the championship win. Without Curt, the D'Backs are not in position to win one post-season series, let alone all three. In my opinion, this is more criminal than any one thing the Yankees organization has ever done.
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while the TV money is significant, the yankees have compeition for say 'x baseball tv dollars' that the city's economy/market has within itself, because the mets are crosstown. the red sox have a baseball monopoly in new england pretty much. It jsut comes down to the fact that the red sox are terrible business wise, the yankees capitalize on their smart business acumen and their proper priorities. to put a class team on the field, not to fill the coffers of steinbrenner.
 
MrMarcello said:
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The Yanks do give back to MLB through this luxury tax system, which goes to clubs like the Marlins and Royals who's owners refuse to pay hefty salaries (can't really blame them) and use the luxury tax system to make profits.
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The "luxury tax" was supposed to even things out a bit by giving the owners in "small markets" spare cash when king George, Terrible Ted, or some other major owner splashed a lot of cash on his players. You mention the Marlins and Royals, but how many other owners (Minnesota's former, Milwaukee, Pittsburgh, et al) merely $hove the money in their own pockets because they have a monopoly on baseball in the area and no incentive to improve the performance on the field or the lives of the fans?
 
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