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Souness is so bitter!
kidding yerself if you think that result was down to the referee...
Its always the ref when we lose.
Stop talking shite lad.
It's hilarious. What a moron.'The pitch were overgrown to nullify passing football'
Absolutely has to be the thread title. What an excuse.
Away to top 5
Lost to city 5-0
Lost Spurs 4-1
United 2-1
Arsenal 3-3
Chelsea to come
1 pt from 12 conceded 14 goals in 4 games
They were better than us today, they scored two after half an hour or whenever and then let us have the ball for an hour to do nothing with it. We weren't going to score unless it was another gift.
And they also made it 3-0 when Mata was unmarked in the box due to shambolic defending.
They schooled us in the 1st half, some people in here think good defending is a negative in a game of football these days.
Schooled lol.
Assuming this is the same crowd when Jose "schooled" us when Gerrard tripped.
Doesn't the first cancel out the second...?Every time we went to ground he blew
Every time they fouled us he let the game carry on
Still in need of some fixing in midfield and for me this season its been sorely lacking. Not quite consistent when defending and not quite good enough attacking. Think we've missed Lallana most of the season.
Would love to draw them in the CL.
United are absolutely the last team I want us to draw.
They are well-drilled, cynical, and know they can beat us with their anti-football, just like they did today. Especially if the ref is as poor as this one.
Tactically outsmarted, certainly. Have you ever seen Salah as poor as he was today? Our whole attack was blunted in fact. There’s a reason for that.
As a side we will progress more if we learn from such defeats, rather than make fun of the style of football.
Absolutely fuming here. 3 Stonewall penalties not given. The whole of FA and premier league decision makers need to be trialled and enquiry need to be setup.
If it's due to corruption and not just incompetence, how did we get three penalties there when Moyes was "managing" them?
Nuh uh, you're not allowed to analyze. The poster's only aim there was to start every sentence with every time, and he's succeeded at it.Doesn't the first cancel out the second...?
On a positive note VVD is the best signing I think I've ever seen us make, Lukaku got 0 change from him
Probably because he targeted Lovren.
Tactically outsmarted, certainly. Have you ever seen Salah as poor as he was today? Our whole attack was blunted in fact. There’s a reason for that.
As a side we will progress more if we learn from such defeats, rather than make fun of the style of football.
Got to hold your hand up and admit we got outclassed. Learn from this so it doesnt happen again.
You deserve a weeks ban!
Outclassed?
Did you not look at the match stats, no?
Carragher sucking United cock again. None of the penalty shouts were penalties, and United deserved to win. How?
feck off Carragher.
Playing the Sky game again I take it?
4 now??, by the end of the day it will be 17 penallties for them not whisteledDidn't he say Lamela was a clear penno, now he is saying Mane stepped across Fellaini?!?!
4 pretty decent calls for pens, not a single one even remotely close to being given
He said none of them were penalties. How was Lamela a penno and Mane not?
Mourinho is absolutely right with his match assessment, in fairness.
It's done with now, just get on now with the rest of the games.
Small crumb of comfort, the realisation will hit them soon that City are on course to win the league at the Manchester Derby.
We can prattle on about Pawson, Mourinho and bla, bla fecking bla but truth be told we did not create enough.
They controlled us for the whole game and made our defence into absolute amateurs two times in a row.
They were better and are now deservedly ahead of us in the table.
Very hard loss to take - like this, with a whimper, slapped around like children.
When I saw the starting line ups I thought we'd outrun and outpress them into submission, especially with our front three.
Valencia and Young are both 32, and Matic, Smalling, Mata and Sanchez are all pushing 30. Ok, we had Milner, but even at 32 he has more energy and fitness than many players 10 years younger.
The difference today though was not about energy, fitness, or desire, it was about shape. Mourinho knows exactly how to nullify teams and he's done it again, against one of the most potent attacks in Europe.
Dare I say it, but perhaps today was the first time we've missed Coutinho since he left - a big game player, someone who can unlock a packed defence, score a worldie from 25 yards, and turn a game singlehanded.
We can blame the ref, the tactics, or whatever, but they were setup better than us, and their experienced heads kept their discipline and shape for most of the game.
We are still in great form under Klopp, and this is merely a blip on a great journey, no matter how much it hurts losing to Utd and Mourinho.
Keita definitely would've made Lovren more competent in the air and made it harder for Lukaku to make Lovren his bitch.
ffs, the fantasy that they attach to football is hilarious.
Two comebacks and beating Liverpool in the last 2 weeks. There's no United fan not "enjoying the journey" right now.
They need to learn how to lose. Drop all this fantastical moral victory bollocks. They need to decide who their equivalent of Chris Smalling is and tear the cnut to pieces, even when he plays well.
Carragher, what a disappointment you turned out to be. Should be expected, A bluenose 2nd team is always united.
Mourinho just said the were in control in the second half!
Rafa used to say that didn't he when he controlled the opposition
I mean, they pretty much were. Don't think De Gea had a save to make.
The difference in class between the two managers is reflected on the pitch.
Any gobshite on here having a go at us in a way that suggests we're not as good as United or that we're just not good enough needs banning. And I officially offer my services - pass me that ban hammer!
We didn't have a single shot on goal.
Rafa would've said the same.
Today was classic Mourinho. Thats how he wins big games. No point in finding solace in stats.
His record in big games lately is horrendous. He got lucky today.
