Reality-Monopoly Draft

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P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26)

harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12)

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. L. Suarez (14)

Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8)

Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23)

Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan

mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. J. Santamaria (19)

2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids 3. P.R. Falcao 4. Z. Ibrahimović 5. P. Shilton

prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. DROPPED (16) 4. C. Tevez (18) 5. R. Donadoni

Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. DROPPED (1) 5. J-P. Papin

Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. DROPPED 5. S. Campbell

Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14) 5. M. Sindelar (22)

RedTiger - 1. C. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. DROPPED 5. F. Redondo

NM - 1. D. Edwards 2. P. Scholes 3. DROPPED 4. John Charles 5. Dani Alves

Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. A. Iniesta (10) 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8)

Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. V. Valdés (1)

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke, Lizarazu, Jimmy Greaves, Mats Hummels, Alessandro Nesta, Oscar Ruggeri

@NM

Dani Alves played for Guardiola and hasn't won the World Cup.

@Enigma_87 @Šjor Bepo

@P-Nut0712 I got tagged at 3 am my time and it's 9 am. Like normal folks I was sleeping
 
Moby said:
Not denying that as I said above, and Davids is in the top 10-15 CMs of all time himself, but you can't really deny those disappointments Juve had despite the team they had, and Davids along with a few others would be held accountable, as he was one of the most important players in the team.

And that's not even Redondo's best CL campaign.
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Im not denying it but you cant hold that against Davids, specially as he was one of the rare players that actually performed in those European defeats....if he played poorly and Juve won it, we wouldnt be having this debate which is a sad thing.
 
Joga Bonito said:
Don't see him complementing Xavi well stylistically tbh, Redondo did like to dictate play and liked to carry the ball and utilise his long-range passing. I can't see him playing the supporting role to Xavi, or at least not as well as Busquets imo.
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Xavi thrived playing along great playmakers. Him and Iniesta both can run the show whilst Busquets also is a DLP on his own. Having great passers alongside him and players on the same wavelength is pretty much having him in his zone.

He'd still be the main playmaker but a late Xavi(not the 2008 one) would be nice fit in terms of covering the zone when Redondo makes a run.

In terms of game mechanics his anchoring positional role and sitting in front of the defence, along with his reading of the game would pretty much be optimal for a possession based team, which is what you're looking at when having both Iniesta and Xavi in the team.

Redondo is pretty versatile and played with different partners in midfield, so he'd adjust pretty fine. He's not the dominant playmaker in a sense that he won't work well with other playmakers in the team IMO.
 
Šjor Bepo said:
Im not denying it but you cant hold that against Davids, specially as he was one of the rare players that actually performed in those European defeats....if he played poorly and Juve won it, we wouldnt be having this debate which is a sad thing.
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Not being able to elevate the team around you, while being at the heart of it, is a valid criticism given there are others who did precisely that. He maybe possibly the greatest physical CM ever, but mentally cannot match some other greats of the game in that position. And that's where the likes of Redondo, Rijkaard, Matthaus and all excel, just never say die.
 
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P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26)

harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12)

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. L. Suarez (14)

Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8)

Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23)

Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan

mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. J. Santamaria (19)

2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids 3. P.R. Falcao 4. Z. Ibrahimović 5. P. Shilton

prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. DROPPED (16) 4. C. Tevez (18) 5. R. Donadoni

Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. DROPPED (1) 5. J-P. Papin

Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. DROPPED 5. S. Campbell

Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14) 5. M. Sindelar (22)

RedTiger - 1. C. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. DROPPED 5. F. Redondo

NM - 1. D. Edwards 2. P. Scholes 3. DROPPED 4. John Charles 5. Dani Alves

Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. DROPPED 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8) 5. Luis Suárez Miramontes (10)

Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. DROPPED 5. G. Bailey

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke, Lizarazu, Jimmy Greaves, Mats Hummels, Alessandro Nesta, Oscar Ruggeri, C. Puyol, V.Valdes, A. Iniesta,

Ecstatic drops Valdes and in comes Bailey

@Edgar Allan Pillow
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Nope. Busquets-Xavi-Iniesta is as perfect as it comes. There are no upgrades to that. Not just in ability, but their innate understanding can't be replaced.
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I'm not saying that it would be better than the actual Barca trio, obviously we saw that and how good it was. But it would be just as brilliant to watch, in fact toss in Scirea at the back while we are at it and give me a bucket to wank into. :drool:
 