On another day we get a couple of penalties, VVD scores that header, their winning goal doesn't get deflected in.
I'm happy for those of you who aren't bothered about the result and are able to not let it ruin your weekend.
Me, I'm sick as a dog. fecking gutted we've lost to that shower of shite. Gifted them two goals and then barely mustered a chance to get back into the game. Weekend well and truly ruined for me. feck OFF.
Yer feel the same way. Let's hope Sevilla do the c*nts on Tuesday
Carragher is very weird - this is the same guy that thought Lovren/Calvert-Lewin and VVD/Lamela were penalties.
Must still be an undercover Bluenose? You can tell Souness was at the end of his tether with him there.
4 now??, by the end of the day it will be 17 penallties for them not whisteled
It'll be different once we have Keita next season, he will make a huge difference in these games.
Mourinho is a c*nt. Hope he gets run over by a bus. That'd be ironic.
Noone's getting run over a parked bus mate. Needs to be moving to be run over.
It'll take few wins in a row to shake this foul feeling.
It's not just the loss that is the worst part - it's being completely controlled by them that leaves the very bad taste.
The pundit routine is all about different points of view. Carra has gone full on Sky now and is prepared to say whatever to boost the after match argument. The whole thing about him and Neville is about putting forward two different sides of a partisan argument. It is the televisual version of click bait. Usually both sides are chatting absolute bollocks. The BBC try it but end up with two idiots like Murphy and Jenas agreeing with each other’s inanity.
Souness is a bit less of a modern pundit. One of the best pieces of punditry in recent years was him and Peter Reid discussing Everton’s lack of success in the Derby. A proper discussion with deep insight.
Under? Under what?People still surprised by Carraghers character, same fella signed a bumper new deal the day we nearly went under.
I can't even bear to think of how we'll fare at the likes of Barca or Madrid.
Absolute mess at the back as soon as we face any top attack.
On a positive note VVD is the best signing I think I've ever seen us make, Lukaku got 0 change from him
There is a reason why they are 2nd in the table, 5 points ahead of us, even with us playing some of the best football in Europe.
500 million reasons
This was on us today. Pretty embarrassing to get stuffed like we did --- was more of a 2-0 or 3-1 game (our goal was filthy luck), and we got no favors from dickhead Pawson, but this is on us ---
We got outplayed
We got outcoached
We got outcountered
That's the story. Anything otherwise, does a disservice to our continued improvement.
Just bored with watching how these teams just sit back against us.
And frustrated in how we can't score against said boring teams.
Do we need a striker?
Do we need a midfielder?
We just need the rub of the green more than we do.
Still think 3/4 big player improvements and we win that today. Along with many other games we've lost/drawn.
We aren't there yet. We are missing something in midfield. And is there another VVD clone available?
We are getting there and Keita will be a big addition next season, just hope Can stays.
Slight worried that Lovren keeps getting played though, doesn't seem like Klopp is that worried about him which is worrying.
feck Utd.
feck Pawson.
feck the lot of them.
I look forward to playing Sevilla in the next round of the CL.
fecking gutted. Let's get them in the CL and bum them to death.
Even the extra time was wrong. How can you add on 6 minutes but not even warn the opposition about time wasting ?
We've lost, half the thread is about the referee.
And 25% is about Carra
Today was a big match. They don't come any bigger.
Not one of ours stepped up.
Too early for VVD (where was he on Sanchez' bicycle?), Mo was in Young's pocket and TAA had a mare.
Not feeling CL invincible at the mo'.
replies:Top 4 over for me. Spurs will finish above us because they are the better side. Chelsea will catch us because we r shite against Park the bus sides. Today proved we are no where near yet, sad but true. Klopp and this team have been awful in most of our big games this season. We will win the champs league though!
Oh, there's always one lads.
Are you fishing or serious?
Is this the most idiotic contradictory post of the year?
'Today proved we are no where near but we will win the CL'
We'll be lucky to stay up.
Didn’t you post this a few pages back ??"Pathetic, bus parking twats.
Just glad to have it out of the way to be honest, we know what we're getting there. To have the second most expensive squad in football history and to resort to playing like that at home is just.....wow. That's not a team to worry about, its not a team on the up, its a team playing like Torquay United away at Man City playing for a replay. 3 shots on goal in 90 minutes. 3. Not on target. 3 shots.
Referee as expected. 'Narrative'. I wont say what it really is as it got me a weeks muting after the Spurs game. So yeah, a 'narrative'.
Front three all had an off day at the same time. Meh, it happens. Its not a disaster, its not proof we're not good enough, its not a tactical masterclass from shitcoat, its not proof that United are still a team to be feared, its not proof we need this or that or whatever. It is what it is, and that's a very average side playing like Stoke who have spent enough money to be able to profit from sloppy mistakes. There's no plan, there's no cohesion, there's no style. Its hoping for a mistake and a finish. And fair play, they got it.
You're sitting through that on a weekly basis? Fair fecks to you. That's your cup final, you should rightly celebrate. Because just remember, your team are absolutely fecking dire.
If you wanna have a whinge about the manager or the players, knock yourself out. You'd be a twat to do so."
Didn’t you post this a few pages back ??
Ok, which one of you is this one:
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We've been worse than them for the last 30 years according to them.To be fair to them it must be hard to see a team that’s so much worse than them 5 points clear of you in 2nd