@NM yeah I guessed so was just getting bored of the girls bickering :lol:
 
R6 rolls
ROUND 6 ROLLS

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1 P-Nut | 9 | 14
2 harms | 6 | 18
3 Tuppet | 6 | 6
4 oneniltothearsenal | 4 | 12
5 Pat_Mustard | 8 | 16
6 Skizzo | 9 | 18
7 mazhaR13 | 5 | 2
8 2mufc0 | 6 | 12
9 prath92 | 4 | 4
10 Chesterlestreet | 4 | 16
11 Oaencha | 4 | 20
12 Moby | 9 | 10
13 RedTiger | 10 | 11
14 NM | 3 | 4
15 Enigma_87 | 7 | 21
16 Ecstatic | 9 | 19

P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26)

harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12)

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. L. Suarez (14)

Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8)

Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23)

Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan

mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. J. Santamaria (19)

2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids 3. P.R. Falcao 4. Z. Ibrahimović 5. P. Shilton

prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. DROPPED (16) 4. C. Tevez (18) 5. R. Donadoni

Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. DROPPED (1) 5. J-P. Papin

Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. DROPPED 5. S. Campbell

Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14) 5. M. Sindelar (22)

RedTiger - 1. C. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. DROPPED 5. F. Redondo

NM - 1. D. Edwards 2. P. Scholes 3. DROPPED 4. John Charles 5. Dani Alves

Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. DROPPED 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8) 5. Luis Suárez Miramontes (10)

Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. DROPPED 5. G. Bailey

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke, Lizarazu, Jimmy Greaves, Mats Hummels, Alessandro Nesta, Oscar Ruggeri, C. Puyol, V.Valdes, A. Iniesta,
 
antohan said:
With the number of people interested in drafts we definitely should be exploring formats that allow for more participants without completely ruining the flow.
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Well, there is also that I don't see it as a viable option to solve that particular problem. I'm not as outraged as @Moby, heck, I'm not outraged at all but I just don't see the point.
 
Moby said:
Let's have a look at the real issue here for a second.

@RedTiger could have picked Redondo earlier but instead went for Ruggeri?
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Calculated risk - pick Ruggeri, wait for the WC winner drop box, pick Redondo - profit.
 
harms said:
Well, there is also that I don't see it as a viable option to solve that particular problem. I'm not as outraged as @Moby, heck, I'm not outraged at all but I just don't see the point.
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Don't think it will affect the game mechanics much to be honest. Probably couple of players blocked more. EAP can easily put another card in play that would eliminate the same number of players so all in all it's the same.

The only way it will affect it is if anto drops a player that is already picked by another manager, but that I assume won't be counted.
 
RedTiger said:
I'm about to drive to Brighton to see my dying aunt, I'll be back online in 3 hours, any chance @Edgar Allan Pillow could pm me his last 3 drafts of players? I'll be in a hospital and won't be able to do research.
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1. Sorry to hear that
2. EAP isin't online. Will PM you the lists already posted somewhere
 
ROUND 6 ROLLS

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1 P-Nut | 9 | 14
2 harms | 6 | 18
3 Tuppet | 6 | 6
4 oneniltothearsenal | 4 | 12
5 Pat_Mustard | 8 | 16
6 Skizzo | 9 | 18
7 mazhaR13 | 5 | 2
8 2mufc0 | 6 | 12
9 prath92 | 4 | 4
10 Chesterlestreet | 4 | 16
11 Oaencha | 4 | 20
12 Moby | 9 | 10
13 RedTiger | 10 | 11
14 NM | 3 | 4
15 Enigma_87 | 7 | 21
16 Ecstatic | 9 | 19

P-Nut - 1. Ronaldinho (9) 2. D. De Gea (13) 3. Neymar (19) 4. DROPPED 5. A. Sanchez (26)

harms - 1. DROPPED (10) 2. G. Donnarumma (20) 3. L. Figo (1) 4. R. Marquez (7) 5. L. Riva (12)

Tuppet - 1. M. Desailly (2) 2. J. Neeskens (9) 3. DROPPED 4. D. Dzajic (19) 5. L. Suarez (14)

Onenil/ctp - 1. J. Bican (D) 2. DROPPED 3. G. Facchetti (25) 4. H. Stoichkov (4) 5. J. Bozsik (8)

Pat_Mustard - 1. R. Gullit (11) 2. A. Brehme (16) 3. DROPPED 4. P. McGrath (2) 5. Paco Gento (23)

Skizzo - 1. Kaka 2. R. Dasayev 3. G. Souness 4. DROPPED 5. M. Buchan

mazhar13 - 1. D. Law (4) 2. U. Seeler (11) 3. P. Nedvěd (16) 4. DROPPED 5. J. Santamaria (19)

2mufc0 - 1. DROPPED 2. E. Davids 3. P.R. Falcao 4. Z. Ibrahimović 5. P. Shilton

prath92 - 1. M. Ballack (4) 2. T. Henry (10) 3. DROPPED (16) 4. C. Tevez (18) 5. R. Donadoni

Chesterlestreet - 1. J. Masopust (6) 2. R. Baraja (13) 3. E. Cantona (18) 4. DROPPED (1) 5. J-P. Papin

Oaencha - 1. A. Del Piero 2. R. Lewandowski 3. S. Gerrard 4. DROPPED 5. S. Campbell

Moby - 1. D. Drogba (7) 2. DROPPED 3. A.Robben (17) 4. N. Vidic (14) 5. M. Sindelar (22)

RedTiger - 1. C. Seedorf 2. Batistuta 3. J. Stam 4. DROPPED 5. F. Redondo

NM - 1. D. Edwards 2. P. Scholes 3. DROPPED 4. John Charles 5. Dani Alves

Enigma_87/Sjor - 1. DROPPED 2. R. Ferdinand (18) 3. DROPPED (26) 4. G. Mendieta (8) 5. Luis Suárez Miramontes (10)

Ecstatic/MDFC - 1. M. Laudrup (5) 2. Xavi (10) 3. O. Varela (19) 4. DROPPED 5. G. Bailey (1) 6. A. Shevchenko (19)

Block list: Alfredo Di Stéfano, Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Cristiano Ronaldo, Daniel Passarella, Diego Maradona, Elias Figueroa, Eusébio, Ferenc Puskás, Franco Baresi, Franz Beckenbauer, Gaetano Scirea, Garrincha, George Best, Gerd Müller, Johan Cruyff, Lev Yashin, Lionel Messi, Lothar Matthäus, Luis Ronaldo, Marco van Basten, Matthias Sammer, Michel Platini, Paolo Maldini, Pelé, Rivaldo, Roberto Baggio, Romário, Zico, Zinedine Zidane

Dropped list: Frank Rijkaard, Samuel Eto'o, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Laurent Blanc, Philipp Lahm, Paul Breitner, Pietro Vierchowod, Giuseppe Bergomi, Kopke, Lizarazu, Jimmy Greaves, Mats Hummels, Alessandro Nesta, Oscar Ruggeri, C. Puyol, V.Valdes, A. Iniesta, Valdes,
 
RedTiger said:
I'm about to drive to Brighton to see my dying aunt, I'll be back online in 3 hours, any chance @Edgar Allan Pillow could pm me his last 3 drafts of players? I'll be in a hospital and won't be able to do research.
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Condolences mate.

Here's the list:

Tactical Draft:

1. EAP (E. Francescoli) 1. T Müller 2. L. Junior 3. R. Donadoni 4. Gentile5. Montero 6. Hellstrom 7. A. Bennarrivo 8. A. Picchi 9. N. Stiles 10. Andy Cole 11. D. Albertini

International Peak Draft

EAP 1. J. Cruyff 2. Cafu 3. L. Messi 4. J. Masopust 5. B. Schuster 6. U. Seeler 7. O. Ruggeri 8. F. Collovati 9. H.P. Briegel 10. N. Stiles 11. D. Zoff 12. D. Forlan 13. S. Busquets 14. D. Da Guia

Fourth Sheep Draft:

EAP - Louis Moult, Stam, Cheyrou, Sir Bobby Charlton, Gento, Amancio, Kubala, Leo Júnior, Zubizarreta, Dinho, Celestine Babayaro, Förster, Law, Kastendeuch
 
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